The right to defend yourself against sexual allegations?
A fascinating case has been making its way through the legal system unnoticed by all bar a few legal practitioners. The media are uninterested – they cannot name or photograph the parties and there are absolutely no celebrities, no footballers, involved.
Nonetheless, the case has had far reaching consequences, in that, in the opinion of at least one of the three senior judges, the appellant was thus denied a fair trial. The judgment was only released a few days ago, so does not appear to have made its way onto BAILII. In the meantime, I have put it on a separate backdated post for those who are interested.
The facts are mundane enough, an ‘everyday’ allegation of sexual abuse made by a young female of 15. She alleged that her brother had abused her sexually from the age of 6. Then she changed her mind and said that she had got ‘justice’ since the abuse had now stopped. Then she retracted the allegation altogether.
3 different versions of the same facts.
Not surprisingly social services were involved, both on account of her tender years, and more pertinently for the ensuing court case, the fact that the brother had two young children of his own living with him.
The girl was never required to give formal evidence to a judge; the Police had judged her evidence to be so equivocal that they declined to bring charges against the brother – yet another Judge has found her allegation to be ‘proved‘ and ordered that the younger children were to live with their Mother and never again should he be allowed unsupervised contact with his own children.
A reasonable outcome had he been a dangerous paedophile and a risk to his own children – but was he? There were those three different versions of the girl’s allegations – (1) ‘he had’, (2) ‘it’s OK he’s stopped now’, (3) ‘he hadn’t’; plus several attempts to persuade the authorities to stop the proceedings. Further, according to the brother, the girl initiated contact with him at his place of work and said she wanted to put things right. She subsequently wrote to him on Facebook to say that the situation was not fair on him or anyone involved and that she wanted to help him get back home with his children. The brother, who has denied throughout that he has done anything wrong, responded as might have been expected, pointing out the consequences that her allegations had had. K said she would go to court herself and asked when the hearing was. After initial resistance, he gave her the date in June and other details. She said she would be there, but did not in fact attend.
The only evidence that the judge could make her decision on, which was done at case conference stage, was the statements provided by the Guardian now appointed to the girl, and the social worker.
The guardian reported that the girl had repeatedly asked for the proceedings to be dropped – but then at times had expressed the desire to give evidence against her brother. The Social Worker felt that if the girl was not allowed her day in court she would suffer emotional damage at some point in the future.
However, both were agreed that asking her to give oral evidence in the case was unwise, she was likely to suffer psychological damage. She had originally told them of two friends that she had told of the abuse to corroborate her story. Now it emerged that both friends were ‘suffering psychological harm and distress’ at the prospect of being called as witnesses.
The Judge decided that the dangers to these three vulnerable girls outweighed the value of what could turn out to be conflicting evidence.
Overall, I have taken the view that K should not be required to give oral evidence for the reasons that I have outlined. Most particularly, I am not sure that it will assist the court very greatly, whether she maintains the allegations or denies them, but I am sure from the evidence that has been given that it will cause emotional harm to K, who is vulnerable in any event. In those circumstances, I do not take the view it is appropriate to take the exceptional course of requiring an unwilling young person to give oral evidence before the court.
Which is more important – the safety of four young children who may be in the hands of a paedophile? The welfare of a vulnerable young girl who may be irretrievably damaged by being required to give oral evidence against her brother? Or the brother’s Article 6 rights to a fair trial and in particular being given the chance to rebut the allegations made against him and possibly maintain normal contact with his own children?
It will not surprise you that the brother appealed against the judgment finding him guilty of abuse under these circumstances.
He lost.
I won’t fry your brains with the particular summaries except for the dissenting judgment of Gloster LJ.
‘This was a case that cried out for special measures so as to ensure that the judge received direct evidence from K in relation to the allegations, and, in particular, her retraction of them, and was not forced to rely on the very unsatisfactory secondary evidence of the social worker and the Guardian as to their interpretation of K’s evidence. In my judgment some sort of measure should have been in place to ensure that the judge heard directly from K on the fact-finding hearing’.
Further, Gloster LJ felt that in the absence of any opportunity to rebut the allegations that HHJ Moir who had originally pronounced the allegations proved, had not been entitled to do so.
Those of you interested in learning how the three judges arrived at their decision will find the full transcript here.
