Starr Wars.
Monday, I managed to slip loose from the protective cordon that has been thrown around me – “for my own good” – and take the train down to London. It has been frustrating sitting here, behaving myself, whilst the Starr v Ward libel case played out in the Royal Courts of Justice.
It was the words, spoken and/or implied, by Karin Ward that became the foundation stone of the tottering edifice we know as ‘Operation Yewtree’. Contrary to popular belief, Karin never appeared in the infamous ‘Exposure’ programme that led to a mad clamour of allegations regarding Jimmy Savile. Yet without Karin Ward, that programme would never have been made. If you are not up to speed on that, start reading here, and come back in a month or so when you’ve caught up!
I had been getting regular reports as to the goings on in court – not from the media, who arrived to report on the initial lurid allegations, but haven’t been seen or heard of since. Pesky details like someone proving that ‘x’ allegation simply couldn’t be true, are just soooo boring to your modern media man.
I was intrigued to hear that part of the proceedings had included a line by line reading of my ‘Savilisation’ blogs – to the point that Mr Justice Nicol had said ‘we’ve heard quite enough about Jimmy Savile’ – quite, the current case is concerning what Karin Ward said about Freddie Starr…even so, I shall be framing the transcript when I get it. Not often a blogger gets to feature in a High Court libel case without being sued themselves!
I’m not going to discuss what was said in the court before Monday until I have the transcript – I wasn’t there and my notes have come second hand; in a libel trial where every word counts, it would not be right to do so. That may be doubly frustrating for you – because by order of Mr Justice Nicol, some of what occurred on Monday I cannot tell you.
Monday was of particular interest to me, because the one and only witness speaking in support of Karin Ward who was allegedly at the infamous Clunk-click filming when Freddie Starr was appearing was due to appear. I have long been aware of the names of the girls on that trip, and was as interested to see who was speaking up to support Karin’s allegations as I was to be able to discern who wasn’t prepared to speak up.
I can’t give you the name of the one girl who was prepared to speak to Karin’s version of events – not because she has anonymity by virtue of being a victim of sexual abuse, but because of lengthy legal wrangling, and the intervention of Mr Bunting, a barrister who was working pro bono, on her behalf. She wanted anonymity because:
1. These events took place 41 years ago, she was now employed, her life had changed, and her children and grandchildren didn’t know of her past as a ‘Duncroft girl’.
2. She feared she would be subject to harassment on social media.
3. Weighing Article 8 against Article 10 – the right to a private and family life versus freedom of expression.
4. Proportionality.
5. The knowledge that the media will continue to report indefinitely should she be named in open court for having done her civic duty by giving evidence.
It was stated that this witness was not prepared to co-operate willingly, and had been subpoenaed to appear.
Powerful arguments as to why section 39.24 of the Court procedure rules should be invoked to protect her identity. The court thus ruled that she should only be identified as Miss ‘C’.
You must be agog to hear what exceptional revelations Miss ‘C’ had to make that the court, and Karin Ward’s solicitor-advocate (it is noticeable that neither party is using a barrister in this case) should go to so much trouble to protect her?
Hold onto your seats.
Miss ‘C’, Karin Ward’s sole contemporary witness and supporter, “Doesn’t recollect anything in particular”. In fact her memory is “Quite hazy”.
She explained that she was not present in the famous picture of the ‘Freddie Starr appearance (the ‘bean bag’ photograph) “because she was in the audience”. She didn’t explain why.
She confirmed that she was only present on ONE trip to Clunk-click. However, she ‘did not recollect’ the name of the show.
She “doesn’t recall” Gary Glitter being on that show.
She doesn’t recall “How many went to that show”.
She doesn’t recall “which girls” went to that show.
In fact she “wasn’t sure” whether Freddie was there. Leading Mr Dunham to comment that there seemed to be a lot that she didn’t recall. Her response was “Not a lot, No”.
