Roll out the barrel…….
In Eng-er-land, that Eng-er-land
Only boozy faces bloom there
And there’s never any room there
For a worry or a gloom there
Roll out the barrel, we hear a barrel of lies
Roll out the barrel, they’ve got the ads on the run
Zing, boom, tararrel, ring out a song of good cheer
Now’s the time to stop the fun, for the Stalinesque gang is here
With apologies to Andrew Sisters.
I shall not be the first, and by no means the last, to point out the nonsensical links being made between alcohol advertising and the current rage for binge drinking in the UK. I have no doubt that foremost in the rush to rubbish this claim will be anyone with even a loose affiliation with France.
France is a country awash with alcohol. Cheap alcohol. Alcohol that is available in outlets inconceivable in the UK. (Even my hairdresser has a nifty display of her brother’s famed Vin blanc.) Alcohol that is available at any time of the day or night – bars have to close for one hour out of every 24 hours, but they don’t all need to close at the same time. Natch!, you just move to the bar next door. Alcohol is promoted at every opportunity. It is subsidised, worshipped, advertised, promoted, given away, its famed makers are held up as celebrities, it’s farmers are given special dispensation to make a form of alcohol – ‘Eau de Vie’ – that is something like 70° proof for their own enjoyment, children are taught which is the best wine to accompany their food………
In all the years I have lived here, I have only once since a drunk rolling in the gutter – and he was an Englishman on holiday. It may happen, I can only report that I have never seen it so.
Not only so, but the French drink more alcohol per head of population than the British. 14.2 litres as against the British languishing at No 12 in the league of these things, with a paltry 10.4 litres per head of population. If the findings of the Alcohol Health Alliance, who have endorsed this specious BMA document which has so gladdened the hearts of the puritans were true, there should be half as many again of drunken Frenchmen rolling in the gutter. There patently aren’t, so something is adrift.
Take a look at the nine point plan being promoted by the BMA – such a weighty tome it took all of four minutes to download even with France’s famed high speed ASDL!:
1. Implement and rigorously enforce a comprehensive ban on all alcohol marketing communications
2. Establish minimum price levels for the sale of alcoholic products
3. Increase the level of excise duty paid on alcohol above the rate of inflation and rationalise the current taxation system so that it is accurately linked to alcoholic strength for all products
4. Regulate the availability of alcoholic products through a reduction in licensing hours for on and off-licensed premises
5. Commission further independent research and evaluation of sales practices, covering all aspects of industry marketing (including that of producers, distributors and supermarkets). This should be used to inform, and where appropriate, strengthen the current regulatory system
6. Ensure that the density of alcohol outlets is taken into account in planning or licence applications, and where necessary, introduce legislative changes to ensure these factors are considered
7. Assess the impact on public health of the changes to licensing legislation in the UK, and in particular the emergence of pubcos
8. Undertake a full audit of the market, and consider ways to prohibit any products that either appeal to young people more than adults, or are particularly associated with problematic drinking
9. Introduce a compulsory levy on the alcohol industry with which to fund an independent public health body to oversee alcohol-related research, health promotion and policy advice. The levy should be set as a proportion of current expenditure on alcohol marketing, index linked in future years.
In respect of every one of these recommendations, French policy is diametrically opposed, and has been for years. Did these self styled experts never look across the Chanel? No drunks rolling in the aisles here!
Yes, there is a problem of alcoholism here, and of drunk driving. In respect of alcoholism, I accept that wives and family may well suffer collateral damage, ditto there is collateral damage from drunk driving, and I don’t seek to diminish either – but apart from those provisos, I would suggest that amongst the main differences are that the French en masse:
Go out of their way to avoid causing annoyance or disturbance to other people. It is a matter of self respect, and respect for others. You won’t instill that in the UK population, young or old, by further legislation.
Virtually all the population drink in moderation – so the average per capita figures are more evenly balanced. In the UK it seem to be the case that a few people are pushing up the per capita levels.
