An Open Letter to Max Hastings.
I wish I could admire you more. I admire your writing; I remember you as a reporter on 24 Hours – but I struggle when I try to admire you as a person.
It’s the way in which your principles are indivisibly directed by your personal interests, carried helplessly along by your various friendships and grudges; floundering in a moral wasteland, until rescued when found to be of use to you.
I remember when you came blustering out of your trap back in those early days of the ‘Savile saga’. You were quite happy to accept that there was ‘no doubt’ regarding ‘Savile’s paedophilia’ on the basis of an ‘unspecified allegation of a sexual nature’. You didn’t know the details, you hadn’t witnessed the event, you certainly hadn’t heard the evidence for the defence – but what Ho! You had a dog in this race, it concerned Helen Boaden, someone you had a long standing grudge against. That was sufficient for you to pen one of your long and beautifully written diatribes, denouncing ‘a corporation dominated by men and women who lack both moral compass and journalistic skills’.
Your article appeared on the same day that I started writing about my time at Duncroft. I was unsure whether to believe the allegations regarding Savile – but I was there – so however sure you were, based on gossip, rumour and innuendo, I knew without doubt that the original story could not be true. I was puzzled by your certainty about something you couldn’t possibly know for sure was true.
Yet you were one of those senior journalists that gave legs to this story, adding your authoritative voice to the growing storm – on the basis, not of fact regarding the story, but of your own personal grudge against Helen Boaden and other senior BBC management. You believed the story because you disliked someone involved in it – and thus you became one of the journalists handing out pitchforks to the waiting mob.
Now you have burst forth into print once again. You don’t know the facts regarding the allegations against Lord Bramall – they are, as were the allegations regarding Savile when you penned your last diatribe, ‘unspecified allegation of a sexual nature’ but you disbelieve them, whatever they turn out to be, based on your 40 year friendship with him.
You call it ‘sticking your neck out’, yet you have barely poked your tongue out. I could tell you more than you will ever understand about sticking your neck out – I have been head, shoulders, and full frontal, exposed to the army of #Ibelievehers, given succour by your article on Savile, and policemen saying ‘come forward, you will be believed’ – but not because he is a friend of mine, nor because I have long standing grudges against anyone involved (though I admit I have developed some healthy grudges since!) nor because I am paid handsomely to fill column inches with my pearls of wisdom – but because I truly do believe that the principles of British decency and justice should be upheld in order to protect every last one of us.
In a long emotive piece, recalling Lord Bramall’s eminent service to the nation, and the sad state of his wife’s health, you rail against the ‘outrageous witch-hunt which flies in the face of every principle of British decency and natural justice’.
A witch-hunt you were happy to add your ten pennorth to when it suited your own interests.
You say ‘None of us doubt the guilt of Jimmy Savile, whose wickedness started all this’. Really? Who do you speak for? The journalistic mafia who were happy to use Savile as a convenient method of bashing the loathed BBC?
There is ‘no doubt‘ about Savile’s guilt for whom you have never, and never will, hear the case for the defence – yet what is this? The convictions of Rolf Harris, Max Clifford and Gary Glitter ‘seem‘ proper. What strange powers of judgement you have that you can be reasonably convinced by a fair trial and a spirited defence, yet a man who has had neither trial, nor defence, nor do you know of all the allegations made – and I doubt that you have troubled yourself to read through the verbose investigations into those allegations that have been made public’ – is sufficient to leave you in no doubt.
Perhaps it is because he is dead? But then again, you are happy to mount a defence of Lord Brittan:
“But never for a moment could I, and many others who knew him, imagine the former Tory Home Secretary guilty of a sex crime, such as, last year, he was publicly accused of, and which must have haunted the last months of his life.”
Though I note that even Lord Brittan, or rather his widow, doesn’t get the full-on emotive rant against the nightmare qualities of ‘some 20 officers in white overalls entered and spent the next ten hours examining every corner and crevice’ – despite what you may read in the main stream media – it was not ‘Lord Brittan’s home’ that was thus invaded, nor the home of a Field Marshall, even at 91 able to stand up for himself – it was the home of Lady Brittan, an elderly and still grieving widow, now sadly facing alone the nightmare qualities of a Yewtree investigation, so soon after burying him. As you say – how could it be anything other than a ‘ghastly experience’.
