Alas! Poor Jeremy
![Thorpe,_Daily_Mirror_21-11-78[1]](https://annaraccoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Thorpe_Daily_Mirror_21-11-781.jpg)
The Elm House branch of the conspiracy industry may tie-in with contemporary convictions of clandestine satanic abuse rings in the highest echelons of the British establishment, but it also connects the apparently liberal 21st century society with an unwelcome spectre that haunted the 19th and most of the 20th century ‘ruling class’ with the same dread as incest had haunted them in the 18th century. As a commentator on here (Moor, I think) recently pointed out, the ongoing fascination with a residence in which politicians, peers and pop stars had their wicked way with non-consensual pubescent boys – a dubious attempt to invent another ‘house of horrors’ occupying the same neighbourhood as Rillington Place and Cromwell Street – appears to be rooted in a lingering unease with the notion of homosexuality. Of course, the legend of the predatory gay man seeking solace in unsullied flesh has now been reclassified as a predatory paedo; but the gist is the same.
This may seem at odds with a country in which gay marriage is now a legal institution, the gay age of consent is the same as the straight one, and openly gay public figures are commonplace, but it takes far longer than forty-seven years to overturn an opinion of ‘inversion’ that held sway for centuries. If you’re over fifty, it can still be classed as within living memory that a prison sentence could be the consequence of an ill-timed indiscretion; and however competent the aristocracy and establishment may have been at covering their tracks, the fact that they were regularly forced to do so underlines the fear of public exposure, something that could not only lead to a humiliating court case and a spell behind bars, but the effective ending of a career and a permanently blackened character.
Such a fate befell Jeremy Thorpe in 1976 – nine years after the decriminalisation of homosexuality, but a long way from open admission of, and pride in, one’s proclivities, especially amongst the generations born before the war. Thorpe was a charismatic and flamboyant politician who the public took to, regardless of his privileged pedigree, when he was up against the grammar-school usurpers, Heath and Wilson. Elected leader of the Liberal Party in 1967, this dandified toff with the common touch was soon a married man with a young son who survived the near electoral decimation of his party in 1970 before leading them to a whopping six million votes at the February 1974 Crisis Election, one that the first-past-the-post system only rewarded a paltry 14 seats to; but it was enough for PM Ted Heath to dangle the carrot of coalition before an understandably tempted Thorpe. In the end, the Liberals refused to consider the proposition unless the Tories replaced Heath, which they declined to do until a second General Election defeat in October that same year, and Harold Wilson crept back to No.10 with a miniscule majority. Nevertheless, Jeremy Thorpe remained a popular politician who seemed destined to play a part in the future of the nation’s political landscape. But rumours of a kind that could still wreck public figures in the 1970s, ones that had been circulating around Thorpe for several years, abruptly went over-ground in 1976.
Thorpe had been elected MP for North Devon as a bachelor in 1959, but an incident involving a rent-boy in the USA not long after attracted the interest of the FBI, who passed on their suspicions to MI5, resulting in the creation of that most ominous of secret documentation, ‘a file’. Unaware his activities were being monitored, Thorpe allegedly embarked on an affair with a stable groom and part-time model called Norman Scott, one that lasted no longer than a couple of years and wasn’t only conducted in secrecy to avoid ruining Thorpe’s career, but also due to the lawbreaking nature of the relationship at the time. It seemed the classic attraction of a well-connected and wealthy individual to a ‘bit of rough’, the kind of encounters familiar to anyone who frequented the dangerously classless oases that were the London gay drinking dens of the period. But Scott took the end of the affair badly and attempted blackmail, a threat Thorpe – by now a rising star in Westminster – did his best to suppress. Even when an increasingly neurotic Scott took his story to the police, the officer in charge declined to interview Thorpe as though blinded by deference and conscious of not stirring a contentious hornet’s nest. The withholding of fairly concrete evidence on Thorpe’s private life by the secret services and the reluctance of the police to fully investigate Norman Scott’s accusation can in retrospect be seen as a deliberate and discreet attempt to prevent any further sexual scandal involving establishment figures after the damaging revelation of the Cambridge Spies in the late 50s and early 60s, some of whom were homosexual. This connected the apparent degeneracy of homosexuality with the shady world of spies betraying their country in the public perception, and hot on the heels of the Profumo affair, any prosecution of Jeremy Thorpe would have further weakened the public’s diminishing trust in their elected representatives and ‘social betters’.
Norman Scott’s refusal to let the story drop, however, led to extreme measures via the hiring of several incompetent small-time villains to silence him permanently, allegedly by Thorpe and his coterie. An especially unsavoury incident in which Scott’s dog was shot dead by a wannabe hit-man called Andrew Newton was supposed to scare Scott off, but Newton was charged with the killing and firearm possession, leading to a court case that resulted in his imprisonment and brought Thorpe’s apparent involvement with Scott into the public arena. Any hint of a homosexual affair, whether admitted or not, was enough to make Thorpe’s position as Liberal leader untenable, and he resigned in May 1976.
