Charity Scammers and ‘Cancer Cures’.
I really wish I had saved all the e-mails I get telling me of the weird and wonderful ways in which I could rid myself of cancer if I was only to send the writer money – quite large tumps of it too! – for a supply of ‘special’ Turmeric to shove up my left nostril, or Cannabis to shove up my backside, or chemicals with which to paint my tongue green; all of which are apparently an alternative to ‘invasive treatment’ by the NHS, or the administration of strange chemicals ‘derived from mustard gas‘. At least the NHS’s chemicals don’t turn my tongue green say I…and there’s nowt so invasive as a nostril packed with Turmeric.
There is something about cancer – fear of the hidden invader? – that attracts the weird, the wonderful and the downright dodgy. It always has. Parliament was forced to pass The Cancer Act in 1939 – to regulate the treatment of cancer. All that remains of it today is the outright ban on advertising ‘alternative methods’ of treatment – which has led to the internet devising ever more imaginative ways in which to satisfy its conspiriloon belief that there are ways of curing cancer that are suppressed by ‘Big Pharma’ for its own financial benefit. Hence the constant e-mails to carefully curated blogs that mention cancer inviting ‘financial benefit’ to the sender, and the endless spam in comments on such blogs.
If there is anything more irritating than being on the receiving end of all this unsolicited advertising, it is being on the receiving end of the equally numerous requests for money to pay for treatment by one of these quack salesmen who claim that ‘Big Pharma’s’ biggest sin is that they are totally money orientated…
One of the most prolific in recent times has been an Australian outfit; run by a girl allegedly diagnosed with terminal brain cancer by – an alternative treatment practitioner. Talk about creating your own customers! Annabelle Gibson was an ‘app’ designer; and naturally the first thing she did, ‘believing’ that she had ‘terminal brain cancer’ was to create an app for sale via the Apple store, and later featured on the Apple watch. The vivacious Annabelle had a following of some 200,000 as she told of how she was curing her incurable cancer through the ‘power of fruits, vegetables’, Ayurvedic practices, craniosacral therapy, colonic irrigations and the controversial Gerson treatments.
In no time at all, Annabelle was able to fund a five-star lifestyle: designer clothes, £1,000 handbags, first-class international travel. a luxury beachside apartment in Elwood and a BMW 4WD. Had she merely done this quietly, she might have got away with it – but her desire to be seen as the saviour of the world enticed her to claim that she had donated more than $300,000 to charities funding schools in Africa, and that her instagram account was linked to 20 more charities, which made journalists sit up and finally take notice.
Ms Gibson hosted a fundraiser in December 2013, but now denies it was a fundraising event, and said that the purpose of the function was to launch her new app. The invitation included promotional material listing three charities and the work they do, highlighting school building in Sierra Leone, support for mothers and their babies in developing countries, and protecting asylum seekers’ human rights. It also said funds would go to a fourth cause – a terminally ill five-year-old boy who needed life-saving treatment overseas.
Inquiries showed that charities had not had donations from her – and worse, doubts were cast on her claim to have cancer at all, let alone the multiple cancers which she confusingly now claimed to have developed – so much for the ‘alternative cure’. She has denied that she claimed to ‘have a cure’, or that she encouraged others to cease conventional treatment:
But in a social media post that has since been removed Ms Gibson said: “I gave up on conventional treatment when it was making my cancer more aggressive and started treating myself naturally. I have countless times helped others do the same, along with leading them down natural therapy for everything from fertility, depression, bone damage and other types of cancer.”
No doubt removed because last month, her credibility started to unravel. Gibson has claimed to The Australian that her 2014 Instagram post was the result of an embarrassing misdiagnosis by a German alternative therapist team, who she did not name. Originally she had claimed to have been diagnosed by a ‘conventional team’ and ‘courageously’ declined their treatment in favour of ‘alternative route’ after she went through two months of chemotherapy and radiotherapy and one day passed out in a park for several hours. ‘When she woke, she changed her life’.
Her Instagram account has been made inaccessible, photos of her and details of various diagnoses and hospital admissions have been deleted and The Whole Pantry organisation has distanced itself from Gibson, much as LiveStrong did with cancer survivor and drug cheat Lance Armstrong.