Because although everything you say about this ‘witch-hunt’ is true:
‘we must never forget that accusations of all kinds are routinely made against prominent figures by unhinged or malicious people. The consequences for the innocent are so grave the police should think much harder than they do before launching mob-handed assaults’.
– your concern for the principles of ‘British decency and natural justice’ only apply to those people you like, dead or alive.
It seems almost incredible that in 21st-century Britain, a man or woman’s reputation can be destroyed without trial by unnamed informers.
It doesn’t seem so incredible to me – it was you, your friends, your colleagues, who were busy shouting ‘fire’ in that crowded theatre – the right to so shout you fought to hold onto when Leveson threatened to curtail it. Now you are brimming over with the injustice of finding that your friend has been trampled as the panicking mob make their way out to the pavement.
I’d have a lot more respect for you if you worried about the ‘principles of British decency and justice’ for every last citizen, and not just those who happen to be friends of yours. I’d have even more respect if you had apologised for handing out pitchforks in the first place.
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 9:10 am -
I seem to recall he was always a shit, who rode the coat-tails of the Marines entering Port Stanley.
- Alex
March 11, 2015 at 9:22 am -
Well, in some way it’s nice to see “chickens coming home to roost” – as Corporal Jones might have said “they don’t like it up ’em”. It will be very interesting to see how the CR investigations pan out. Will he be on the recieving end of a Savile like vilification? Odd, isn’t it, how people seem to automatically assume guilt when these allegations are made against one group of individuals, but are much more reticent when it comes to others? Whatever happened to the old notion of judging each case based on the real, tangible evidence?
As for journalists who pick and choose and change direction, one only has to look back at the way Diana was written about before and after her death to see what a bunch of hypocrites most of them belong to. - johnbull
March 11, 2015 at 9:37 am -
Ouch!
- English Pensioner
March 11, 2015 at 10:01 am -
What I can’t understand is exactly what the police expect to find after all these years. Incriminating photographs – unlikely before the age of the digital camera; incriminating letters – seems unlikely that any “victim” would have written to him or that he would have kept such a letter. Just what were they looking for? I don’t know about Lord Bramall, but in the case of Cliff Richard, he wasn’t even living in his present home at the time of the possible offence.
Or is it the police, having received an unsubstantiated allegation, carried the search in order to get publicity in the hope someone else might come forward? I’m highly suspicious of any allegations about things that happened all that time ago based on my own ability to recall events. Looking at important events in my own life, I can’t remember all the detail and I’d probably have to look up the exact year.
If I were on a jury dealing with such a case, I’d find it hard to believe any allegations that were not supported by some solid forensic evidence, so perhaps it’s fortunate for those bringing the cases that I’m considered to be too old for jury service!- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 10:08 am -
In the case of Jimmy Savile they seized his diaries and now have “lost” them.
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/wheres-evidence.html
In other words… getting control of whatever evidence there may be is the only priority. Once you possess all the documentation there is, you can make up any story you like and nobody can “disprove” it and if there’s any that favours the Defence they can ensure it is never seen again by anybody.- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 11:03 am -
The “loss” of the diaries is without doubt the single most disturbing aspect of the police’s handling of the Savile case, but a sadly predictable one.
- Cloudberry
March 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm -
It sounds like a cross between the Keystone Kops sketch and Laurel and Hardy. Who hid the evidence? Laurel? Hardy? Did Hardy give it to Laurel for safekeeping? Another fine mess!
- Cloudberry
- Peter Raite
- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 11:10 am -
I would hazard a guess that ultimately all the police are really looking for is an incriminating computer hard-drive. They can’t possibly expect to find anything relating to the nonce-sense historical allegations, so are probably pinning their hopes in finding a few cached naughty images that they can say involve someone underage, because they think – or want to think – they look underage.