Have a different attitude to alcohol – it is seen as as necessary adjunct to food, not a means to become insensate. Hence the French tend to have one or two glasses of wine when they are eating – you would not dream of offering a Frenchman alcohol without some food, even a bowl of peanuts, alongside. The British seem to look upon drinking alcohol as an entertainment in its own right.
Moreover, not just an entertainment, but a slightly ‘naughty’ thing that they are ‘entitled’ to do after being ‘good’ all week – surely this can only be part and parcel of the legacy of the Puritan movement.
Which brings us full circle – how on earth does further demonising alcohol expect to remove its allure to young people, who are perennially attracted to forbidden goods?
Discuss – in sober fashion!
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September 9, 2009 at 2:31 pm -
One might consider Prohibition in America. Very successful that was, I don’t think.
PS. I am as yet perfectly sober, thank you. The Sun is barely over the yard arm. Or it would be if there was any Sun.
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September 9, 2009 at 2:53 pm -
Ise fink dat de hole of dis hic decion discusson is rader like flop pissin in de wind falls on floor under the table. Anyone for climate change debate hic??
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September 9, 2009 at 3:13 pm -
It’s exactly the same here Anna. McDonalds has beer, everywhere serves alcohol, you can even have a drink when you fill up at the petrol station, they all have bars/restaurants!
We have the same problems as France, drink driving etc.. We have the odd drunk of course but they’re good humoured and everyone enjoys themselves, no fighting…
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September 9, 2009 at 3:18 pm -
Alcohol brings in money via Duty. The higher the price the bigger the Duty.
Simples.
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September 9, 2009 at 3:34 pm -
Just another lying excuse to up the revenue. Blame the irks.
They are so transparent. Obviously they haven’t cottoned on yet to the fact that The Electorate no longer accept things blindly, secure in the knowledge that Parliament is so much brighter than we are.Do they think this when they get elected, or is it part of Portal?
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September 9, 2009 at 4:54 pm -
That website is an eye opener, Ps your blogger profile web address is missing a C in the raccoon it goes to annaracoon dot com
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September 9, 2009 at 5:03 pm -
Insensible dear, not insensate. Oh, and for the climate change grinding of teeth time, try this – the armageddonists’ theory seems to definitely be going tits up:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17742-worlds-climate-could-cool-first-warm-later.html
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September 9, 2009 at 5:53 pm -
I don’t drink, smoke or tell lies, so I couldn’t care less about the plans to drive drinkers out of existence ….
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September 9, 2009 at 6:19 pm -
We drunken louts of England
Will have to take a stand
When half a pint of shandy
Is banned throughout the land!
When the sober lesson’s soundly taught;
When Happy-Hour’s no longer sought;
When Off-sales dwindle down to nought
Units weekly;
And none of us drives a car
Home from the local bar;
Then we’ll do our imbibing
In front of the Tee-Vee
And drink from massive glasses
Keeping units down to three;
We’ll swill and we’ll quaff, we’ll slurp, we’ll sup!
We’ll swig G&T from a plastic cup!
We’ll toast to the ban with a “Bottoms Up!”
And we’ll still be the drunken louts of England!(with apologies to Noel Coward & The Stately Homes of England)
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September 9, 2009 at 6:43 pm -
It’s not Anna. Booze is so cheap here, it’s ridiculous. It’s our culture in the UK. Perhaps people in the UK are at the point where they feel so desperately OUT OF CONTROL of their lives, that they “drown their sorrows”…
I know when I lived in the UK, my stress levels were so high, I actually developed high blood pressure. I still get angry about the way the British people are treated but it doesn’t affect me personally anymore. It’s still stressful here but for different reasons and my blood pressure is back to normal.
To be honest, I can only surmise, I don’t really know the answer.
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September 9, 2009 at 6:46 pm -
I brew my own beer and buy my wine in France.
So they can shove whatever they like up their fundaments.Idiots
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September 9, 2009 at 7:07 pm -
I’ve been watching the England cricket (sic) team try to hit a ball with a bat all afternoon – it has not improved the pain in my knee – in fact it’s made it worserer – I think I deserve to drown my sorrows now….maybe they should legislate against bloody awful play instead of trying to ban (increase the cost of) alcohol. Now there’s an idea…….where’s david Beckham………?