On Friday it was announced that the consumer protection division in Victoria, Australia is preparing to take legal action against her for faking cancer for financial gain. That may be the correct route to account for the charitable donations that appear to have gone ‘walkabout in the outback’ – but it does nothing to address the moral issue of why these people feel entitled to prey on those with cancer – some of whom are desperately grasping at straws.
I have watched two fellow patients die after rejecting further treatment in favour of something they were buying on the Internet; I can well understand why, they were both much younger than I and had young children – powerful reasons to grasp at straws. It is a cruelty beyond mere financial avarice:
“There are unfortunately some totally unscrupulous people, and I’m not necessarily referring to [Ms Gibson], who make claims that are just not validated for the treatment of malignant brain cancer,” he said. “These people are extremely cruel because they prey on patients who are extremely vulnerable and hoping to find a cure for what is essentially an incurable disease … they perpetuate the cruellest form of hoax.”
They encourage parents not to vaccinate their children; perfectly healthy persons to follow extreme diets, and in the case of Jess Ainscough, the original ‘wellness warrior’, not only did she die after following the ghastly Gerson formula, but so did her Mother who also refused conventional treatment for her breast cancer.
I have nothing whatsoever against alternative treatment – I grew up with ‘Nature cure’ and am a keen fan of healthy food and keeping oneself as healthy as possible.
What I do object to is the constant bombardment, that almost amounts to bullying at times, to people at their most vulnerable (and I defy anyone with cancer not to feel frightened at times) with their suggestion that it is only your obstinacy in not buying their promoted product and abandoning conventional treatment that is the cause of your impending death.
We each chose our own route to maintain our health for as long as possible. It really isn’t fair, or moral, to make your living by preying on those struggling against cancer. To do so by pretending to be a fellow sufferer, and to cheat charities into the bargain in order to finance a luxurious lifestyle deserves more than just condemnation from a consumer organisation.
It deserves a criminal investigation. Not to be, sadly.
I suppose having written this, I will get another avalanche of e-mails. A plague on all your terminals.
- Ho Hum
May 6, 2016 at 1:32 pm -
And cue, stage left…..
- Bandini
May 6, 2016 at 2:29 pm -
I was reading about this case earlier, marvelling at the sheer nerve:
“Attempting to justify her behaviour, she told the magazine: “If I don’t have an answer, then I will sort of theorise it myself and come up with one. I think that’s an easy thing to often revert to if you don’t know what the answer is.””
Aye, that explains it! Supposedly her partner knew nothing and is “devastated”, but her mother doesn’t seem to understand what all the fuss is about:
“Belle told a white lie, aged 23-and-a-half. So what?”I’ve seen it suggested she may be suffering from one of those made-up mental illnesses designed to get crooks off their hooks, tell-tale symptoms of which presumably include BMWs in beachside apartment driveways…
The fine Penguin has been hit with is interesting, though: “$30,000 for failing to fact-check” the book and they “will also have to include a ‘prominent warning notice’ on all books that contain claims about natural therapies in future”. That’s something, I suppose. - Bandini
May 6, 2016 at 3:39 pm -
“Belle’s dizzying ascent began in May 2013… blah blah blah… Next came the Seven Network, newspapers and women’s magazines hungry for her incredible story [says ‘Women’s Weekly’ magazine], but at a time when a rapidly changing media landscape means resources are stretched, no checks were made.”
No checks were made… changing media environment… reminds me of this from Moor Larkin:
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/deadline.htmlNo time for checks (even if they were really interested in the facts) when only a few hours separate first-contact & publication.
- Eric
May 8, 2016 at 3:48 am -
One Wimmin’s website – Mamamia was the main promoter of Gibson without one single check being made. The website owner Mia Freedman rails about Wimmin’s rights and “bullying in the workplace” on an amazingly superficial level but has recently hit the wall after “donating” the efforts of 2 unpaid interns at a silent auction which sold for $10,000. Now numerous ex-interns and employees are coming out of the woodwork claiming a climate of bullying by Freedman at Mamamia.
I think claims the cops have dropped the investigation are premature. That was a year ago but Gibson is now under investigation again by the Victorian Dept of Fair Trading who have passed their Gibson file to VicPol and I would be most surprised if a fraud charge is not forthcoming.