If the drama had ended there, the rise and fall of Jeremy Thorpe’s tenure as a prominent public servant would have been viewed as very much a tragedy of its time, one we could now look back on and ruminate on the injustice of. But when the whole murder plot story hit the headlines in 1978, eventually climaxing in a sensational Old Bailey trial in the summer of 1979, sympathy for Thorpe’s downfall was in short supply. The outrageously biased summary of the judge, one parodied so memorably by Peter Cook on stage the following day, persuaded the jury to find Thorpe not guilty, a verdict viewed by many as the establishment saving the skin of one of its own. But Thorpe’s career was killed by the trial and the verdict. If Thorpe were indeed complicit in the conspiracy to murder Norman Scott, the question arises whether this decision was motivated by the arrogance of a man who regarded himself as untouchable or whether it was brought about by the terror of his sexual tastes becoming common knowledge, the latter something that seems remarkable to most from today’s perspective.
The recent revival of the mythical ‘Dickens Dossier’ as a news story, in tandem with the Elm House soap opera, perhaps vindicates the position of the powers-that-be in keeping a lid on the private life of Jeremy Thorpe. It would seem there is an inherent need amongst some members of the public to believe the worst of the rich and privileged after the scandals of fifty years ago; and a gay subtext is often never far from the surface, something that serves to peel away the supposed liberal consensus of 21st century Britain and reveal a less tolerant and traditional mistrust of anything that deviates from the norm. After all, the longest-running rumours about Jimmy Savile were not that he was a necrophiliac or a posthumous paedophile, but that he was a closet queer.
Jeremy Thorpe’s career would rightly have been ended by such a serious accusation as conspiracy to murder even now, but would he be forced into falling on his sword today simply because a past affair with a member of the same sex had been exposed? We’d like to think not, but one cannot help but wonder how such an affair could be twisted to suit a contemporary agenda. And now he’s dead and gone, of course, anyone seeking to produce a page from the visitor’s book of a certain ‘guest house’ would no longer have to fear any libellous repercussions. Release the hounds.
Petunia Winegum
-
December 8, 2014 at 10:05 am -
Yes, Mea culpa. I am one of those old people born in the 1940s who have to change and understand that two men copulating is just the same as my late heterosexual marriage. I am sure I will learn given time. War is peace. Love is hate. Homosexuality is heterosexual.
-
December 8, 2014 at 10:15 am -
I knew Jeremy as a teenager; his mother was a friend of my mother’s and they came down to our house one Christmas when I was about 14. After they left my Mum asked what I thought and I said “Nice man; a queen of course”. My Mother was rather surprised by my teenage knowledge. As I became a man I could never understand why a 16 year old boy could legally love a girl but not another boy. In my 20s they legalised being gay for over 21s. All ridiculous. Like racism or hating another religious minority. Now I’m in my 70s (just) I’m understanding that our species has very little depth or appreciation of anything other than the superficial. And that great leaders are often full of flaws. Only the ordinary are accepted by the ordinary.
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:19 am -
I recall my mother used to vote Liberal back in the Sixties before the scandal, when asked why I can recall her saying that Jeremy had lovely blue eyes. That’s Democracy for you.
-
December 18, 2014 at 11:39 am -
My grandmother was a stalwart Liberal. In 1970, Jeremy Thorpe’s helicopter touched down at the village cricket field (we lived in that rarity, a Liberal held constituency) and I am told the Great Man shook my hand. Years later, after the “shocking” revelations about Thorpe, my mother asked me whether that fleeting contact was perhaps what had “turned” me! So there was indeed great belief in Jeremy’s powers!
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 10:40 am -
Despite rapidly becoming a straight oldie, I have learnt to accept, indeed almost celebrate, many gay partnerships. What two adult blokes willingly choose to do together is their business. I can never envisage joining them, something in my brain cannot ever regard a fellow man in that way, but that’s my problem, not theirs. If they’re happy, so am I.
I extend the same view to the ladies who engage in mutual pleasures, although with the caveat of sometimes thinking, what a waste.The problem with high-profile people, especially in politics, is that any form of diversion from the most widely acceptable ‘norm’ still leaves them open to blackmail/persuasion, whether that is gay action, drink, drugs or any other behaviour which could become tabloid-fodder. It is that fear of exposure which enables the blackmail and, as long as there are any such behaviours around, there will be various agencies only too willing to exploit them.
What surprises me most is the apparent percentage of people in public life who seem to be so careless or imprudent with exercising their preccadillos – if they’re expecting me to trust them with my vote, I at least expect them to be bright enough to keep their private stuff private. (But I do draw the line at kiddie-fiddling – that’s always wrong in my book).-
December 9, 2014 at 8:09 am -
Surely that’s the point though – why hide things of which there is no need to be ashamed?