Every case will turn on its facts – but this case sets a worrying precedent that will have serious repercussions.
How comfortable do you feel with this decision?
Happy to leave two very young children at risk in the name of the right to fair trial? Prefer to force a young girl into court in the face of evidence that it will damage her, to decide which of the three versions is the truth? Or label a man a paedophile, deny him a normal relationship with his children as the lesser of all evils?
It’s a tough one.
- Joe Public
February 23, 2016 at 3:18 pm -
Hi Anna
“Those of you interested in learning how the three judges arrived at their decision will find the full transcript here.”
Link missing.
- Joe Public
February 23, 2016 at 3:19 pm -
Ignore above. I’m a slow reader & typist. Link subsequently added.
- Joe Public
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 23, 2016 at 3:40 pm -
Hopefully the brother will be able to take it before those dastardly, sovereignty abusing, furrin Judges.
- Bandini
February 23, 2016 at 4:00 pm -
I genuinely can’t see how any ‘damage’ or ’emotional harm’ caused by having her give evidence might justify denying someone the right to a fair trial (and the possible ‘damage’ and ’emotional harm’ inflicted upon not only the defendant but also his own children too).
- Mudplugger
February 23, 2016 at 4:02 pm -
In my (non-legal ) view, I’m with Gloster LJ – she’s at least 15 years old and has already proved capable of making formal statements, if she declines to back those up by appearing to give evidence in person, then the case should not proceed. It should be up to the court to evaluate her evidence, not random social workers or Guardians, who then pass on their interpretation of it.
- acousticvillage
February 23, 2016 at 4:03 pm -
Hard cases make bad law. There will always be situations where a victim is coerced into retracting a statement. There will always be crazy and weird families who have their own laws and customs. There will always be delinquents.
However probable, or likely, or possible, however hard it is on the individual victim at times, I cannot see any way that the law can safeguard the general population and permit ordinary people a fair trial if exceptional cases are simply used to deny another individual of his or her rights. - thelastfurlong
February 23, 2016 at 4:11 pm -
I’m always cautious about all this sort of stuff. I know a teacher in Switzerland, close to retirement, an upstanding and respected head, who had an allegation made against him. It is an unbelievably vicious thing to do. It caused grievous damage and emotional trauma. The case was eventually thrown out – the girl admitted she’d “made it up” to punish him. But it all took years. The girl who made it up was punished? Not that I know of. She is still anonymous.
Those who “make things up” should be punished. Otherwise how do you stop it? Children now are not half as naive as we were. Yet we treat them as delicate creatures, which sometimes they are not!
We have made the young generation aware of abuses that my own generation had no idea about. Unless you were the one being abused that is. It happened. It happens. I feel surprised at the focus nowadays on sexual abuse, only because it was not something us older folks were aware of generally.
But what about those young people who lie? There is something very odd about this case. I read the whole transcript. Any person charged with a crime should be able to defend himself and his accuser should BE there. Taking away a man’s children is serious punishment – for an unproven “crime”.
Quote from K “I don’t feel like my point has been put across and that I have been listened to. I told them I wanted it dropped. My best interests are that I didn’t want this to carry on in the way that it did. Fifteen months is a hell of a long time. There is nothing else I want to say. I am sick of it now. It is never ending.”
Well, she WAS listened to with the full force of Law.
Children/young people have no idea how unstoppable the Law is once it is in gear. And that you can’t just “change your mind”.
I feel sorry for it all. Their lives must have been ruined – all of them. Forever.What if the courts, social workers, judges and Law were not so aggressive in proceeding? Would the whole thing have been smoothed out with less emotional damage via Facebook?
Just wondering.
- windsock
February 23, 2016 at 5:37 pm -
I’m with Mudplugger – if she can make the allegations, she can appear in court. Sorry to sound harsh here, but it would appear she’s already psychologically damaged in one way or another, so I don’t see how a court appearance to establish truth and closure could make her feel worse.
- Bandini
February 23, 2016 at 6:11 pm -
Neither were K’s two friends up to giving evidence: “She [Judge Moir] was also entitled to consider the adverse effect that the proceedings had had on them so far and the stress that would be involved in giving evidence.” – Lady Justice Black.