- Frankie
March 11, 2015 at 12:10 pm -
‘…incriminating letters – seems unlikely that any “victim” would have written to him or that he would have kept such a letter.’
In the case of Rolf Harris, one of the alleged victims – a friend of Harris’s daughter had juist such a letter from him and it proved highly damaging at trial. One just never knows what evidence there may be – on a case to case basis. Gary Glitter chose to take a laptop full of kiddie porn to PC World and I have no doubt that this was a contributing factor to his present problems, as it is evidence of similar fact.
It would be infinitely better if there was supporting evidence in every instance and it is said that “justice delayed, is justice denied” but, for whatever reasons, these matters have been kept sub rosa by the alleged victims for years.
None of us would be happy if it were uniformly decided that such allegations could not be made after a certain length of time (or at least those contributors who always have something to say on the rights of the individual) as this would surely be a breach of natural justice – to arbitarily say to an individual that they could no longer bring such a case – as with certain other tortious matters.
Whether the allegations are found to be true or not is not within the purview of the police, or the equally maligned CPS, but with a jury and surely, if these matters concerned any one of us, and we had not come forward before (for whatever reason (and assuming that we were not some warped individual with an eye on a financial prize)) we would want someone to examine what we said, speak to the individual concerned, present the evidence to someone of a legal frame of mind, who would then be able to determine whether there was a case to answer.
I have been very upset to see the likes of Rolf Harris convicted, and other celebrities that I grew up with finding themselves in the dock and worse, and I am not sure whether this is all a matter of judging 1960’s and later behaviour by 2014 standards or a case of ‘jumpingonthebandwagonitis’, by certain persons who are happy to put another human being through a completely falacious ordeal or whether it is indeed all true and is behaviour that was reprehensible then and still is now, but clearly the public (ignorant or not) have an appetite for this and we are definitely living in a much altered society to that when these individuals were at their peak. Given the task of investigating, the police have no alternative but to go digging.
And, lest anyone think me to be foolish to believe in the system of law we presently have (and I agree it is not perfect) kindly suggest what reasonable alternative there may be?
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 12:18 pm -
re. the court system and juries
In Worcester Crown Court, Roy Harper’s jury was out for 13 hours and the judge wrapped things up and suggested the CPS might like to try again. In Southwark the Rolf jury was out for over 4o hours and almost two weeks. In Manchester Ray Terets jury was out for 60 hours. In that latter cazse he was found Not Guilty of 60% of what was thrown at him. At the very least he should have a 60% reduction of whatever they eventually did mange to get the jury to roll over for.
- jS
March 11, 2015 at 12:43 pm -
“None of us would be happy if it were uniformly decided that such allegations could not be made after a certain length of time…”
In some countries there are statute of limitations on even the most serious cases. In the UK we have them too – albeit on more trivial offences, so it isn’t an alien concept.
Justice is not all about alleged victims being “happy” though is it? We seem to be forgetting that it should also be about fairness for the accused – which one day could be any one of us.
We could all potentially be trying to prove a negative about an incident that supposedly happened on an undefined day, or even year, three decades ago. That’s a near impossibility.Perhaps there could at least be a half-way house where, after a certain length of time, cases where there is essentially no solid evidence of an offence at all other than the word of one person then a case is automatically dismissed. Thus allowing offences with very strong forensic or documentary evidence to still go ahead.
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- Bandini
March 11, 2015 at 10:02 am -
“… though I admit I have developed some healthy grudges since!”
SNAP! I seem to have one on a low-boil at the moment.Regarding the raid of the home of Lord Bramall I spotted this yesterday:
“”Some of the officers were wearing flak jacket body armour.” Another women who lives nearby, who is in her 60s, said: “As if you need body armour to attend the house of a man in his nineties, it’s ridiculous.”
That raid is inextricably linked to the raid of Harvey Proctor’s home, which of course is down to the hardwork of Exaro. They lost out in the Press Awards yesterday (for their joint “scoops” with the Sunday People), but Times’ columnist Matthew Parris won one – he is now ‘Political Journalist of the Year 2015’. (David Hencke of Exaro holds the 2012 trophy).