However, there was one detail of which Miss ‘C’ was abundantly clear. Despite having given evidence that she ‘had never asked a celebrity for an autograph’, she told how she was ‘standing in a doorway with another girl’ – neither the girl nor the doorway, nor the occasion was identified – when Freddie Starr came to the door. She asked him ‘for something to remind her of the trip’.
He said -‘You can have a lock of my hair’. Put his hand down his trousers and produced a pubic hair. She said “I thought ugh!”. Then he disappeared. She stated that Jimmy Savile was in the room at the time.
I do have e-mails written by Miss ‘C’ stating that she did not witness any abuse of Karin Ward, but obviously cannot now release them since that might identify her. Since I am also aware that Mr Price has the same e-mails I am slightly bemused as to why he went to so much trouble to introduce her evidence. There were at least three other Duncroft girls who he could have called in evidence, and it is impossible to believe that he couldn’t trace them since they have all been prolific on social media and in forums, including the shy Miss ‘C’.
Another girl on that trip to Clunk-Click was, of course, Susan. All of the reasons advanced above in favour of anonymity even for people who were not sexually abused applies to her – but no such protection was afforded to her. I continue to hold her bravery and sense of civic duty in high regard.
Susan gave evidence for five solid hours. A large part of that time was expended on taking her through a line by line reading of my blog posts – posts that related to Savile – eventually Mr Justice Nicol said ‘we’ve had quite enough of Jimmy Savile’ and reminded Karin Ward’s solicitor-advocate that this trial concerned the comments his client had made about Freddie Starr.
Not before David Price, said solicitor-advocate, had entered onto the court records my married name, rather than my maiden name which I use for professional purposes as the author of the Anna Raccoon blogs. I understand that yesterday he also identified me as having been sitting in court on Monday – for what reason I do not know. Perhaps he was mindful of the noisy group of ‘CSA’ activists who were clustered outside court taking photographs of everyone leaving the court.
I further understand that yesterday he also labelled me a ‘Savile Denier’ – notwithstanding that I was not a witness in court and have no right of reply nor to qualify that comment by saying that I have only decried those claims which I personally knew to be untrue – the claims prior to 1974 which Operation Outreach has now confirmed could not have occurred.
There is a lot of further evidence to be digested, but that will do as a first dispatch from the murky trenches. For the benefit of doubt, Freddie Starr was not in court, nor were there any journalists in the press box. Apparently both parties had decided to spare themselves the agony of listening to Mr David Price speaking for eight solid hours trying to score points, an experience akin to watching your pet tortoise mate with a reluctant female.
I realise that the many Duncroft girls who read this blog will quickly figure out who the hapless witness ‘C’ is – any attempt to name her will result in your comment disappearing into cyberspace without ever appearing in public. I have set the spam filter with her name as a swear word.
- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 9:17 am -
One thing that has not been mentioned so far is the complicity of the legal system in all of this. The reason Ms.Ward never made the Exposure Show is quite simple. Freddie had an injunction from the courts at that point in time. This probably explains why the actual Exposure show was almost anodyne in comparison with all stories that had appeared in the mass media prior to October 3rd. That injunction was overturned a day or so after Exposure had been broadcast. So far as I can make out, that overturn was primarily made on the premise of “public interest”, but it was immediately followed by Channel 4 broadcasting BBC Archive footage of Clunk-Click that could only have been supplied by someone with BBC access. This thing has more “angles” than a rhombicosidodecahedron.
- The Blocked Dwarf
June 24, 2015 at 9:19 am -
but that will do as a first dispatch from the murky trenches
You, Girl, are an awful tease….
No, of course you’re not. One of the many things that I and others so respect about your reporting is that you stick doggedly (raccoonerly?) to The Rules….when others don’t.
- stephen lewis
June 24, 2015 at 9:24 am -
I had noticed that information regarding this case was noticeable by it’s absence. It’s the most telling thing about media control that when the shoe was on the other foot the media were making daily stories about it for a public eager to feast on innuendo and assumption.
- windsock
June 24, 2015 at 9:29 am -
Just when you think the law cannot look more like a donkey, someone from the legal profession uses the term ‘Savile Denier’ in open court. Who knew alleged victims of Savile were up there with those of the Holocaust? The Top Trumps of piety are too complicated for me.