Stress, emotions, discomfort… wrap ’em up in cotton wool. Lady Justice Gloster didn’t think the friends’ evidence would have amounted to much anyway (“…such evidence was clearly hearsay and should have been afforded very little evidential weight, since, in all the circumstances, it could have provided very little corroborative support for K’s own evidence”) but would have granted the appeal, if she were able:
“I would allow the appeal and set aside the findings of HHJ Moir. I would rule that no findings adverse to the Appellant in relation to the allegations of sexual abuse could properly be made on the evidence available to the judge. But since Black and Vos LJJ consider that the appeal should be dismissed, that will be the order of this court.”
So that’s that, then? If the bloke is innocent he’ll spend the rest of his life reading Gloster’s conclusions, wondering at the arbitrariness of the system that has him in its claws. What a mess.
- windsock
February 23, 2016 at 6:20 pm -
Showing my ignorance here – not the first time – but if the two “witnesses* evidence was only hearsay, would that not have been established at a pre-hearing case conference and it would have been established there would be no need for them to attend court?
- Bandini
February 23, 2016 at 6:28 pm -
You show me yours, and I’ll show you mine: I have no idea!
As I read it the appellant wanted them questioned as they had supposedly been told by K of the abuse she claimed to have been suffering (as early as 2006 in one case, and before telling the authorities in both). I was surprised to see this described as ‘hearsay’, but am drowning in ignorance here!
- Bandini
- windsock
- Bandini
- Ho Hum
February 23, 2016 at 5:58 pm -
Having read it all, the thing that bothered me most was that the initial judgement, at least insofar as it was referred to in the appeal judges determinations, seemed to be saying that it didn’t really matter one way or another if the girl making the allegations had come to the court or not, as nothing that she might say then would influence the judgement at all, therefore ‘guilt’ appears as having almost been pre-determined.
The weighting of the appeal on matters of process is also a bit concerning. Of course, if 2 out of 3 appeal judges say that there was ‘No Goal!’, and them’s the rules, we all then know that there was no goal, don’t we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoCSmLj3ms
- Jeremy Poynton
February 24, 2016 at 3:33 pm -
YouTube video – ah yes. Special rules used to apply at Old Trafford, did they not?
- Jeremy Poynton
- Bill Sticker
February 23, 2016 at 6:09 pm -
“Why” the judge asked, “Make up allegations that you think no one would believe?”
Methinks the judge in question has never raised children.
- Bandini
February 23, 2016 at 6:21 pm -
I’m not suggesting this is relevant to the case in question but I know that the landlady has raised the idea before of allegations being made against X (probably a celeb) when the culprit may have been Y (not a celeb). I was reading some of Liz Kelly’s voluminous output the other day & came upon something which adds weight to this idea of ‘transference’:
“… Jordan’s work adds a further layer to our understanding.
She highlights two additional categories of cases which are designated false reports, but which are
more complex. The first involves women who are in severe distress concerning previous victimisation;
the rape complaint represents a, albeit convoluted, way of gaining some recognition for their sense of
violation.”https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/cjji/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/04/Rapelitrev.pdf
- Bill Sticker
February 23, 2016 at 9:13 pm -
Bandini, regarding K’s behaviour as indicated by the Judges transcript, there’s also the case that K may have suffered from a periodic medical condition that would create the anal damage observed by Dr Jones and cause an electrolyte imbalance which would compromise her mental faculties. The effects would be very hard to pin down, unless K had been taken to a Doctor within 24 hours of the damage occurring and a DNA swab taken to confirm if there had indeed been some form of physical abuse.
Relying on accusation alone, especially from a minor who later tries to retract the allegation, would seem to be a guarantee of an unsafe conviction. One of my daughters works in the family court system, and tells me this sort of thing is all too common and compounded by the laws of cock up. Often by the prosecution. Clearly the current standards and procedures are inadequate when faced by the ‘urban myths’ surrounding sexual assault. Evidence gathering has to be seen to be effective and speedy in order to ensure the safety of any subsequent conviction. This would cut down the ‘wastage’ between reported assaults and convictions.
- Bandini
February 24, 2016 at 12:08 pm -
The whole business of the, er, anus is bizarre.
The complainant, K, never alleged that she was anally abused – the doctor thought he’d found evidence of it when looking for signs of vaginal abuse (which HAD been alleged, and for which nothing much was found). Nevertheless, the bottom-based evidence was accepted by the original Judge Moir.