Parris wrote in his column only a couple of days ago about the Proctor raid & accusations: ” I think the story’s absolute b****cks.”
Awards, huh? What are they good for…
- The Blocked Dwarf
March 11, 2015 at 10:21 am -
” Another women who lives nearby, who is in her 60s, said: “As if you need body armour to attend the house of a man in his nineties, it’s ridiculous.”
uhm I once knew an old ‘major’ who kept a Rigby Nitro Express loaded by the front door…rampaging elephants being a perennial problem in Notting Hill apparently.
- Bandini
March 11, 2015 at 11:01 am -
Possibly kept as a work of art, judging by the images thrown up by Google – it’s a beauty.
My only experience with a firearm was a single-shot of a .22 rifle on an Army firing-range courtesy of a Scout’s trip.. A whole young life waiting to blast some imaginary baddies & I got a SINGLE SHOT! Aaargh…Elephants in Notting Hill? Three bastards with knives robbed me in a ‘phonebox there. If I’d known your old major I might have gone looking for a loan!
- Bandini
- Mudplugger
March 11, 2015 at 8:27 pm -
It is quite possible that Lord Edwin Bramall is just an innocent victim of ‘overlapping circles’.
Back in the early 1960s, he was on Lord Louis Mountbatten’s military staff – rumours of Mountbatten’s preferences and those of his wife, Edwina, are well reported.
In the early 1980s, at the time of the Falklands War, Bramall was the top military man, hence was closely involved in the decision to deploy Prince Andrew there as a helicopter pilot – the Prince being another victim of current rumour and speculation from the Epstein litigation. Prince Andrew has been linked to Ghislaine Maxwell in that recent publicity, who was herself linked to Harvey Proctor, the former MP whose home was raided at the same time as Bramall’s and Brittan’s.
Bramall was Chief of the Defence Staff at the same time that Leon Brittan was Home Secretary – it is difficult to imagine that they did not have any significant interface, perhaps established earlier when Brittan was Chief Secretary to the Treasury and thus closely involved in negotiating defence budgets.
So, using Plod-logic, because Bramall was a ‘constant’ across a number of overlapping circles of suspicion, he must be as guilty as sin. In the current hysterical climate, Lord Bramall may find it very difficult to prove his innocence, despite a lack of anything troubling like real evidence against him.- Bandini
March 11, 2015 at 8:42 pm -
I did see a tweet where it was pointed out that the ‘real’ Bramall had previously been the victim of a case of mistaken identity:
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/fourth-estate/2009/10/mistaken-identity-bnp-case- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 10:04 pm -
I had to further research your “Lord” Bramhall and what a peculiar chap I found. On his home page he lists all his life’s ailments, addresses, christening date and even publishes his DNA chart (which is unreadable).
No explanation as to how he became a “Lord” and as he’s fairly old it looks like he’s laying a path for future generations to be able to claim a Lord in the family tree. Obviously down to earth though even with parents who have very aristocratic names like Sid & Doris.
- eric hardcastle
- Moor Larkin
March 12, 2015 at 8:58 am -
Plod Logic? It’s the CPS who believe in “joining the dots”
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bibMlFeBmuI/UuzjtV_yivI/AAAAAAAADsk/xyODC4DgbY8/s1600/image002.gif
- Bandini
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Misa
March 11, 2015 at 10:03 am -
Right on the money. Bravo!
- The Blocked Dwarf
March 11, 2015 at 10:13 am -
“I’d have even more respect if you had apologised for handing out pitchforks in the first place.”
+1
Although my gripe of the day is at the Met handing out vaginas. Off topic I know but armies may march on their stomachs but they sleep in vulvas, twas always thus (with the notable exception of The Sacred Band of Thebes of course). How is running away to The Caliphate to provide physical succour for their brave boys and a steady supply of “My 1st AK47″ and British passport clutching, home produced, genetically and theologically enchanced replacement ‘Jihadi Johns’ NOT an act of Supporting Terrorism? Why should the Jihadi Brides NOT face criminal charges should they return to the UK- no doubt ‘Not Without My Genitally Mutilated Daughter” to boot ?