- Joe Public
June 24, 2015 at 12:06 pm -
The implication of the perjorative ‘denier’ has been deliberately diluted by its application to the millions / hundreds of millions who dispute the wilder predictions of (catastrophic) anthropogenic global warming & climate change computer programs.
Even the Oxford Dictionary has been updated.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/denier
- Joe Public
- Misa
June 24, 2015 at 9:39 am -
Presumably, a Savile denier is one better than ultra sheer. Indecently translucent?
- The Blocked Dwarf
June 24, 2015 at 9:53 am -
That wins the coveted “Dwarf snorks coffee and snot over laptop screen” prize of the day. Mind you, I share Windy’s disgust at labeling people
“Christ Killers”“Savile Deniers”.- Misa
June 24, 2015 at 10:16 am -
Humbled, dear Dwarf. I’m not likely to achieve more than that today, so I think I’ll open a beer.
I too am disgusted, but having read ‘scarcely credible’ reports about a man ‘hiding in plain sight’, I’m not surprised.
- Misa
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Alexander Baron
June 24, 2015 at 10:30 am -
Same old story, media fantasies exposed by court testimony as bland truth, but will it make any difference?
No one appears to have mentioned the fake Surrey Police letter, but there is more than enough fake everything else to go around.
- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 10:33 am -
Ms.Ward had nothing to do with the 2008 shenanigan, so was never involved with Surrey Police.
Silo Management of the news will of course keep all discussion limited, so in that sense none of this will make much difference – except to Freddie Starr, but since all this has literally cost him his home, his wife and his child, perhaps his is the only truth that matters just now.
- Jonathan
June 24, 2015 at 12:33 pm -
Ah yes that fake Surrey Police letter. That’s a massive story bursting to emerge. Who gave the forger the old letter heading? Somebody who was once a Surrey Police person, perhaps? Meanwhile Alexander, how about rewriting your awful record reviews?
- Jonathan
- Moor Larkin
- Chris
June 24, 2015 at 10:34 am -
I imagine the transcripts to all of the post-Yewtree trials include all the “buzzwords” from the CSA lunatic asylum – Price is following in the footsteps of the likes of Miranda Moore (who repeatedly assured the DLT jurors that the BBC was a proven hotbed of sexual abuse & debauchery, with the British Public of the time regularly watching broadcast ‘assaults’ and that somehow running order of the acts on editions would support this!).
It’s true that “Jimmy Savile” and “Top Of The Pops” are being regularly thrown into non-celebrity historic trials too – the “victims” often recounting that dirty deeds were done whilst TOTP was on. Not that I’m getting cynical about it all….- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 10:49 am -
The lack of any rigour was never writ so plain as when internet trickster “Susan Markham” ended up being quoted in the Daily Mirror as if it was an actual person, telling an actual story. I’m convinced some of the Yewtree victims that remained anonymous because the person was never heard from again, were just idle pranksters, who were probably scared to death when they realised their bullshit was being taken seriously.
“JIMMY Savile’s own brother told charity workers to beware of him and even warned: “He’s a dirty little s***.” Johnny Savile, who died in 1997, once told social worker Susan Markham he was so disgusted by his younger brother that he refused to have anything to do with him.
COPYRIGHT 2013 MGN LTDSusan is an internet game, as much as a fantasy. The man pretending to be Susan even told everyone who he was before he started making his “funny” forum posts. Maybe he would be thought of as an internet Anarchist in some circles. The point was, the Daily Mirror transformed his fantasy-fun into “mainstream news”.
Susan Markham’s comment 29-Sep-2012 7:08 pm
Hello Chums Firstly I would just like to say “Hello” and that I am definitely not a female! No – not me…. I have got ‘bits’ that girls don’t have. I understand cricket, I fart in bed, urinate standing up (on any available surface) I go “Corrr…” at a sight of a ‘hot-totty’s’ legs and everything else that boys do. My name is Bob ”
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/masked-men.html- Diplobrat
June 24, 2015 at 1:28 pm -
According to someone, Dan Davies, I think, Jimmy and Johnny Savile were estranged for some years after Johnny lost his job at Springfield.
- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 3:42 pm -
But his story makes no sense because within the same story he says the NotW phoned Jimmy about Johnny and Jimmy is quoted as replying, “It’ll take more than the news of the World to come between me and my brother.” and Jimmy put the phone down. I can say that I did not speak to my brother for fourteen years; and I never fell out with him once; how’s about that then?
- Moor Larkin
- alan1803
June 24, 2015 at 5:13 pm -
Similarly see the way in which in the last few days Emil Kaminski managed to fool most of the world’s press that he was one of the Malaysian naked mountaineers. The Daily Mirror and the Torygraph both printed pieces as gospel in which he praised the wi-fi connection in his cell. Wi-fi. In a cell. In prison. In Malaysia.
- Anon
June 24, 2015 at 7:56 pm -
Jimmy loved his brother, there were times of disquiet and a small amount of jealousy, but they were there for each other – just two ordinary brothers!
- Anon
- Diplobrat
- Moor Larkin
- Jaundiced View
June 24, 2015 at 11:22 am -
And, check KingOfHits 2 years ago.
NB: JV was then, both ‘WholeTruth’ and ‘ZeroTolerance’.
http://www.kingofhits.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=65&func=view&catid=2&id=98817
- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 11:56 am -
If you posted like that in here, I’d be an avid reader…
- The Blocked Dwarf
June 24, 2015 at 6:35 pm -
Indeed…and it makes me wonder what happened to him in the last couple of years because there is a ‘Norfolk Mile’ difference between the posts back then and his recent ones here.
(BTW a ‘Norfolk Mile’ goes back to the time of the Black Death and later the Enclosures Act. Here in Norfolk you will often find a road sign informing you that the village of, say, Upper Nosebleed is but one mile distant…which turns out to be about 3 miles).
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Moor Larkin
- DtP
June 24, 2015 at 12:34 pm -
Crikey – blogging the high court – kudos! I used to be a half arsed Conservative Party Returning Officer and Caucus Sec and my notes of my minutes got used in a high court libel case. I didn’t exactly go in for SB said and JS retorted but more like Numbnuts blethered and Shitstain bullshitted!! Fortunately, i’d left by that stage but it was pretty embarrasing!
All power to your elbow, Mizz Raccoon, or rather joint above your front paw xx
- Chris
June 24, 2015 at 12:54 pm -
Urgh. That slimeball Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 is currently interview “The Detectives” and on about how “victims must be believed”.
Is there anything worse than The Liberal Elite intellectualising their Jeremy Kylisation of Society by insidious police state propaganda?- adrianS
June 24, 2015 at 4:08 pm -
Vine is a slime, off course if someone alleged something about him, you would see the whole left wing machine coming into support him.
It’s a bit like Julian Assange, he is alleged to have committed sex crimes, but it was quite unfair for him to go back to Sweden to sort it out.
Now imagine what would happen if it were a footballer that the allegations had been made about - The Blocked Dwarf
June 24, 2015 at 6:23 pm -
Is there anything worse than The Liberal Elite intellectualising their Jeremy Kylisation of Society by insidious police state propaganda?
No. Next question? (and I shall be 1/2″ing that sentence of yours…’Kylisation’ *Hah!* ).
- adrianS
- Alex
June 24, 2015 at 3:51 pm -
Just got home after spending the day working in my dad’s garden. What an interesting post. I’m not at all surprised that the MSM only attended day 1. Is there any indication of when the judge will give a verdict? How long is the trial likely to take?
- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 4:17 pm -
* He said -‘You can have a lock of my hair’. Put his hand down his trousers and produced a pubic hair. *
A shame the judge didn’t ask Price QC himself to demonstrate that this was even humanly possible before allowing this evidence onto the record.