- Eric
- Mrs Grimble
May 6, 2016 at 3:44 pm -
For several years, I’ve been following a blog called Respectful Insolence, written by an oncologist and cancer researcher who goes after cancer quackery with ferocity.
Anna, you don’t know the half of what’s available in so-called cancer cures nowadays – you can pump a range of liquids up your bum four times a day, have your liver parasites electrically zapped, consume nothing but gallons of freshly-prepared fuit and vegetable juices (made from organic fruit and vegetables, naturally) for up to a month at a time, have your DNA rearranged (for a special BOGOF offer, combine it with having your chakras realigned !), swallow 120+ vitamin supplements daily. And if you fancied a holiday you can pop over to Mexico , have all that AND and have bovine stem cells injected into your tumour as well! What’s not to like?- Bandini
May 6, 2016 at 5:05 pm -
“Wheatgrass rectal implants” which “can potentially unleash powerful renewing vibrations” – brilliant!
- Bandini
- Carol42
May 6, 2016 at 5:34 pm -
Totally agree Anna I just don’t know how these people can do it. I can’t understand the ones who fall for it either, but perhaps clutching at straws is all they have, especially if young with children. Maybe being dx when older I took the treatment offered and crossed my fingers, so far so good. She, and others, should be made to repay every penny and prosecuted. It is just so cruel, they deserve to get cancer and see what it is really like.
- Don Cox
May 6, 2016 at 8:31 pm -
People will fall for anything. Consider how many have been persuaded to be suicide bombers by unscrupulous priests who have no intention of dying for the “cause” themselves.
Cynicism and common sense should be taught in schools; but unfortunately teachers are particularly liable to be suckered by quacks.
- Don Cox
- The Blocked Dwarf
May 6, 2016 at 6:18 pm -
Words fail me. It is bad enough when such ‘medical’ advice is well meant – as in the case of my then terminally ill mate with Leukemia who was nagged into a near fatal colonic impaction by the women folk of his clan who had read, in Hausfrau Weekly, that bananas cured cancer. There is a reason why morphium doesn’t come in banana flavour.
Back when I was misdiagnosed as having lung cancer I contacted a friend whose girlfriend had refused all ‘conventional’ treatments for her cancer and survived. I was genuinely interested to hear how she had effected a cure. Back came an email outlining what she had done. In a former life I wanted to be a priest and have an abiding interest in the more colourful members, the birds of paradise, of Xianity (oh ok, i mean ‘bat shit crazy’) but even an indepth knowledge of 19 Century american’Pastor John-Joe-Billy-Bob’ miracle workers did not prepare me for the ‘nonsense’ my mate’s missus sent me back. As far as I could make out , curing my cancer would require my attending seminars that would teach me how to fashion a magical egg….
At that point I broke off reading the email, which was in German, to double check with the Bestes Frau In The World that I had infact correctly translated it. Then I consulted Wiki and discovered that there was a whole fresh batch of crazy not mentioned in the, relatively ‘balanced’ (ie not totally off with the bloody fairies), ‘get you hooked’ email.
After that email, someone pumping an NHS-Bargain Basement mustard gas derivative through my body seemed the saner option.
- Bandini
May 7, 2016 at 1:17 pm -
I don’t speak German, and I haven’t seen the instructions, but what’s the betting that after fashioning the ‘magical egg’ the next step would be ‘implanting’ it? A dash of wheatgrass helps the medicine go down – or up!
- The Blocked Dwarf
May 7, 2016 at 1:57 pm -
I don’t recall the precise details…I have a feeling it was a ‘virtual’ magical egg. But yes, the purveyor’s of quack ‘cures’ do seem , often , to be unhealthy anally fixated.
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Bandini
- Don Cox
May 6, 2016 at 8:34 pm -
Perhaps even more evil that these quacks and scammers are the people who run factories to produce counterfeit medicines.
- GG
May 6, 2016 at 8:34 pm -
Nonetheless I am still brooding on the case of the perhaps well-named Gearin-Tosh (an Oxford don, which maybe goes to show there is no fool so great as a clever fool). On the one hand, we all know that medicine is full of outliers and that one swallow does not make a summer.
On the other, here is his obituary:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1495451/Michael-Gearin-Tosh.html
I presume this sort of thing has had a proper Cochrane-like evaluation? If so, I would be most interested to read it.