You just know that that piece of human scum with the blunt bowie knife, goes back to his tent every evening and is greeted by “Al Bint” who tells him in Jeremy Kyle accented arabic that he is the “Baddest Daddy in Cali-land like”….Allah’s Gangsta…
- cornish lark
March 11, 2015 at 10:42 am -
So very eloquently put. I agree with you 100%.
- Anon
March 11, 2015 at 11:06 am -
Speechless with awe!
- jaded48
March 11, 2015 at 11:19 am -
I think the expression is “having your cake and eating it”.
You want criminals caught but don’t want “clumsy thugs”coming round.PW admits to knowing that she has a drug dealer upstairs but won’t help the police (who were quite right it seems to stop a black man).Her inference is that they being racist and in her opinion they were being ridiculous.Also she seems to be a mind reader as she could tell they were bored.Excellent stuff!For every innocent man like Cliff Richard there is a Gary Glitter;a William Roche for every Stuart Hall-etc etc.
Please supply the police with crystal balls.
- The Blocked Dwarf
March 11, 2015 at 11:22 am -
Jaded, She is a He and has not a “wwwWwwaaascist” bone in her androgynous body.
- jaded48
March 11, 2015 at 11:41 am -
I wasn’t calling PW racist-my point is that PW was inferring the police were.
Yes I am the Jaded from Ambush Predator and read this blog every day but rarely comment.I’m not very intimidating, i’m actually quite a nice easy-going chap.- The Blocked Dwarf
March 11, 2015 at 11:47 am -
“I wasn’t calling PW racist-my point is that PW was inferring the police were.”
I didn’t say you were, I meant that PW is so not an offended ‘liberal’ who accuses the police of being racist because they dare to think black people also commit crimes.
- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 9:51 pm -
We know the police are not racist.
They are equal-opportunity reputation destroyers whether you are Petunia’s upstairs black dope smoker ( I have some next door to me and they are a blessing- so quiet as opposed to the ice addicts on the corner), a hapless social security fiddler, an aging Tory or corny entertainer and even an ancient War Hero.
No class or colour is exempt.
- eric hardcastle
- The Blocked Dwarf
- jaded48
- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 11:32 am -
It is clearly a problem for everyone when the police preoccupy themselves with the easy low-hanging fruit, whether that’s racially-profiling ethnic minorities on the off-chance that they’ll be able to pin something on them, or the same with elderly celebrities or “Establishment” figures.
This sort of thing smacks of an attitude satirised in the Judge Dredd strips in 2000 AD, where the Judges have a tactic called a “crime blitz,” which involves turning up en masse as a random citizen’s home, and then examining their life in minute detail for any evidence of criminality, because they can invariably find some transgression to prosecute. And if they find nothing, then that inself is deemed “suspiscious,” and “evidence” that they’re coverign something up.
You also seem to be pre-judging Petuinia’s neighbour, branding them a “drug dealer.” Someone I know can be said to often have “a substantial amount of weed” in his possession because he grows his own for his own consumption, precisely because he doesn’t want to have to deal with criminals. As far as I know, nobody else benefits from his unconventional gardening interest, but I doubt the police would make that destinction, preferring an easy “posession with intent to supply” if they could get it.
- Bandini
March 11, 2015 at 11:46 am -
Ho! The Judge Dredd attitude reminds me of a MWT comment wherein he stated that he would go through his own friend’s (!) medicine cabinet looking for something. The attitude that they MUST be guilty of something – “Just give me a bit longer, I’m bound to find something!” – thereby excusing his inexcusable snooping.
- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 9:45 pm -
There have always been MWTs around but they were rarely taken seriously.
- eric hardcastle
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 12:01 pm -
Given the way the CPS appears to have suborned HM Police into simply being their Prosecuting Arm, when it comes to CPS-Crusade crimes, the Judge Dredd simile is perhaps more apt than it should be. That the Police now also dictate the law when it suits them – Goths declared victims of Hate Crime because the copz say so – is another burden the citizens must labour under.