I’d rather vote for someone who admits to having used/still uses drugs because they would have an insight into drugs policy and how it doesn’t work, than one who who gives nods and winks about possible past use and who then trips out in public. The same argument went for being gay – if everybody already knew you were gay, then how could you be blackmailed about it. That was one of the strong arguments for “coming out”.
Agree with your last point – consent has to be mutual for everything.
-
December 9, 2014 at 8:14 am -
Agreed, it’s only the feared ignominy of exposure which empowers the threat. If everyone felt able to be open about everything, the problem would go away but, until we are all grown-up enough to handle it all, then their challenge is discretion.
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 10:45 am -
Could it be that ‘the public’, sick & tired of being screwed by politicians who try to impose their rules on every tiny aspect of life, relish opportunities for revenge – irrespective of the politicians’ sexual persuasion?
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:20 am -
Thorpe is of course still alive; which seems to be one good reason why nobody dares speak his name. It seems only be dead or dying politicians that are attracting the ire of the angry majority just now.
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:28 am -
Actually, I think Thorpe ‘popped his clogs’ last week, hence the revival of old matters in the press over the last few days.
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:42 am -
December 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm -
However, Norman Scott is still alive (in Ireland apparently), so libel rules still apply.
-
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:14 am -
“Jimmy Savile was the cover boy for Issue One of Gay News. It’s difficult to imagine Tony Blackburn, Paul Gambaccini or any of the other Radio One DJ’s appearing on such a potentially controversial cover. What would be the implications drawn? Jimmy Savile was of course well over 40 by this time, had no wife or children, so he could do pretty much whatever he liked. He was his own man.”
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/britains-no1-homosexual.html -
December 8, 2014 at 11:23 am -
I think we’re still some way from coming to terms with sexuality, certainly some way from being comfortable with it’s complexity. There isn’t really a neat heterosexual/homosexual split, rather there seems to be a spectrum from wholly hetero to wholly homo, and most people are somewhere near one end or the other. A few are right at the end of the spectrum, and some are nearer the middle – effectively bi-sexual. Some are nearer one end, but born into the body of the other end. Some have a huge drive to exploit or indulge their sexuality, some much less so. About the only thing we’ve got about right is that before puberty, there is no sexuality, so for anything sexual pre-pubescent children are off limits. I’m inclined to think that the early years of sexuality, immediately after puberty, are best off limits too, given the emotional vulnerability of most growing children and teenagers, though that’s not necessarily universal; it’s a much greyer area.
That leaves us still groping (fnarr, fnarr!) around to know how to react to those in positions of authority or in public life cope with and act on their own sexual urges. I suspect that until we’re fairly blase as a society about sexuality in all it’s manifestations, we’ll continue to make moral judgements which are, in hindsight, seen as harsh. It’s sometimes said that it’s not the deed that brings you down, it’s the cover-up; when there’s no need for the cover-up because nobody’s bothered anyway, we’ll be getting somewhere.
-
December 8, 2014 at 12:03 pm -
I’m inclined to think that the early years of sexuality, immediately after puberty, are best off limits too, given the emotional vulnerability of most growing children and teenagers.
I couldn’t agree more strongly Engineer.
There are legions of individuals who think themselves fit to introduce children into the adult world and telling them how they should live their lives usually without having a legitimate locus to so do…..not just sexually …..but as members of society in general …Furedi’s article (referred to in the past on this blog) about people setting themselves up as mediators between children and the world…..arrogating that role in children’s lives to themselves usually without being requested is central to why Society is developing as it is ….and dare I venture why it is so eff’ing confused? Be nice you know if a few more asked children what do they want rather than telling them whats right for them. No sentient creature least of all a child is there to be programmed by another as to what is right
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:34 am -
An interesting analysis of what was a major ‘scandal’ and if the issue is of interest to you Uncle Petunia then you should research the actual trial –whatever one’s perception of what constitutes great lawyering George Carman performed extremely effectively …so effectively that one might speculate whether what actually went on was ever really addressed. The issue of homosexuality doesn’t really interest me greatly notwithstanding that I have been told repeatedly by both sides of the argument that it of such crucial importance to my welfare and the welfare of Society ….I am sure ‘it’ has always been around and will always remain around but a certain discretion as to ones taste in such matters appears wise ….moral prosthelytisers (sp?) do tend to make themselves easy targets for a kicking perhaps because there are no simple answers because the question or questions raised in issues of morality are seemingly unanswerable because of lack of agreement as to what actually is to be achieved. But a possibly contentious observation by me and that is outcomes of the homosexual relationships that I have been aware of (how about Thorpe and his paramour as an example ?) often appear poor from my personal perspective of the meaning of life
But much much more interesting is the point latent in your essay and that is why is it that the persona of the politician is more relevant to the public than policies he or she is advocating and why is it that the public can’t separate the individual and the policy. Surely its the message not the messenger …but Politicians know this (and exploit it fully to their advantage) ….and presumably if the message was THAT important to them they would give up (as many private individuals give up selfish wishes for the welfare of others) anything that might jeopardise the outcome they apparently want so much to help others achieve. But Politicians seem to like public adulation more than any message and so from one perspective deserve all they get …be they homosexual, financially greedy, or otherwise a little suspect in the eyes of the public.-
December 8, 2014 at 1:52 pm -
From what I can gather, the affair with Scott ended some years before Thorpe became Liberal leader and it would seem he’d consciously put ‘all that’ behind him by the time his political profile was at its highest in the early 70s. I’m not aware of any other post-Scott relationships with men he engaged in. In a sense, he perhaps did sacrifice his sexuality in favour of public service, but Scott was the skeleton in his closet who wouldn’t go away and the ramifications of a brief assignation over a decade before came back to haunt and eventually ruin him.