The three judges deciding whether or not an appeal should be granted were unanimous in rejecting Moir’s (the original judge) findings:
Black – “I should say immediately that the appeal must, in my view, be allowed to the limited extent that the judge’s findings of anal abuse should be discharged. There was no complaint of anal abuse by K and the medical evidence was insufficient to found a finding of it. Miss Langdale QC for the local authority conceded that in the circumstances it was difficult to sustain the finding. Mr Stonor QC for the guardian did not seek to support the anal findings either. ”
Gloster – ” That concern is aggravated by the fact that, as my Lady, Lady Justice Black, has held (and as I agree) there was no basis for HHJ Moir’s finding that the Appellant had anally abused K.”
Vos – “I agree with the reasoning and conclusions reached by Lady Justice Black and would, save in the single respect she mentions, dismiss the father’s appeal.”
If the father were NOT innocent then the grandmother of K would likely have been exerting an influence over her (K) so that she retracted/changed her evidence – perverting the course of justice, I would have thought. It’s to say, there are good reasons for questioning the witnesses which go beyond the ‘mere’ right to a fair trial of the father (K’s brother) as if he WERE guilty I’d be as concerned for the grandmother’s household (other children present?) as I would be for what goes on in his own.
A really unsatisfactory ‘result’ all round.
- Sad Lassie
February 24, 2016 at 2:24 pm -
Surely the injury must have occurred to the joint in K’s arm, and the problem is that neither she, nor any other judges, can tell the difference between her arse and her elbow!
- Sad Lassie
- Bandini
- Bill Sticker
- Bandini
- Margaret Jervis
February 23, 2016 at 8:00 pm -
Having only skimmed the case it seems to me that the bottom fell out of the case and the rest is bollocks.
- Johnnydub
February 24, 2016 at 9:24 am -
For me this is a manifestation of a larger issue.
Feminists are always whining that the numbers for rape convictions are so low. Yet a large part of this is jury’s needs to be absolutely convinced that something happened as per the allegation as everyone knows false allegations are rife. i.e. the volume of false allegations “raises the bar” on convictions.
So if feminists want to “lower the bar” on convictions they need to reduce the number of false allegations.
Thus if anyone is proved to have made a false allegation with malice, they should face the same sentence had their intended victim been sentenced.
Does this make sense, or is this more “arbitrary” justice?
- Sad Lassie
February 24, 2016 at 10:36 am -
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment about false allegations with malice, but in this case the brother has not been imprisoned, he has had his children removed and a large part of his life ruined, and there is no way to inflict that on the sister. Moreover, in the view of the first trial judge, and two of the appeal court judges, it was not a false allegation, malice or not. There was evidence enough to ruin the brother, but not to convict him of any offence that would have put him in prison. It is nonsensical to a layman. One cannot help but consider Mr Bumble’s quandary, viz:
“It was all Mrs. Bumble. She would do it,” urged Mr. Bumble; first looking round, to ascertain that his partner had left the room.
That is no excuse,” returned Mr. Brownlow. “You were present on the occasion of the destruction of these trinkets, and, indeed, are the more guilty of the two, in the eye of the law; for the law supposes that your wife acts under your direction.”
If the law supposes that,” said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, “the law is a ass — a idiot. If that’s the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is, that his eye may be opened by experience — by experience.”
Unfortunately, the law is not a batchelor, the law is an ardent feminist who believes that all men are rapists, child abusers and … well, words fail me … but it is most definitely an ass.
It is clearly a dysfunctional family, for what were the parents doing while all this was going on? Surely the girl, aged 6, did not schlepp her anal problems to the doctor all on her own?
And despite all this, and she has an intact hymen? At 15? Clearly she doesn’t live in a town with a preponderance of adherents to the religion of Peace!
- windsock
February 24, 2016 at 10:43 am -
I have been told by a good Jewish lady friend of mine that anal sex is often practised outside of marriage precisely so the hymen can remain intact, for reasons of proof of fatherhood, lineage, inheritance etc. As double insurance for all that, Jewishness is passed matrilineally.
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 24, 2016 at 10:51 am -
In many arab and extreme ‘catholic’ (mafia princesses etc) cultures too….the anal sex thing I mean, not the matrilineal.
- The Blocked Dwarf
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 24, 2016 at 10:49 am -
And despite all this, and she has an intact hymen? At 15? Clearly she doesn’t live in Norfolk
*edited for accuracy (remember it was her brother not her ‘boyfriend’).