- Bandini
May 6, 2016 at 9:29 pm -
A very interesting expert-review of the book on page 4 here:
http://myeloma.org/pdfs/MyelomaTodayVol4Num9.pdf- GG
May 6, 2016 at 9:40 pm -
Thank you. Very welcome.
However perhaps one should include a warning here, as this blog is no doubt read by all sorts. The specifics of this piece are the important part: the review absolutely does NOT suggest that if you are diagnosed with “cancer” you should ignore what doctors say and trust your instincts. Just to be clear.
- GG
- Fat Steve
May 6, 2016 at 9:42 pm -
Oddly enough GG I remembered Gearin Tosh when reading this piece. It was the coffee enemas that stuck (?) in my mind. The ones I really despise are those that push faith healing in that they really mess with the body, the mind AND the spirit. I have met one ot two in my time , one a client passing through so to speak thought a lawyer would think it was a hoot and whatever may have shown on my face appeared to rather disconcert him.He was interesting though because it was as if a part of his humanity was genuinely absent rather than present and justified away.
All are egregious and perhaps the most archetypal was/is Peter Popov who formed the basis of the lead in the movie Leap of Faith (worth a watch if one has nothing better to do)- Duncan Disorderly
May 7, 2016 at 6:11 am -
Faith healers tend to mess the wallet as well.
- Fat Steve
May 9, 2016 at 4:47 pm -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg
A clip sent to me by a member of my family ……for those who watch to the end apparently the spoof elicited $250,000 of donations …..but watch mid way through when the Pastors wife says don’t waste your money on horrible treatments send it to us.
- Fat Steve
- Duncan Disorderly
- Bandini
- Ho Hum
May 6, 2016 at 10:55 pm -
I agree wholeheartedly on that specific
But, after the birth of Ho Hum Mk 2 v2, I came to the conclusion that there are times when, in dealing with the medical fraternity, one should trust one’s instincts, and scream and shout as required, if you perceive that all is not well. It’s as much, if not more so, a behavioural issue as it is one of basic competence, but nowadays I’d rather yell ‘Oi! You!’ and be proved wrong, than maybe regret later that I hadn’t
- Ho Hum
May 6, 2016 at 11:00 pm -
That was meant to be a reply to GG, but iOS’ handling of the ‘reply’ selector seems to be almost as bad as Microsoft’s understanding that when you say you don’t want Win 10, ‘No’ really means ‘No’
- binao
May 7, 2016 at 8:40 am -
Heartily agree with your piece Anna
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It’s now over five years since my wife died after 15 years of conventional i.e. very unpleasant treatments for secondaries.
I recall mainly the well meaning suggestions from friends and others; ‘have you heard of this latest cure (usually a bizarre diet or wonder fruit), saw it in the paper; internet, heard from a friend, etc… sounds wonderful’.I sometimes wonder why otherwise intelligent people can be so stupid. Do they really think the highly trained & competent surgeons & oncologists are ignoring new treatments? Or that having had sensible conversations with these experts about the illness and outcomes, we want to hear about some mythical get out of jail free card?
- Mudplugger
May 7, 2016 at 9:38 am -
But despite all we know about biology, physics, chemistry, geology, cosmology, technology etc., some otherwise intelligent folk still seem happy to put their faith in their various mythical ‘Sky Pixies’.
Same problem – and similarly, there’s usually some shifting of money at the bottom of it all. - JonD
May 7, 2016 at 12:12 pm -
Is it really that stupid to think that even highly trained & competent surgeons & oncologists may not know everything ? Drug company scientists and all of these medical professionals are looking in essentially the same place for treatments and cures, presumably a consequence of there being a near universal, in the West, way of thinking about disease. It is not inconceivable that new and important knowledge might emerge from left field, as is so often the case with scientific leaps forward, but little genuine medical research occurs there because funding of left field research is very hard to come by in the modern world.
The foolishness of people following these alternate path lies not in rejecting the idea that current medical groupthink necessarily defines what can and can’t be achieved but in failing to properly evaluate the evidence behind the claims of the alternate treatment providers.