-
December 8, 2014 at 2:27 pm -
In the case of senior politicians, the early-life sexual experiences from which they subsequently ‘moved on’ are used not by the genuinely morally offended, but by political opponents out to get one over them, or remove them from the political game if possible.
Consider more recently accusations of closet homosexuality levelled against William Hague, which forced him to make very personal disclosures about his and his wife’s ability to concieve children; he remained in post, most people couldn’t give a whatsit anyway, but his reputation was somehow tarnished. Did it contribute to his decision to retire from politics earlier than most senior politicians do? There was the case of Chris Bryant, found to be ‘touting his wares’ in a state of semi-undress on a gay dating website, a matter still referred to by politicians and journalists on the right of the political spectrum – Bryant remains in a senior political role. Also, the case of George Osborne and his friendship in his youth with a dominatrix; the matter was plugged by some in the Labour party and the left-leaning press, though most ordinary people probably thought either ‘a plague on all politicians’ houses’ or ‘so what – decades ago’. Again, he survived. Maybe things are getting a bit better.
-
December 8, 2014 at 3:08 pm -
Perhaps that’s a good example of how disconnected politicians and the press are from general opinion. They still seem to believe the public care about such things, when in most cases, we don’t.
-
December 8, 2014 at 3:36 pm -
Max Clifford knew different and Blair’s Labour took full advantage of his pioneering methods of dishing the dirt on the tories. I strongly suspect UKIP are currently riding some kind of similarly confused stalking horse.
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm -
he’d consciously put ‘all that’ behind him by the time his political profile was at its highest in the early 70s.
Actually that is not how I understand George Carman to have run the issue of Thorpe’s homosexuality ……he was more feline than that and perhaps all the more effective for it …..he conceded Thorpe was attracted to men and thereby diffused the issue of homosexuality being central to the case.
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 12:02 pm -
Never felt badly against either gays or lesbians. Midwifery is well populated with these ladies. Always has been for at least the last sixty or eighty years. So has nursing, the army, police. A lot of senior nurses are and were gay. Some carried their coterie around with them, to the job holding discomfort of some incumbent post holders. Lesbianism has never been illegal. A book on the two ladies of Llangollen makes an interesting read about historical female mutual devotion…they were feted by society. So why do we struggle so hard over men with men.?Older lesbian ladies like to court a much younger girl if they can…witnessed this process several times. Our next door male civil partners have a 13 year age gap. They are so helpful and concerned for us two oldies. Now we are infantalising kids up to their nineteenth birthdays. This extends the pastures for the CPS to chew the cud in. That is so odd that when underaged couples freely bonk. At 17 or 18 or 19 the young male adult/child morphs into a so called ‘paedophile’. Looking at a global celeb on TV last night, very hetero, laughing with a mate about their younger days, the easy availabilty of willing females. I did wonder how many were seriously underage? Only Cliff Richard, who is not your standard male, like Savile. Yet he is got at over a report of one alleged very public kiddy fiddle. The randy bonking heteros have, so far been left alone. It is all very very very odd. Oh and when school age gets extended to 18. It should get veeeeeery iiiiinteresting!
-
December 8, 2014 at 12:18 pm -
There’ve been a couple of cases recently where women teachers have been prosecuted for seducing girls. The New Puritans have decided upon a new morality that is based on power relations. This lies at the back of the New Labour sex laws in 2003. Thus the principle was that all underage sex was technically illegal but the CPS would choose only to prosecute where there was a public interest in doing so (mostly older men and younger girls/women. Thus it was that in Rotherham a view was taken that those girls were deemed to be able to “choose”. In the light of those cases such flexibility is clearly at an end. The trouble with the younger generation will really start to bite when instead of them being protected by an age of consent law, they will be faced with having their sexual behaviour dictated by the law. Not so much the Nanny State as the Daddy State…
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 1:46 pm -
* the terror of his sexual tastes becoming common knowledge, the latter something that seems remarkable to most from today’s perspective *
I’m not so sure it is all that remarkable. Hollywood is constantly riven with “stories” of A-List stars staying tightly in the closet, unless being gay somehow suits their screen persona. One of the very peculiar aspects of Savilisation was the attempts to roust up stories about the doyen of the UK Entertainment world, Simon Cowell.