- Jimbob McGinty
June 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm -
Indeed. Even if it was possible, I’d imagine it would be quite fiddly and quite painful (horrible when you get a straggler or two caught doing up your fly carelessly). It would be less trouble just to knock one out, which at least would count as sexual harrassment. As far as I’m aware the on-the-spot producing and gifting of a pube is not specifically proscribed by law?
- Moor Larkin
June 24, 2015 at 5:24 pm -
I see the Male describes it as “a piece” …. it’s all getting a bit Jigsaw5 now…..
“Mr Price also questioned Starr about the evidence of another 15-year-old girl who, like Ms Ward, was a pupil of Duncroft Approved School at the time. The girl claimed that Starr gave her a piece of his pubic hair as a ‘souvenir’ of the evening.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3124943/Freddie-Starr-denies-claims-groped-teenager.html
- Moor Larkin
- The Blocked Dwarf
June 24, 2015 at 6:28 pm -
Obviously the Duncroft Senior Girls’ Common Room Sewing Bee were kept busy sewing Pube-Pouches for Celebs. I mean, a man what wore the eyeballs of the dead or what ate a hamster, surely collected every fallen pube after his morning shower inorder to pass them on as Love Tokens to his fans. Stands to reason dunnit?
- Jimbob McGinty
- Carol42
June 24, 2015 at 5:34 pm -
Thank you for keeping up with all this Anna, you restore some of the faith now lost as nothing in the media can be believed any longer. Take care.
- AtticusFlinch
June 24, 2015 at 6:26 pm -
Point of law which I came across a few months ago in front of a hugely experienced, sensible, smart and polite judge (a rarity). You aren’t allowed to make allegations against a person who is not there/party to defend themselves. He put his foot down on that hard, That may be a poor or unsophisticated statement of the law, but it made sense to me at the time. But I am not an expert. My expertise lies elsewhere. Meanwhile, we see the nonsense unravelling…
Best wishes, Boss. - Cloudberry
June 24, 2015 at 8:20 pm -
Re “tottering edifice”, if the world has enough dominos for every word you have written on this subject, it would be interesting to watch them when they finally fall.
Was just wondering there who had done the illustration at the top of your blog. It looks like the job of a professional illustrator.
- Misa
June 25, 2015 at 3:21 am -
Off topic, sorry, but just had to share this re: Janner and the charming Mr Danczuk.
The ongoing scandal further deepened this week when Labour MP Simon Danczuk used Parliamentary privilege to claim Janner had ‘violated, raped and tortured’ children inside the Houses of Parliament, molesting a nine-year-old boy, Paul Miller, at the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft in the Palace of Westminster.
Miller, who has given a signed statement to police, believes he was targeted after Janner began visiting his school, Braunstone Frith Primary, in Leicester.
He says he was then abused when the MP invited eight of its pupils to visit him at the Commons in 1969.
The Janner family — who have always proclaimed the peer’s innocence — would doubtless respond to Miller’s claims by pointing out that Janner was not elected to Parliament until 1970.“…would doubtless respond…” hahahaha.
- Peter Raite
June 25, 2015 at 2:26 pm -
A grim-faced (i.e. normal) Alison Saunders was on this BBC this morning. Even I was somewhat shocked to hear her say that there has been a recent change in the law, so that now a single – yes, just one! – “posting” counts as “internet grooming” now. Apparently it was previously “two or more,” which seems an only marginally less ludicrously low threshold.
- Moor Larkin
June 25, 2015 at 4:10 pm -
* there has been a recent change in the law *
Or did she mean a recent change in the CPS interpretation of the law… ?- Peter Raite
June 25, 2015 at 4:44 pm -
Yeah, probably that. I wonder when they’ll extend single-instance threshold to harrassment and/or stalking….?
- Ho Hum
June 26, 2015 at 2:49 am -
99.99999% of the British population, male and female, breathed a huge sigh of relief on thinking ‘Thank goodness that it would never even cross my mind to ask her out just once’
- Ho Hum
- Peter Raite
- Moor Larkin
- eric hardcastle
June 25, 2015 at 7:33 pm -
That is the new low that Britain’s tabloids have now reached : the attacks upon family members of the accused or the convicted.