- binao
May 7, 2016 at 5:39 pm -
All I can say JonD from my own experience is that as we become more deeply immersed in long term treatments; breast cancer in the case of my wife, heart problems myself, we are exposed to ever more knowledge of the condition and it’s varieties. We learn more about treatments, how they work, or why they don’t. And frankly to be told that a treatment only has a success rate of 50% and certain risks is quite good at sharpening up one’s mind on what’s important in life.
I take your point about groupthink vs left field, but I reckon stats & evidence based research is always going to be a better bet than eureka and a lack of scientific method.- JonD
May 8, 2016 at 12:53 am -
Agreed. My point is really that research needs to widen its scope, because today it is almost totally driven by the idea that a new drug or drug class is the only way to treat anything. That’s understandable on two fronts: firstly the disease model we are currently wedded to sees the disease as an enemy that needs to be overcome, and secondly the costs of research are prodigious and companies require the prospect of a return to make the necessary investment.
The current disease model has worked well so far for illness that are caused by pathogens, it is markedly less successful when applied to other illnesses. Where, for example, disease has occurred as the result of the dis-regulation of some bodily process it is reasonable to imagine that normal regulation might be reestablished by some means that doesn’t involve some sort of drug. This is less about combat and more about harmony. There are many such diseases but very little research into non-drug solutions. For organisations such as the NHS, which incurs huge costs in treating disregulation related diseases, there could be justification for sponsoring research which aimed not to create some profit generating drug but, instead, simply to reduce its costs and lower the pressure on its services. What we get instead is Public Health, which regards science as a minor branch of marketing and does no substantive research at all.
- JonD
- binao
- Mudplugger
- Sleeper
May 7, 2016 at 10:52 am -
Having been diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer I duly searched the net for information. The amount of total rubbish both from scammers and nut cases is amazing. I sent copies of my scans to a Dr friend in Florida for further analysis and she informs me that the best cancer surgeon is in Dallas, Texas. My problem is do I seek publicity via the Daily Mail or Sun for a crowd funding appeal or do I behave like a normal, rather frightened, individual and see what the future brings. Answers on a cheese sandwich please.
- The Blocked Dwarf
May 7, 2016 at 12:26 pm -
My problem is do I seek publicity via the Daily Mail or Sun for a crowd funding appeal
That depends on whether you have marketable value…are you photogenic, abused (‘Savile Gave Me Cancer’), black (“British Colonialists Gave Me Cancer”), trans-species (Species Realignment Surgery Gave Me Mange) ? If however , as I suspect, you are a boring white, hetero, middle aged male then you’re a dead man walking.
You might try hanging around Dover Docks, bound to be a world class cancer surgeon among those Syrian ‘Children’ coming through the tunnel any day soon.
Oh hang on, you said ‘Cheese Sandwich’….how about “Hovis Gave Me Cancer”…might be some traction there….?
- Bandini
May 7, 2016 at 1:19 pm -
White bread could be the next white powder:
“After a St. Louis jury awarded a South Dakota woman $55 million on Monday, the company said the decision “goes against 30 years of studies by medical experts around the world that continue to support the safety of cosmetic talc.” That verdict followed a $72-million award to another plaintiff in the same court, including $62 million in punitive damages. Johnson faces at least an additional 1,200 lawsuits on similar claims.”
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-talc-cancer-johnson-20160506-snap-story.html
- Bandini
- Bandini
May 7, 2016 at 3:15 pm -
No the subject of crowd-funding, I once came across someone asking for donations to fund some revolutionary treatment for their poor dog who had a wonky leg or summat; for the life of me I can’t recall what blind-alley led me there, but I became intrigued at the whole process, and of how willing people are to open their wallets…
The sum being aimed for was fairly substantial, but the information provided to support the claim was almost completely absent – a couple of poor quality photos of a couple of stitches in the dog’s leg & really not much else (such as vet’s diagnosis / estimate of cost of treatment / etc.). Basically, those deciding to contribute were doing so blindly, just accepting that the person behind it a) had a poorly dog, and b) was going to use the thousands of dollars to help the beast.
Incredibly, the money flowed. Whereas I would have expected to read updates on progress there were none… until the poor pooch suddenly needed some MORE treatment (or its owner another holiday), and a couple more pics of bandages & sticking plasters appeared. More money arrived, and I just shook my head and lost interest.