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/deviation.html-
December 8, 2014 at 2:00 pm -
I agree in some circles this remains a curiously potent fear, though it doesn’t seem to be a big deal in politics anymore. Hollywood’s attitude is especially schizophrenic – a community containing some of the most right-on, PC individuals in America, yet whenever a big ‘gay’ part is required in a movie, ‘Philadelphia’ or ‘Milk’ spring to mind, the lead role is always played by a straight star, as though the PR of the old studio system that kept the likes of Rock Hudson heterosexual for the public remains intact.
-
December 8, 2014 at 3:45 pm -
It’s about money. The people who pay at the Box Office care. Never over-estimate the audience is an old Hollywood trope.
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 2:13 pm -
It’s something I was pondering on last night – the current ‘vogue’ for homosexuality in society is very much in tandem with so-called ‘female empowerment’ centered on ‘consumer power’ (the pink pound) and intent on promoting a the fey, feckless sort of mincer just as the end product of ‘feminism’ is insular narcissism, celebrity gossip culture and the empty ‘u ok hun? xxx’/’you’re one beautiful lady xxx’ kind of social network communicating where ultimately nobody has been ‘empowered’ at all and actual self-esteem is a myth.
Having established which species are ‘protected’ in order to override legal precedents, we are about to land on a free-for-all. For sure the straight white male will be ‘chief devil’ but the worm is turning in that everyone regardless of their leanings, colour or gender will be ‘fair game’. The conspiracy industry is founded upon ‘old fashioned’ prejudices anyway so they are never that far away from the surface.
Jeremy Thorpe being dead may well prove the catalyst to spark the return of the old prejudices for their can be doubt whatsoever that the powers-that-be are playing to the Conspiracy Theorists in order to pull the rug from under the feet of all of us.-
December 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm -
Pretty much spot on Chris.
-
December 8, 2014 at 3:40 pm -
In fifteen years the Establishment has moved from ridiculing the News of the World Proles and their Paedo Panics in the street to fully embracing the fever in law and ensuring we are convinced by the Established media that our entire society has been infested with child abusers on an industrial scale and we never even noticed. Who’s fooling who?
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 3:32 pm -
This case is somewhat similar to that of Shrien Dewani.
-
December 8, 2014 at 3:57 pm -
The Dewani case ticked so many boxes – a very attractive but wasted wife, a bi-sexual/gay husband similarly attractive, both dusky and wealthy to boot. Whatever tabloid prejudices we’ve got, they can find a home in this case.
The real tragedy is that such a young lady died brutally and it now seems unlikely that the whole truth will ever be uncovered.-
December 8, 2014 at 7:24 pm -
Based on the judges verdict, we probably do have the whole sorry truth in the case. The prosecution case was a load of crap. It makes you wonder what happens in less high profile cases in South Africa when there is less effective legal representation.
-
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 8:01 pm -
‘…forced into falling on his sword’
I think it was more a case of Norman Scott being forced on to Jeremy Thorpe’s ‘sword’ that set tongues aflutter back in the day…
-
December 9, 2014 at 12:23 am -
Who could ever forget the Sun’s timeless headline relating to this case
“Scott of the Arse Antics”
-
-
December 8, 2014 at 11:22 pm -
And there was me thinking that Mudplugger was an euphemism!
-
December 9, 2014 at 8:16 am -
It may be, if only I understood what a euphemism was.
-
-
December 9, 2014 at 11:46 am -
Don Hale OBE, the investigative journalist awarded an OBE for helping overturn an unsafe conviction on a technicality, remembered a while ago that Barbara Castle had produced a “dossier” relating to VIPs… but that it had been suppressed beneath a flood of D-Notices.
Now that Jeremy Thorpe has just popped his clogs, Hale has remembered that it was – who else? – Thorpe who spoke to him & sent Cyril Smith to try and prise the “dossier” from his fingers.
Hale is rather fond of mentioning his bloody OBE, presumably thinking that it will confer upon him an air of respectability. Strangely, it seems to work, particularly with those who normally believe that the whole OBE-issuing Establishment is up to its neck in filth, and he has been welcomed into the fold.