They did it to Bindi Harris for supporting her father and saying he was ‘kind and generous man’. She has been derided as ‘naive’ and ‘deluded’ and ignorant about the monster she calls Dad.
They did it to Lord Brittan’s family with the inference they were cowardly burying their father secretly (ignoring that it was Jewish custom) in an unmarked grave and denying the gutter media of their pound of flesh photos at his funeral.
Now Janner’s family must be derided in similar fashion ( as above) for not aiding in the media’s interest and delivering up their dad( possible dribbling by now in his bed) for persecution and for having the temerity of accepting his property many years ago (when it was always going to be theirs) and thus depriving ambulance chasing lawyers of fat fees as they tries to decimate Janner’s estate for ‘victims” (as Liz Dux tweets that “not one Savile victim she represents was after compensation even though she adveritses that she is the sexual assault compensation specialist.
What a mad sick world is being created. - Mrs Grimble
June 25, 2015 at 10:08 pm -
He says he was then abused when the MP invited eight of its pupils to visit him at the Commons in 1969.
The Janner family — who have always proclaimed the peer’s innocence — would doubtless respond to Miller’s claims by pointing out that Janner was not elected to Parliament until 1970.
“Oh wait – did I say 1969? I meant 1970 of course! It was such a traumatising experience at the time, I’ve had terrible memory problems ever since…”- Betty
June 28, 2015 at 2:40 pm -
That’s one signed statement with zero credibility then.
Then we now have this
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lord-brittan-police-failed-to-tell-dying-peer-he-would-not-face-prosecution-despite-legal-advice-10350596.htmlLeon Brittan denied he had ever met “Jane”. Despite “Jane’s” claims about the flatmate, and her claims about being at a party with him and that this was not the only time they crossed paths, not one person could verify that he had. Well, except “Jane” of course.
Leon Brittan denied that he had ever lived in a basement flat, a fact surely easily checked by detectives.
Then, assuming that she is correct in her claim to have been at his flat, the revelation that “Jane” took her own clothes off in his bathroom and then went and laid down on his bed.
It’s no great, startling surprise that the case failed the evidence test is it. Yet another massive Exaro #fail.
What with this, and the CPS statement on the matter, it just hasn’t been Exaro’s week has it.
- Betty
- Peter Raite
- Lucozade
June 25, 2015 at 8:25 pm -
Peter Raite,
Re: “Oh, yes. I think it’s very possibly that she was touched up in 1975, and in her memory conflated the event with seeing Harris at a similar event in 1978”
And where does that leave poor Rolf Harris? What ever happened to making sure you were absolutely sure someone did something before you go bandying about accusations? Gee wiz…. :/
Was he found guilty or not guilty on that one?
- Ellen Coulson
June 26, 2015 at 2:30 pm -
Not according to an earlier draft of her book she wasn’t!
- Ellen Coulson
- Grandpa1940
June 26, 2015 at 8:40 pm -
I am reminded of the story of the Frenchman travelling on a train with an Englishman. Every so often, he would produce a small silver box from his pocket, open it, sniff deeply, then quickly close it upmand return it to his pocket. Eventually, the englishman diffidently asked “Excuse me, Monsieur, but what, might I ask, is held in that small box?”
“Ah,” the Frenchman replied, This box holds a pubic hair from my latest ‘cher amie’ my girlfriend. When I travel away from home, all I have to do is to sniff the small memory in the box, remember my love, and I can remain satisfied of my love. It is the ultimate in ‘L’amour’, Monsieur.”
The Englishman reached into his own pocket, brought out a matchbox, and offereed it to the Frenchman, saying “I have the same idea, but not so fine a box.”
The Frenchman sniffed, sniffed again; and then replied, “Very nice, Monsieur, but a little too near the arse for a Frenchman’s taste!”
- Gladiatrix
July 11, 2015 at 3:55 pm -
Re David Price
Anna, have you considered reporting Mr Price to the SRA? It seems to me that you have grounds.
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