I’ve been reminded of this now as by coincidence I just came across a story from a while ago about a sick British tourist ‘stranded’ in my neck of the woods, and the crowd-funding efforts made to repatriate her…I hadn’t heard anything about this in the local press at all, but the UK press didn’t hold back, and despite the differently-named journalists claiming the byline the EXACT same story appeared in more than one national (100% word for word), and a differently-worded article was spread across the local rags with links to the money-raising page.
Not one article I’ve seen sought to question the tale, and the description of the hospital regime is simply, at best, a misrepresentation playing up to fears of dodgy foreigners. The pan-handling for “hospital bills” (when there really would have been none) didn’t pique the journos’ curiosity, and the statement that the woman’s travel insurance wouldn’t cover repatriation to the UK accepted without question.
(“But whether you are travelling within Europe or to far-flung corners of the globe, you won’t need to buy specific ‘repatriation insurance’ for this unfortunate event. This is because repatriation is already covered under all standard travel insurance policies…”)Once again, the money flowed with absolutely no guarantees over its destination/purpose, and updates stopped, and so God knows what happened. (We know someone who would likely have been treating her, so I may yet find out one of these days if I don’t forget to ask!)
So in short, Sleeper, by assured that there are plenty of people out there out willing to part with their hard-earned without any checks made whatsoever; if you were to actually provide the proof that so many others fail to provide you might be surprised at the response. Good luck.
- The Blocked Dwarf
- John Marsh
May 7, 2016 at 12:51 pm -
An alternative view:
Firstly, I agree every single day we are faced with scammers from advertising trying to get us to buy things that we do not have the money for to the really downright evil as highlighted in this well written article.
Secondly, I would suggest modern medicine also can have, maybe not wilful and deliberate scammers, misplaced belief and lack of honesty. So sometimes a pharmeutical company will invest billions in a new drug but whose either use is dangerous that did not show up in short term clinical trials or over prescribed amount of the drug, thus something that really had a place and benefit—the excessive use produced really nasty side affects then the lawsuits next the drug is withdrawn. The excessive use unwittingly encouraged for sales purposes thus in these cases the company is it’s own worst enemy and in the end deprives patients of something that a much less time scale use and overall dosage was actually positive. These are two scenarios amongst many other variations and such.
I have experience where I am very grateful indeed to modern medicine but I now know I need to examine things myself. One been asthma. I was on a steroid inhaler for years. The doctors several years ago said the dosage was so small I had nothing to worry about. I did lose my hair on top and oddly when I stopped over time the steroid inhaler my hair has started to grow back. In addition I have now gone many years without having to use steroids or an inhaler. But I must add over the last five years with some life changes I have had about five asthma attacks and two in particular the steroids tablets and inhaler use (relunctantly) got me free again. In this example I would be very relunctance to suggest anyone change from what their doctor recommends, but for me personally, I felt that the modern approach seemed a little too straitjacketed. My other experience was with rheumatoid arthritus that I finally gave in and took a drug called Methotrexate for about six months when the monthly blood tests pointed to some danger level so I stopped. So in my case the methotrexate I felt was like when the can of soda gets stuck in the machine a good thump causes it to drop. My case the body was suddenly overproducing I think white blood cells and they were attacking my joints talk about self destructive. Then this methotrexate poison killed off the excess white blood cells and I was very fortunate at the time the soda can came unstruck. That is the excessive production at this point in time has stopped. And unlike the scammers I do have two letters from the hospital one about the condition and I would never be free. And the other saying I am cured. (I am cautious. Things always can come back and I try very hard not to be arrogant, probably unsuccessfully.)
The point is I am convinced that belief plays too much a role in medicine as it does in law whether modern medicine or alterantive medicine and that a balanced, honest, realistic approach with openness of mind is really needed in many areas. Human nature is too much like a pendulum. Swing from one side to the other. Like salt. We need some salt but suddenly getting too much so the modern message is Salt Is Bad For You when the fact is as far as I am aware is “too much” salt is bad for you.- The Blocked Dwarf
May 7, 2016 at 1:48 pm -
“An alternative view” not really , no smoker has any illusions as to Big Pharma’s shenanigans and since Thalidomide everyone is aware that all the drug trailing in the world, all the experts saying ‘no’, is no guarantee of safety for the individual ….and that’s what it comes down to. There is, despite what Public Health would have us believe, no standard human.