Anyone less inclined to swallow each & every unlikely tale wouldn’t need long to come to the conclusion that he ought to be given a wide-birth. But Exaro are apparently happy to encourage him.Attempts on his life which never happened, a list of 22 suspects who once cleared of any involvement by the police transmogrified into a “the Ripper did it” tale, the alarm bells are deafening. But he tells them what they want to hear, and so…
https://twitter.com/perryscope21/status/540599422317772801
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1441408/Campaigner-for-Stephen-Downing-admits-to-errors.html-
December 15, 2014 at 10:25 am -
Don Hale is at best a money grubbing mendacious fool. At worst he’s involved in something strange and unsavoury, which I cant quite get the measure of. One thing I do know is that when challenged on twitter, as he was yesterday, to admit his latest headline in the Sunday Star is confused filthy muckraking, he falls silent. The headline claims a sex abuse cult at Bucks House. The text suggested it was nothing of the sort, two unrelated allegations. Yes they are unrelated he admitted when challenged. But he still proudly tweeted the screenshot of that lie, with his name attached as author.
-
-
December 9, 2014 at 12:15 pm -
Indeed the gay ‘subtext’ is always there and evident in the latest claim about a British PM whose name I will not sully. That vile piece of goods David Icke has seized upon it (even though the so-called ‘journalist’ has been hawking it around for 5 years).
That ‘journalist’ Michael James is a fascist member of the German neo-Nazi group Free Forces and is a virulent homophobic , Holocaust denier anti-Semite, Freemason Rothschild hating etc etc.
He is described by his promoters as “patriotic” which should always ring alarm bells which means he (as a Hitler admirer) desires the UK & Germany to return to a pre-1939 German political arena. He has written screeds promoting the Aussie neo -Nazi Frederick Toben and surprisingly once got a piece published in CounterPunch and when I challenged then co-editor in 2004, the respected Alexander Cockburn he admitted it was the only piece they were embarrassed by, it was published while the editors were on holiday but would not pull it from their website as they deemed that would be dishonest.Indeed the current Witch Hunt could be said to have started with the prosecution of Oscar Wilde and is still under way.
-
December 9, 2014 at 1:00 pm -
On the other hand much of the historical press hysteria is being driven by men who have done gay things and now seem to regret it or believe themselves victims of grooming and now want compo or someone to suffer to take away their sins. PIE was an exclusively male homosexual organisation at first, and only expanded to offer heterosexuality after the first year or two of it’s existence. I’m not privy to the membership lists but have seen little evidence that it ever became anything other than the pursuit of pederasty. The recent sucking-in of the man/girl sins of the past almost seems like some method of maintaining equality to mask that it’s really been all about “a gay thing”. The imposition of “Hate Crime” has forced all the haters into disguises. The Establishment seem to be doing a pretty good job of protecting their favourites however and it’s mostly elderly heterosexual men who are being jailed in droves to take away the sins of the world.
-
-
December 11, 2014 at 9:33 pm -
I would just like to say for the record that no relative of mine was ever called Jeremy.
-
December 15, 2014 at 9:42 am -
Came across a copy of last Tuesday’s Daily Mail at work at the weekend. Jeezuz, it really is Necro News writ larger. They even managed to get a picture of Ted Heath into the context. The author called Bloch (Pyscho?) didn’t even try to pretend that they were not simply writing all this salaciously speculative stuff because the blue-eyed boy was dead now so ring the ding-dong lie-bell and let’s celebrate.
It really is grisly stuff. Meirion Jones & Liz McKean seem to really have launched a Journalism every bit as pointlessly gratuitous as Misery Lit is to the Fiction market. Necro News is plainly here to stay. Williams-Thomas must be rubbing himself all over with the innards and gore. Vincent price, where are you, with your phantasmagorical organ.
-
December 15, 2014 at 10:30 am -
Just look at the accounts who pump out Exaro’s stuff. They are vile. If you query them to provide something other than, for instance, a bunch of cops talking squit on an internet forum, you are labelled as a paedophile. They believe anything and promote it all without discrimination.
-
December 15, 2014 at 11:06 am -
The forum, which Exaro is not naming, seems to be a Facebook-group judging by the screenshot on the Sunday People site.
The “heated debate” was started by a forum-member posting about the claims – which are often contradictory – of Chris Fay (again!).
Exaro were handed information by a forum-member which enabled them to “monitor” the “incendiary” & “explosive” revelations.My guess – and it is only a guess – is that the two forum-members are one & the same, a character closely involved in the Fay/Maloney/Express troupe of bad actors.
“Anyone of a sensitive disposition should look away now”, Exaro have the gall to write, typical tabloid fish-hooking of the ghoulish revelers in others’ misery. But there really is nothing from which to avert one’s eyes.
Fay & his cohorts have already had their wicked rubbish published in the press, manipulating a rather vulnerable character to do so, and Exaro had to flatly point out that it was, indeed, a load of nonsense. Which left me scratching my head when they allowed – and even promoted – more Fay-mischief falling from the lips of Zac Goldsmith in Parliament. What was said was untrue, and they know that it was untrue. But they went along with it anyway… at which point any remaining patience I had disappeared.
And here they are again, yet more explosions & bombshells, surging up from the over-flowing stormdrain of Fay’s imagination.