- CF
March 11, 2015 at 12:07 pm -
Indeed, instead of being independent of the police, which was the original idea, CPS seems to be adopting a role that’s an unwholesome mix of the Investigating Magistrates and the publicity-driven crusading DA.
- Chris
March 11, 2015 at 12:37 pm -
The reality TV “policing as entertainment” has become the over-riding reality of real policing.
Since the orchestrated dismantling of society began, the police of the UK have lowered their recruiting standards and in effect we find things not dissimilar to the scene from A Clockwork Orange when Alex on release from prison finds himself on the receiving end of police brutality – meted out by his former Droogs who are not policemen. They police are out to recruit thugs and avaricious idiots who, unlike their 20th Century counterparts, no longer as a whole understand the difference between right & wrong. Watch how fired up they get before arrests and raids on those reality tv shows – like football hooligans set to charge. I’ve been on the receiving of wrongful arrest and the intimidation that comes with it (over 7 years ago now). They objected to my knowledge of the law when I was facing up to a lying court bailiff (who subsequently had his license revoked), but I was staggered that after cuffing me for “breach of the peace” the officers then started chatting amongst themselves about mobile phone upgrades. Seven hours in the cells later, no interview and no charge. Lots of people concerned as to where the hell I’d been all day.
Their powers to search, raid and arrest have become distorted beyond reason – and this is borne out with the Lord Bramall & Cliff Richard raids. Do not think though that such breaches are restricted to high profile media cases – I know of a 79 yr widow from Hampshire who was recently arrested (and her house raided whilst she was being questioned for 16 hours) by a North-East force who arrived 7:30am one morning in a riot van, mob handed. She answered the door in her dressing gown and was arrested on suspicion of ‘money laundering’ and thrown in the back of the riot van as if she was a teenage burglar. This ‘money laundering’ consisted of her voluntarily sending about £450 by Paypal on behalf of about half a dozen other pensioners to a man in New Zealand who was in turn part of something they were investigating in the North-East. With that arrest came the condition that said lady is excommunicado whilst she is “investigated”, and her house contents examined – bail set at 8 weeks. The police know full well this is not going to result in a charge, they are merely using the powers they have to intimidate the vulnerable in order to trawl for ‘victims’ of the main case in the North-East. This is UK policing in the 21st Century – intimidation and trawling in order to widen the net of criminality (and thus, ultimately, state control) – the high profile cases are merely the thin end of a very nasty wedge.- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 9:39 pm -
The high profile raids or arrests and this new mantra that it will inspire new “victims” to come forward (who will be believed) is such an obvious attack upon the presumption of innocence we must believe that is very deliberate by the powers that be who must know that innocents will be swept up in the madness.
And where it will end is anyone’s guess with a bunch of New Labour MPs assisting in the ramping up of hysteria (while their colleagues seem to frightened to protest) and the Tories almost stunned into total silence either out of fear they too be could be accused or too vacuous to even contribute anything meaningful while their colleagues are slowly picked off.Reading the comments / twitters and so on I am amazed at the so-called left-wing / socialists who are convinced this is a final long awaited reckoning that will see the evil Westminster pedo ring that has operated openly (Tory toffs protected by MI5 /6 of course) that I no longer recognise a side of politics I always voted for and for the first time in my life, are repelled by.
There is a real fell of impending doom about all this and I really believe that some awful event will be triggered by the madness.
- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 9:42 pm -
apologies for what seems to be an advancing dyslexia. Hope it doesn’t indicate senility.
- eric hardcastle
- eric hardcastle
- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 1:54 pm -
As an occasional participant in a music subculture that encompasses wearing some unusual clothing*, I actually think that if something can be a hate crime based on religious belief, than it should be for other lifestyle choices, as well. If the difference between someone walking by with impunity and being picked out and victimised is what they’re wearing, then it’s just as much a hate crime as being attacked for the colour of their skin.
* Not Morris Dancing, I hasten to add.