You should hear the landlady talk about one of the drugs she takes….the side effects are beyond horrible for the first 6 months then suddenly, in some people, it seems to work and kick the shit out of certain cancers. But as the doctors don’t tell people that they will have to go through 6 months of hell, people stop taking it …strangely enough.
The first time I met the Landlady in real life, she looked near death’s door…and that she’d need major medical assistance, if not mechanical too, to open that door. The second time i met her, after the drugs had started to work, she breezed in through the door, looking not only 10 years younger than before but so much younger that I wondered about Mr G letting her swan off to meet a strange, younger, man in a dark pub in the depths of Norfolk (the county of really really ‘strange’ men…)
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Roderick
May 7, 2016 at 4:39 pm -
Alas, there are too many people in all walks of life ready to take advantage of the inherent good nature of others. I remember once being accosted by a British-sounding person at the transfer desk in Dubai airport, who spun a sorry tale of having had his wallet stolen and thus being unable to buy a ticket to leave Dubai. I just needed to give him some amount (around 50 Euros I think it was) and all would be well. Of course he couldn’t produce any evidence because – conveniently – all his papers had been stolen along with his wallet. (I have also heard subsequently of remarkably similar stories being spun at other airports.) Being a cynical soul, I advised him to seek Consular assistance and moved on. Of course he ignored my advice and quickly latched on to the next potential mug in the transfer queue.
I suppose drug company representatives (whether western or “alternative”) and their customers in the medical profession must have targets to meet and bonuses to collect, so it is hardly surprising if they play a somewhat similar game. It is though contemptible of them to play it on a member of the ‘worried sick’.
- David
May 8, 2016 at 3:36 pm -
I do not think that many sane people would follow ‘cancer cures’, but everyone should know about their own body. The Queen can tell you all the vitamins, minerals, nutrients, in any food, and what it does in the body. She knows every herb, and what it’s medicinal uses are. Before the NHS every village, Town, and City had at least one herbalist, and they did cure people of many illnesses. Most people these days know more about how their car, washing machine, or insurance works, that how their own body works. They carry on,, eating and drinking, and then demand a ‘cure’ from their doctor when things go wrong.
When we talk about cancer, there are no cures, using conventional, or alternative medicine. Those pronounced ‘cured’ are in the same boat as those who are told they are ‘terminal’, in as much as unless both groups change their diet, and look into the chemicals in food that destroy cancers, and stop them spreading, they all start growing again in ten years.
We all have cancer cells, so small they are un-detectable. Most would be killed off by our own immune system., but with modern detection methods they often don’t get a chance to. What harm is there in taking turmeric and vitamin D both shown to work together in destroying cancers? Now vitamin K2 is becoming important in the fight against cancer, this is cutting edge science. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18374196
We are all going to die of something, and I agree with Anna that no one should pedal any cures, and charge for them. The one thing none of us should die from though is a lack of knowledge about what we are eating, and what it does in our own body.
- Ho Hum
May 8, 2016 at 5:21 pm -
@ David May 8, 2016 at 3:36 pm
‘I agree with Anna that no one should pedal any cures, and charge for them’
Indeed. Those who wish to do that should be told to get on their bikes. But I struggle to with your knowledge of the cells that are so small as to be undetectable. Can you elaborate on these, please?
- David
May 9, 2016 at 7:03 am -
In the end, ‘only’ your bodies immune system can kill cancer cells, whether you are given the so called ‘all clear’ or not.
A study conducted by researchers at Stanford University School of Medicine provides strong new evidence that malignant tumors may grow undetected in the body for a decade or more before they can be sniffed out by the most sophisticated blood tests currently available. https://www.angio.org/cancer-may-grow-undetected-for-a-decade-or-more/
Under normal circumstances, the immune system creates sustained inflammation around a dangerous pathogen or injury which tells the body that there is a problem. However, in the case of tumours, certain cellular mechanisms counteract inflammation which can cause the tumour to go undetected, making it even harder for the body to expel. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071119213955.htm
- Ho Hum
May 9, 2016 at 10:39 am -
Ah, I now see what you mean
Thank you
- Ho Hum
- David
- Ho Hum
- David
May 9, 2016 at 7:04 am -
I am now being ‘moderated’ again, ie ‘not trusted’, so I will have to stop commenting further.
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