No sex, please – we’re five!
I see that the old idea of teaching young kids all about sex has reared its ugly head again. In this case, they’re talking about teaching five-year-olds the ins and outs of intercourse, ostensibly “to give them the skills and confidence to delay sexual intimacy until they are ready”.
Honestly, I can’t see this making the blindest bit of difference to anything. My father went to a lot of trouble to teach me about the birds and the bees when I was about five, with all sorts of wall charts and diagrams and pretty much everything short of a hard-core porn movie. I suspect that it might have been because I had discovered that my “ding-a-ling” had some other sort of use apart from “making a wee-wee”, although it wasn’t clear what that use might be. I still vaguely remember the discussion, or rather, lecture today.
But it had no real impact, other than making me wonder what kind of people those were, because they looked like they were in a horror movie, you could see their insides. I certainly did not connect it any way, shape or form with my adolescent, wide-eyed games of “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” or “doctors and nurses” or “spin the bottle”*.
I had certainly long since forgotten it completely when, as a teenager I knocked a girl up. The irony of it all was my mother’s outrage, “after all the effort they’d expended teaching me the facts of life”. Unfortunately, as amateur pedagogues, my parents hadn’t divined that the lessons were entirely divorced from my experience. The wall charts and discussions could just as easily have referred to a different species or an astral plane as far as I was concerned – especially at the age of five. They quite simply didn’t mean anything. And when my dad asked if I had any questions, I just said “no” and went outside to play. Even when I was ten or eleven, I’m not sure the technical discussion would have had any more impact.
And I did biology up before to GCSE selection level (blood and dissection held no appeal for me!) I am quite sure that we covered reproduction, because I vaguely remember sniggering with the rest of the class at something vaguely embarrassing. But I just didn’t associate that with what I did and felt and experienced.
Worse still, when you’re an imbecilic teenager and the hormones are coursing through your system, it’s very rare that anything like learning or common sense will intervene in your favour.
I have come to the conclusion that it’s mostly a combination of luck and accident that there are not more pointless teenage pregnancies. And I can’t really see that there’s much that any teacher can do in that awkward, sterile classroom that will change anything for the better. Parents should (and probably) do teach their children as best they can but the little monsters will insist on things like “doctors and nurses” anyway. It’s human.
Personally, I’d rather they focused on things like reading and writing and chasing kids round a track to wear them out. Let them come out of school smarter and with their energies spent on sport and the like and leave them to find the rest out the hard way.
*I was very precocious, sexually, which is why I look so haggard. I’m actually only 23.
- June 19, 2010 at 21:32
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I don’t think 5 is the right age; probably more like 8-10 depending on the
kid (on the early side of that range if they are a younger sibling!). I posted
on the Birds and Bees talk and included a bunch of great books
including:
Usborne: The Facts of Life
Growing Up, It’s A Girl
Thing
The Care and Keeping of You
It’s So Amazing
and for boys
…
What’s Going on Down There
My Body My Self
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- June 18, 2010 at 21:14
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A joke: a mother decides that it is time to tell her children the facts of
life. She sits on the sofa with both of them and a booklet, something probably
called
- June 18, 2010 at 21:11
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My first husband, as a young boy, once came running into his mother
- June 18, 2010 at 21:04
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- June 18, 2010 at 19:45
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I just wish the schools would teach 5 year-olds the three Rs.
That probably was the intended curriculum, but some educationalist misheard
it as three Arses.
- June 18, 2010 at 16:16
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Sarbanes Oxley June 18, 2010 at 10:02 has it bang on the money.
“It’s not the State
- June 18, 2010 at 14:03
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It
- June 19, 2010 at 18:42
- June 19, 2010 at 18:42
- June 18,
2010 at 11:53
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I Google it and all I got was pictures of steamboats and an article from
the Daily Mash?????
- June 18, 2010 at 11:26
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i think 5 might be a bit young…..although i can remember being at school
and we all knew what to do when we were 10 or 11.
the thing is that the mechanics can be explained but not the consequences
of having a baby……….and it isn’t just teenagers……
so many women and indeed couples have children for the wrong reasons.ie to
‘save’ a relationship.
people of all ages need to be taught responsibiity-of course the
labour/commie ideal is to make everyone DEPENDANT and give up thinking>
their freedom!
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June 18, 2010 at 10:47
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I thought my Brother-in-law explained it to my nephews in a brillint
way;
“You know what they all say about girls in the play ground?….Well it’s
true.”