You really have to wonder how much serious investigative journalism has been going on if, firstly, they can dedicate months to monitoring Facebook conversations and, secondly, if the only useful source of information is a disreputable nutter.(To get the gist of the claims you’d have to search for the innumerable internet radio-show appearances by Fay & Maloney, but I wouldn’t recommend it. It really is grade-A bullshit.)
-
-
-
December 18, 2014 at 10:11 am -
AnnaRacoon’s blog article about the machiavellian politics surrounding Jeremy Thorpe and the 1960s political period covers all the bases except one. There is a BIG elephant in the room which no one is talking about because it affects the world view of many nominal Christians who are otherwise trying to give people across society fair do’s. The tacit conspiracy of the Christian Established elite has for centuries undercut true democracy in Britain by favouring only those who affirm its own paradigms. Christian evangelists and agitators have doors opened for them to influential positions in direct juxtaposition to the condemnation and demonisation of non-Christians.
The U.K. Christian handbook reveals that there are over 3,000 different Christian groups set up by a network of Christian agitators to advance their sectarian cause beyond that of the rest of society. In EVERY profession and every trade there are well-financed Christian groups which seek to scope and direct the received opinion in those cliques, and do so highly successfully. Thus Christian psychiatrists who want to discover satanists abusing babies (a primal anti-abortion stance) , diagnose all forms of schizophrenia as ‘possession by the devil’, and outlaw anything other than sex in the missionary position as perversion, constantly press the issue in various ways disguised as, for example, The Christian Association of Psychiatrists.
Every other profession has it’s Christian fifth column working away to establish sectarian paradigms within the supposedly secular principles of that profession. One reason why the mercy of Euthenasia has not been enacted into law is that a network of Christian fundamentalist nurses spy on death-beds and will ruin a doctor’s career if he puts a dying patient out of his/her misery. This has its paralels in the mediaeval method of sending priests into church towers on a Saturday to scan the horizon for chimneys not flowing smoke, which would identify observant Jews and allow them to be presecuted by the Inquisition. There are thousands of little scams like this being used below the radar of the man in the street to affect his life and that of his loved ones.
When we move to our ‘democratic’ process the infiltration is even clearer. Many hundreds of MPs and Lords frequently attend Christian Prayer Breakfasts in the houses of parliament. These Prayer Breakfasts are organised by, amongst others, CARE (Christian Action, Research & Education) a body funded to the tune of millions of pounds which has also set up a lobby in the European Parliament to coalesce the aims of the many Christian Democratic parties in the EEC to massage their sectarian policies through and create what is basically a Christian state.
Thus the fifth column of Christian activists in our democratic process cannot be denied, just as the founding fathers of America were White Anglo Saxon Protestants and continue their sectarian work in the Republican party which is 99% Protestant. These facts are a bitter pill to those nominal Christians who do not see the difference between personally holding a belief and actively working politically to bring about bias but the truth is there, historically, for all to see.
It is not wrong for people to believe in Christianity. It is wrong for unmandated religious agitators to hi-jack our democractic process to force conflict on subjects such as abortion, bio-engineering, whether we should go to war with Islam, and many other areas which most of the population may not agree with.
Those who disagree should read Spiritual Warfare, Politics of the Christian Right by Sara Diamond 0745303749 Pub: Pluto Press, which lays it all out in frightening detail.
The ‘Holy War’ in the middle-east and previously in the Balkans is one result of the conflict between what secular democracy should be doing, and what sectarian democracy has achieved. By pre-building synaptic pathways in the minds of Christian minded politicians who are unconsciously complicit in heading towards a sectarian view, these fifth colums affect and alter decisions made at a crucial level. When the Islamists demand Shariah law they are called ‘Mad Mullahs’, when Christians do it they are following the ten commandments. If the people who were doing it were ‘Commies’ there would be uproar but because they are fundamentalists they are tacitly allowed. No proper analysis of the hidden currents which control history can be made without knowing about the input of Christian evangelists and agitators. The Spanish Civil War was the classic example and of course Hitler sided with adn used the Catholic Church in his pogrom against Jews and Communists.
Here are some links to a fuller background. http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/nwo.htm http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/goodsin.htm http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/norway.htm
Tony Rhodes Winter Solstice 2014.
-
December 19, 2014 at 7:49 pm -
As if to provide us with the most timely independent corroboration of the SAFF conclusions above, we find the following report in the Guardian a day after my first comment was uploaded:
COUNCILS TO BE ALLOWED TO HOLD PRAYER MEETINGS UNDER NEW BILL
National Secular Society accuses bill’s backers of ‘seeking to impose religion by tyranny of the majority’Rowena Mason, political correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 18 December 2014 14.46 GMTLocal councils will once again be allowed to hold prayers during meetings under a government-backed bill that has angered secularists.