- Sad Lassie
February 24, 2016 at 2:22 pm -
Dwarf,
I had to hold myself in check against saying Norfolk, having nothing against, as well as no experience of, either incest or bum sex. I am told that the latter helps shield against piles and anal fissures, although that I find difficult to believe, although the general looseness of the sphincter allegedly improves blood flow and thus healing. According to a homosexual acquaintance of mine, it is helpful in prevention of later problems with the prostate to be on the receiving end, but without clinical studies and the pronouncements of NICE, perhaps I’ll leave that one in the realms of hearsay! (And you need to actually have a prostate for it to work!)
As a Norfolkian, perhaps you could help with the benefits of ‘keeping it in the family’? There must be some: did the bearded one write it in his bookie wookie?
- Ho Hum
February 24, 2016 at 2:50 pm -
I never cease to be intrigued by what I can learn from posts on this blog. My knowledge of Loose Sphincters has increased one hundredfold! Whatever outpourings will follow next …
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 24, 2016 at 2:57 pm -
As a Norfolkian,
thaa’ss fightin’ talk , yew do! I am soooo NOT a Norfucker! I was born just before the Ice Wall, that separates England from the barren Northern Wastelands, in Bletchley. True my mother’s clan can trace their webfootedness back to 15-something..if they could count that far and it is also true I have been cruelly imprisoned here , in the Culinary and Intellectual Diaspora, for far too many years.
As to the question of Norfolk and incest, I remind you that the Norfolk word for ‘girl’ is ‘Mawther’ (‘Mother’), which tells you all you need to know about how Norfolkers spend those long dark dank Summer nights.
- Sad Lassie
February 24, 2016 at 3:48 pm -
No insult intended to you. My knowledge of things Norfolkian is limited to their alleged web fingers and toes, with the merest hint that this came from inbreeding. If there were truth in that conjecture, then one’s curry would be served by a web-fingered personage, but no, they do have opposable thumbs as well as an absence of webbing.
As for the anal sphincter, may I recommend: http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/bob.html, but only if you wish to laugh at another poor soul’s discomforture? It may clarify the alleged benefits of looseness of said organ, particularly with the medical treatment referred to as ‘violent anal dilation’ (Jeez, talk about quackery) although apparently the application of ointment containing TNT (seriously!) helps, providing one can bear the headaches it induces and can keep one’s chocolate starfish away from naked flames!
Wikipedia tells me that the Latin name for ring, viz. ‘anus’, was so debauched by its alternate colloquial usage that the Romans had to coin another word ‘annulus’ for the original ‘ring’, so the problem of linguistic creep have been with us for millennia.
- Ho Hum
February 24, 2016 at 4:42 pm -
So easier piles means less piles?
You’ve got to send this to NICE for their Sierra Hotel list
- Ho Hum
- Sad Lassie
- Ho Hum
- Sad Lassie
- windsock
- Sad Lassie
- JonD
February 24, 2016 at 10:07 am -
It has become very common to regard people that have some experience in a field as being an expert in that field. The news media are particularly guilty of this, presumably because pretty much anyone that actually knows something must look like an expert from the know-nothing standpoint of most news reporters. It is surprising, however, to see an experienced judge falling into that error; accepting evidence from the social worker and guardian that should only properly have been accepted from someone with demonstrable expertise.
- Cloudberry
February 24, 2016 at 11:22 am -
“The news media are particularly guilty of this, presumably because pretty much anyone that actually knows something must look like an expert from the know-nothing standpoint of most news reporters.”
That is very true. A couple of years ago, I was astounded to see representatives of a self-described financial advisory company that fleeces money from its clients but is very good at self-promotion being interviewed on several BBC radio and TV programmes as tax and investment experts. A lengthy e-mail fired off to all and sundry at the BBC thankfully seemed to put a stop it, but it left me wondering about the quality of other experts interviewed by the media.- Jeremy Poynton
February 24, 2016 at 2:16 pm -
Ah, yes, the BBC’s “experts”. All you need is some minor post that the University of Somewhere on the Edge of a Famous City (formerly a CFE), and BANG! There’s your expert.
- Jeremy Poynton
- Cloudberry
- Andrew Duffin
February 24, 2016 at 11:21 am -
I take a firmly principled view of things like this.