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September 9, 2009 at 7:34 pm -
I actually think it’s downright stressful living in the UK!
From the moment you get up in the morning and listen to the latest spin/news on the TV or radio, drive to work in traffic jams with CCTV wherever you go, to when you get home.. if you go out, you can’t relax with your mates and have a drink a fag and you’re lectured, nannied and spied upon constantly…
To be clear, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS HERE IN SPAIN. There is not a CCTV camera in sight where I live (infact there are 3 between here and Malaga but on the motorway), no traffic jams, no nannying, communal bins where you can dump the contents of your whole house if you like… and you can go out in the evening and enjoy a ciggie or even a joint (if you like) in the pub with your mates.
This crap all happens to good abiding taxpayers while criminals, illegals and terrorists just get away with literally murder. Is it any wonder Britons are angry?
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September 9, 2009 at 7:44 pm -
The problem is, of course, not the price of alcohol but how we handle our alcohol. Now there’s always been a Saturday night binge culture as far back as I can remember and I can’t recall us getting so animated back then, so there is a touch of the ‘moral panic’ about it.
However something has definitely changed over the past 10 years or so and I’m not sure I’m right here but we seem to have moved away from enjoying alcohol as a way to chill out and relax and now use it as an excuse to lash out. It is also related to the rise of total incivility and what I might call the “fuck you” culture. It is not limited to a particular social class either though it’s easier (and lazier!) to just blame it on ‘chavs’ etc.
Let’s also entertain the idea that notions of personal responsibility and self-discipline have declined- in fact the idea of self-control now almost seems to be frowned upon as stiff-arsed and maybe even a sign of mental illness, if you can believe that.
Only a pretty fundamental change in our culture can address this issue and I’m not talking about going back to the 1950’s and all that crap.
I’m trying to think what but my brain has run dry, probably from all that alcohol! ;o).
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September 9, 2009 at 7:47 pm -
Listen up everyone, I’ve brought along a few bottles of Bollinger here, maybe we could continue this discussion with a glass or two and hope for a good harvest and vintage year of pinot noir …. cheers ….hic …better than the cricket….oh, and well done Michael Shields and big boos to Jack Straw…
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September 9, 2009 at 8:04 pm -
Something HAS changed. I remember getting lashed on Fridays and Saturdays too but we didn’t sit around on the pavement throwing up with our skirts aroundour necks and we certainly didn’t sleep around! Women were different… we behaved differently to the way females behave now.
As for the men, there was inevitably a scuffle or two (we had mods and rockers, showing my age here…..). This generation is certainly not unique in its gang culture.
It has to be (as Weston Bay says) a change in personal attitudes. Self respect has obviously diminished and respect for others is even worse but what/who is to blame?
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September 9, 2009 at 8:38 pm -
One thing I have noticed that’s completely different here….
If I go out on a Friday or Saturday night, our High Street is buzzing with life. Buzzing with FAMILY life… right up until 1 or 2 in the morning. Babies, children running around, whole families are out socially… that doesn’t happen in the UK.
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September 9, 2009 at 8:39 pm -
Anna another very good post.Having lived in the Netherlands for three years , I saw another civilised attitude to drinking in complete contrast to binge drinking U.K. style. There is also a culture of respect for other people and an understanding of how to behave in a civilised manner. This is why I intend to return there as soon as possible to avoid the ever worsening situation here.
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September 9, 2009 at 8:41 pm -
Perhaps alcohol and other beverages have become TOO EXPENSIVE for families! Perhaps if the prices were put down, families would go out and other people would feel more obliged to behave?
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September 9, 2009 at 9:18 pm -
Having worked in most countries in Europe I can assure you that “binge” drinking is not just confined to the UK. Most large cities and towns have their fair share of drunken behaviour.
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September 9, 2009 at 9:21 pm -
Blink – I’ll see your Bolly and I’ll raise you 4 gift-wrapped boxes of Tatty…. see you by the curled-edged egg-sandwiches in the Pavilion for a disagreeable ‘tea’ and a chat..
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