The backbench bill, proposed by Tory MP Jake Berry, is being supported by both the Department for Communities and Local Government and the Labour party, after a court ruled in 2012 that council prayers were unlawful as part of a formal meeting.
Penny Mordaunt, a Conservative communities minister, gave her backing to the private member’s bill in the House of Commons this week, saying its provisions “right a wrong decision that was taken by the high court when it ruled that councils had no power to carry on the centuries-old tradition of holding prayers at their meetings”…
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/18/local-councils-pray-meetings-bill
What it will do of course is give pre-emmincence to the needs and demands of Christian evangelists and activists in the local political arena. Just like the regular Prayer Breakfasts in Westminster did for national politics. It all sounds very low-key and reasonble but not all is at it seems. For instance the eminently respectable David Willetts MP who is now Minister for Universities and Science appeared on a made-for-Fundamentalists video two decades ago along with Audrey Harper and Maureen Davies (key victim imposter and main players in the Satan Myth) ‘witnessing’ that Satanic Ritual Abuse actually existed and confirming his planned opposition to it .
Similarly Dame Jill Knight (ex Tory for Edgbaston) chaired a house of commons private committee on Satanic Ritual Child Abuse in 1989 at which fundamentalist speakers presented false SRA cases to an audience of WASPs who believed them. When the SAFF asked her if we could challenge the falsehoods and also contribute to her committees knowledge on the subject she told us to get lost. Because it was a private committee she could choose or refuse anyone she liked.
Then there was the decidedly unwise involvement of Timothy Sainsbury’s wife, a committed Christian, who donated 80,000.00 to a group of fundamentlists Christians try to buy-up ‘Satanic Regalia’ and destroy it.
The list goes on but it is clear that the personal religious beliefs of people in power must influence their decision making in some way and to some degree but which are mostly unseen to many of those who vote for them.
Tony Rhodes,
-
-
December 19, 2014 at 9:38 pm -
Intriguing Tony.
Quote from a statement published by the Manchester Evening News, attributed to one of the complainants at the recent trial of Ray Teret. The woman is said to be 54 years old.
“… I had work, children and bills and life just stopping me from dealing with it. It was only when I did the police video interview it all became really apparent, that he had abused his position and taken advantage of my vulnerability, that he was a child abuser, a paedophile, that he was the devil’s work.”
-
December 20, 2014 at 8:49 am -
Yes I spotted that Moor. Very revealing. Particularly considering that it was the title of Roger Cook’s lamentable and now utterly discredited ‘expose’ of Satanic Ritual Child Abuse in July 1989 (The Devil’s Work).
Full background here: http://tabloidtv.nfshost.com/
Nobody want’s to hear old news but we will keep insisting that the entire recent Elm/Greig/Westminster paedo-scare is simply a recycling of the 1990 Satanic Ritual Abuse Myth in a secular form. The moment this is realised the power of the latest witch-hunters will evaporate, until then we will have to put up with a fifth column of religious nutters in the child-scare-industry. The question needs to be asked Why is Tom Watson and Simon Danczuk revisiting an utterly discredited myth which caused this country to waste millions of pounds of taxpayers money the first time around? Not to mention the destroyed lives of 186 children and their innocent parents.
The idea of ‘counselling’ was INVENTED by Christian evangelists as a modern missionary technique for reorganising victims’ minds when they were at their most vulnerable. It caught on officially because it was offered as a free’ service to govt and police forces countrywide which alleviated the cops from expensive after-incident care. Now it is de-rigeur for any and every victim of crime to be ‘counselled’. In this blatently corrupted process fundamentalist ‘counsellors’ (many of whom go on two day certification courses at Christian outreach centres to get their ‘qualifications’ ) scan for appropriate weaknesses, point-up the work of the devil and sift out vulnerable women who are ripe to be passed on to ‘aligned’ feminerapists in the mental health arena who over time implant false memories of SRA (or Westminster Pedo ) in the patient and then pack them off to a lifetime of carping in the ‘victims-support’ arena plumbed so ably by the despicable tabloid media. It’s brainwashing pure and simple.
One can only surmise as to what influence these people have on the course of policing, particulary when one remembers that many of the cops involved may themselves be active fundamentalists (see the Christian Police Officers’ Association here: http://www.cpauk.net/
and our research on this aspect here: http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/prayercops.htm about the govt giving £10,000 to a establish a Prayer Squad.
Not forgetting of course our celebrated lampoon of the Met’s latest Satan Seminars here: http://www.saff.ukhq.co.uk/winebald.htm )In respect of the Teret trial I also noticed that ‘Cathy’ , one of his accusers and the woman seen bewailing her victimhood during interviews after the trial, is also a ‘counsellor’. So presumably she was ‘counselled’ and then, became a counsellor herself to further expand the gigantic pyramid of victimhood?
Tony
-
{ 48 comments… read them below or add one }