He’s not been convicted, therefore he’s innocent, therefore no sanctions against him can be justified. End of. Least of all the destruction of his family.
Any other approach leads to nightmares like this.
ymmv.
- Jeremy Poynton
February 24, 2016 at 2:15 pm -
Family courts. I know two people who have both got what they were due, but were fucked over for in once case, four years and c£100,000 and the other for two years. Both were the responsible parents, both had clear evidence of the utter wastrels their ex-partners were, and how damaging they were when the child involved had to stay with them. In one case, the child had clearly been assaulted by the ex-partner’s new wife. The poor kids had to deal with this when a) far too young & b) for far too long. Case 1, the judge ordered the wastrel parent not to drink when his kid was around – and then allowed him to have the child delivered to a pub for him to look after for a few days. Uh?
When I add to that my own small experience of the court system, when I got screwed by a judge who I think did not even read the reams of evidence I had regarding the case, I have no faith whatosever in the legal system. To precis, it’s fucked.
- patently
February 24, 2016 at 2:28 pm -
“Happy to leave two very young children at risk in the name of the right to fair trial? Prefer to force a young girl into court in the face of evidence that it will damage her, to decide which of the three versions is the truth? Or label a man a paedophile, deny him a normal relationship with his children as the lesser of all evils?”
It is indeed a tough one. That’s why we have trials – so that the truth (or the best approximation we can get to it) is uncovered.
- Sad Lassie
February 24, 2016 at 2:28 pm -
Sometimes I’m astonished but how rare murder is. We truly are a very restrained folk in these islands.
- Ho Hum
February 24, 2016 at 2:44 pm -
They’re all covered up by the elites! You’re not keeping up with the programme, are you?
- Ho Hum
- Rocky Racoon
February 25, 2016 at 7:08 am -
Hope you mind if I put this here…Sylvia Edwards an audience member on Top of The Pops seen leaping up in the air next to Jimmy Savile has just been on ITV’s Good Morning programme (just after 6:30am). She was asked if Savile put his hand inside her clothes, to which she replied she was wearing trousers indicating he did not put his trousers inside. Which it is at odds with what she has previously claimed that he put his hand up her skirt, no wonder she was told to get lost.
“Millions of BBC viewers saw Savile put his hand up the then 18-year-old’s skirt during an episode of Top of the Pops on November 25, 1976.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4612576/Millions-watched-as-Jimmy-Savile-molested-me-on-tv.html
‘A video clip has preserved the shocking moment when the laughing pervert put his hand up horrified Sylvia Edwards’ skirt — as 20 million viewers watched the live show.Speaking for the first time about the ordeal, Sylvia told The Sun: “I felt his fingers go towards my bottom. It was disgusting.”
The 55-year-old mum of two recalled: “Jimmy Savile appeared in the middle of us and the camera panned around.
“Then I felt his hand go up my skirt. I leapt off my chair in shock. I was so surprised I cried out and didn’t know how to deal with it.
She said: “There was a man standing next to a camera with headphones on who seemed to be running the show, so I went up to him and told him Jimmy Savile had just put his hand up my skirt.
“But he was very cross and told me to get lost. He said it was just Jimmy messing about and I was being stupid. ”
I wonder what version Dame Janet Smith received.
- Rocky Racoon
February 25, 2016 at 10:13 am -
From the Dame Janet Review “B8″…
“The second complaint by a person from outside the BBC was made on 24 November 1976 when B8 attended Top of the Pops (see paragraphs 5.183-5.185 and 5.356 of my Report). She was asked to sit on some staging on a podium. Savile appeared beside her and started talking to the camera. She felt Savile’s hand going underneath her bottom. She was shocked and leapt in the air and, as she came down, his hand was underneath her, “fiddling” with her. She was able to move away and went to speak to a BBC employee (a man with earphones). She told him what had happened. He told her not to worry; it was “just Jimmy Savile mucking about”. When she remonstrated, he told her to move out of the way as they were trying to move the camera. He should have reported the complaint to his manager or to the producer of the programme and recorded it in a log. It appears that he did neither and that the complaint was completely ignored.”
- Bandini
February 25, 2016 at 11:17 am -
“Sylvia, who partly blames the breakdown of her marriage on her ordeal…”
- Rocky Racoon
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