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 2:30 pm -
As someone once remarked [might have been me], “Who commits Love Crime? Paedo’s are the only ones presumably” …
The best thing about the GMP inititaive was that it involved EMO’s too, and two weeks later EMO-supreme Ian Watkins was fingered.
- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 3:14 pm -
You missed a chance there – “EMO-supremo” surely?
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 4:16 pm -
LOLZ…. allegedly
- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 4:55 pm -
I walked right into that….
- Peter Raite
- Moor Larkin
- Peter Raite
- Moor Larkin
- CF
- Bandini
- Wigner’s Friend
March 11, 2015 at 4:28 pm -
“Please supply the police with crystal balls.”. My crystal balls stopped working when I had a vasectomy.
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Joe Public
March 11, 2015 at 11:21 am -
If ever I was on trial, I know who I’d like for my defence. And who I’d fear as prosecution.
- dearieme
March 11, 2015 at 11:25 am -
I’ve always assumed Max Hastings is a turd, onaccounta seeing him on the telly once, banging on pompously about something he obviously understood little about. Mind you, that description covers an awful lot of people whom the BBC delights in thrusting onto the screen. Or it used to anyway; I don’t watch the telly much nowadays, unless it’s the rugby, the football highlights, or Wolf Hall. Bloody good, WH, wasn’t it?
- Peter Raite
March 11, 2015 at 11:33 am -
It’s OK – it looks like Jeremy Clarkson is on the way out, at least.
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 2:33 pm -
I was mulling that one reason the BBC has been tearing itself apart is because of it’s patrician way of keeping the same old faces on the screen, generation after generation, whether it be an Attenborough or a Parkinson or a Forsyth or a Paxman, and Clarkson certainly fits the bill, if not his jeans any longer.
- Moor Larkin
- Peter Raite
- Jim McLean
March 11, 2015 at 11:38 am -
The writing is breathtaking in its power and honesty. The truth of what anna says just screams out.
- Little Black Sambo
March 11, 2015 at 12:16 pm -
Brilliant! That article by Hastings was crying out to be taken apart.
- windsock
March 11, 2015 at 12:43 pm -
Might Max Hastings be defending what he would like to see as “his own”… the upper classes, the Establishment, our betters, whatever you want to call them? Savile was, despite alleged associations with Thatcher, a prototype chav, with his shellsuits and bling. And the lower classes are always good material for those with the sense enough to avoid them but to write about them (and yes, I am being heavily ironic).
- Moor Larkin
March 11, 2015 at 12:46 pm -
He slagged off Prince Charles in 2010-ish. Maybe he’s a Diana fan.
- Moor Larkin
- Chris
March 11, 2015 at 12:52 pm -
“Cherry Picking” is the Archiles Heel of all these smug media types, and the “Savile Scandal” was designed to appeal to their idiotic vanity and middle-class leftist prejudices.
Jimmy Savile ticked all the boxes (and so did most of the others caught in the Yewtree net), but hark how they squeal when the witchfinding extended to people they respected – but it’s too late, baby, baby, it’s too late.
Small comfort to those who worked out the agenda right from the off though. - Henry the Horse
March 11, 2015 at 1:29 pm -
Hits the nail on the head with every sentence. Stunning piece of journalism.
- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 1:56 pm -
So in agreement. Why a British publication has not snapped The Raccoon as a columnist is a mystery.
- eric hardcastle
- eric hardcastle
March 11, 2015 at 1:54 pm -
I can’t add anything to this article. It’s perfect, spot on, to the point, pulls no punches and simply cannot be argued with!
- Cascadian
March 11, 2015 at 6:33 pm -
Max Hastings is a war historian of some credibility, however in the field of understanding justice and how it is applied in modern England he has a lot to learn from the landlady. He is not alone in that regard, too many Home Secretaries, Prime Ministers, politicians, journalists and even judges seem ill-informed and woefully inadequate.
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Perhaps he could be prevailed upon to research on the occasion of the 800 anniversary of Magna Carta, the rights of all citizens within England to security in their home and the expectation of a fair trial by his/her peers. He might like to extend that research to the ideals espoused when the first police force was formed by Robert Peel and make comparisons to the current foolish operating procedures. - Lisboeta
March 11, 2015 at 7:25 pm -
Where else can we read the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Bravo.