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June 18, 2010 at 10:02
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I remember at the age of seventeen enjoying a deep soak in a bath prior to
going out on a saturday night, when my father appeared in the bathroom
unannounced (that bloody door lock never worked), with my mother peering
through the crack in the door.
Er um er um erm your mother thinks that I should tell you about the ‘facts
of life’.
Its OK Dad, I have learned all of that at school
Oh Thank God, he said beating a hasty retreat.
I had done nothing of the sort of course, as sex was banned from even being
mentioned in the early Seventies Grammar school I went to. However you kind of
work these things out in a co-ed.
My great grandfather was far more down to earth (died when he was 95)
nobody teaches cats and dogs about sex its natural- but I wish somebody would
teach that moth eaten tabby of ours about contraception.
Its not the State’s responsibility to make it easy for people like my
parents, its the parents responsibility to make it as easy as possible for a
youngster to talk to them.
Nature says that you are ready to be a parent at puberty, society demands
that you hang off until you are at least into your late twenties- there is the
rub.
Re Reverse Dutch steamboat – So thats what it is called !!
- June 18, 2010 at 11:17
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Its not the State
- June 18, 2010 at 11:17
- June 18, 2010 at 10:00
- June 18, 2010 at 09:56
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Why do our ‘betters’ think that teaching 5 year olds about sex will stop
teenagers getting pregnant?
They will probably have assumed that the practices of other nations who
have a lower teenage pregnancy rates have such pregnancy rates because they
teach the birds and the bees at an earlier age.
Do other nations give people money and a home for popping out a sprog? Do
other nations teenagers see a baby as a fashion accessory? Do other nations
have an amoral state that has displaced traditional familiy and community
relationships and is not prepared to tell irresponsible youths ‘no’?
Show them a video of birth and perhaps they will be less eager to
replicate.
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June 18, 2010 at 09:32
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There is a quite wonderful book called ‘Mummy Laid An Egg’ (I don’t know
the author – sorry) which my kids had when they were 5 & 7-ish. In the
book a couple of anxious parents tackle the subject of reproduction with talk
of birds, bees, gooseberry bushes and storks as the children listen
sceptically. Finally, the kids sit the parents down and explain to them, with
the aid of some diagrams they have sketched, what really happens.
I didn’t
make a big deal of it, the kids pored over it for a week or so and then, topic
covered and biological facts digested, they moved on.
I have, though, spent time talking with my son in particular, about the
repercussions of having a child before he is ready, not least that he would be
bound to the child’s other parent for a minimum of 18 years and very likely
for the rest of his life, and not necessarily able to have a great deal of say
in how the child the child was raised. He has already been ‘crazy in love’,
only now to look back on the lengthy relationship with sober astonishment and
I’m fairly confident he appreciates the importance of being responsible for
his own contraception.
Or am I being unspeakably naive?
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June 19, 2010 at 13:21
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Gloria refers to the sublime Babette Cole,
whose two master works “Mummy Laid An Egg” and “Doctor Dog” are perfect
for the average seven year old or literate five year olds and are a boon to
parents and grandparents alike. They knock spots of anything the entire DFCS
ever produced. We would save tons of money and do the job of health
education much better by simply adopting these two books as official school
texts, but part of Cole’s wonderful power is that she’s always chippy,
anarchic and funny, and never, ever quite proper, so the establishment does
not care to clutch her to its bosom. This guarantees all the children read
them. Good.
Mummy laid an Egg won a Brit Award for Best Illustrated Book. It is the
most famous book ever written on Sex Education for Children published in 72
languages and sold over 2 million copies. Dr Dog is a best loved canine hero
published in 65 different languages and sold over a million copies
worldwide.
I commend all Cole’s works to the House as they are all dead good.
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June 18, 2010 at 09:30
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I would google it but I’m at the office and anything slightly risky is off
limits ever since I did a query for a colleague wanting to check the chest
feathers of the Great Tit compared to that of the Cole Tit.
- June 18,
2010 at 09:21
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Great to read a sensible male post on this TJ. Love the graphic and await
your response to Majic with interest.
- June 18,
2010 at 09:18
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Doh! Beaten to it.
- June 18,
2010 at 09:18
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What is a reverse Dutch steamboat???
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June 18, 2010 at 09:14
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Um….I think I might regret asking this but what is a reverse Dutch
steamboat ?
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