- Bill Sticker
March 11, 2015 at 9:00 pm -
Will Jeremy Clarkson be next now he’s been ditched by the BBC? Is he to be the next target of the paedo witch hunters?
Pardon me for thinking there’s a dreary kind of inevitability about all these 30 and 40 year old allegations.
- jaded48
March 11, 2015 at 10:27 pm -
Perhaps Parliament will re-write the law to state that someone who a Daily Mail journalist thinks is a “good egg” will get the equivalent of diplomatic immunity?
- Ho Hum
March 12, 2015 at 8:51 am -
Well, at the rate we’re going, maybe in the next few years. Made retrospective, into the 1930s
- Ho Hum
- Carol42
March 12, 2015 at 2:05 am -
I had the same reaction when I read that article. Not once, anywhere, have I seen even the slightest doubt as to Jimmy Savile’s guilt expressed by any columnist. I live in hope that there is just one honest journalist who will at least ask questions but I think it is too late now.
- Ho Hum
March 12, 2015 at 9:12 am -
To take a slightly different tack, and much as I readily acknowledge that the media contains some pretty loathsome individuals who will publicly crucify, or sanctify, anyone when it suits them to do so, part of the problem with this sort of matter is that they only have the one side of the story to write about.
If we are going to have people named publicly in these cases, the whole process would be much fairer if there were no anonymity for the accusers, and trawling for both corroborative and character witnesses were allowed from each side of the good ship Justice.
- Ms Mildred
March 12, 2015 at 9:27 am -
@ Carol 42. I agree that Savile’s reputation has perhaps passed the point of no return. I see Channel 5 may be joining the destruct process too. I did not like Savile. Nor do I like Clarkson, whose show is very popular. They are both unconventional mavericks. Thanks for pointing out Max Hastings assertion that his high up friend of note is innocent and contrasting it with a customary knee jerk condemnation of Savile. Public spectacle is right Anna. Now we can sit back and watch the roasting of selected persons of note high up the social scale, even a very elderly, much decorated soldier’s drum is turned over. An ancient visitors book taken away. Guilt by association again? I did catch a short sound bite of Hogan doodah saying they are over busy with ‘investigating’ every slur fired at them. Oh dear what a clamity!
- Jonathan King
March 12, 2015 at 10:27 am -
I need to mention that Hastings sat at the desk next to me in History at school; we never got on. But I was pleased to see his eyes opened slightly by this latest fiasco; now, little steps, he and others need to move on to the bleeding obvious. But I don’t condemn people for hypocrisy. It’s natural for people to want to believe that the judicial system is NOT broken, or else none of us is safe in our beds. 15 years ago, when this all happened to me in – Petunia’s words – the “Yewtree test case” (preceded by two failed attempts a few days earlier – Mick Hucknall and Paul Weller) – there were moments when I decided I MUST be guilty and had wiped my own memory clean, so convincing was the “evidence”. Then I spotted a glaring error, went back on past statements and saw a connection. The same police had been conducting the interviews and had helpfully provided extra detail. This can be seen in Vile Pervert: The Musical (free to view online) and read in my autobiographies 65 My Life So Far and 70 FFFY. So whilst I agree with virtually every word of Anna’s piece, I suggest we celebrate the slow advance of the dawning of truth rather than condemn past blindness. Only then can we save those who may suffer in the future.
- Ho Hum
March 12, 2015 at 10:41 am -
True. One might also just hope that he took a moment to read the comments left below his article, and started to realise the extent to which a large part of the general public has, on this subject, been stripped of what little common sense it might ever have had
- Ho Hum
- Misa
March 22, 2015 at 4:55 am -
Peter Hitchens speaks up:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3006036/PETER-HITCHENS-smugly-boast-Magna-Carta-stands-trampled.htmlHe did once upon a time say, “I now discover that I am almost the only journalist who didn’t know that Jimmy Savile was a child molester.”
Might the penny drop?
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