The Mountain comes to Mohamed.
Ms Raccoon has been off scurrying down another rabbit hole. It proved to be a rich seam of material. We may be some time digging into this one folks…
It started when the morning newspapers brought word of yet another leak from the porous world of Operation Sapphire, the Metropolitan police’s specialist sex crime unit. Alleged victims may be assured of anonymity – but by Jingo, let any celebrity name be so much as mentioned in those dark corridors, and long before charges are laid, someone will ensure that Mark Williams-Thomas can add to his bylines and spread the name round the slavering hordes on Twitter. They really should have called themselves Operation Linkbait.
Thus it was that our favourite Imitation Max Clifford, the Chewing-Gum Shoe, was able to bring news that Mohamed Al Fayed may be reinterviewed, if an internal CPS review takes place, into allegations that were dismissed a year ago, when aged 84, he was accused of having forced himself upon this 20 year old woman in his London flat. She did go to the police the following day, but despite this, no provable evidence was found of anything he could be charged with.
It is not the first time he has been ‘fingered’ by the Met police for alleged sexual offences. It was alleged that he might have sexually assaulted a teenage girl by kissing her when he met her in the company of her Mother in 2008.
At the time, Al Fayed was annoyed that news he had been interviewed by police was leaked to the Daily Star.
“Despite assurances today’s interview would be kept confidential, Mr Al Fayed is concerned that it was reported within one hour of its conclusion,” the Daily Star quoted his spokeswoman as saying.
This time the information was leaked to the marginally more upmarket Daily Mirror. Within hours. Perhaps they pay better. I do idly wonder at times whether the Metropolitan Police are not more interested in linkbait stories appearing in the main stream media than they are in ending the scourge of sexual offences that are carried out within the home by people not worth suing for compensation.
Still, another witness has come forward, a 36-year-old ‘businesswoman’, and now the alleged offence that Al Fayed was never charged with, is to be looked at again to see if the ’36-year-old’ has anything to add to the original story that might result in re-interviewing him – and in the meantime, the media get to mention Fulham Football Club, Harrods, Princess Diana, and the Ritz Hotel. Bingo!
I am not here to defend Mr Al Fayed. I know nothing about him. I do, however, question whether when the circumstances are so unclear as to include ‘after the interview had finished, she stayed on’, and became so ‘incapacitated’ that ‘she was attacked between 11pm and 1am’ that Al Fayed should be publicly denounced and left to walk the media ‘perp walk’ before any charges are brought.
There is no reason why a woman should accept being raped as the price of having got drunk and let her interest in taking up a professional position become so ‘muddied’ by still being in a man’s apartment at 1am, drunk and incapacitated – but when the clear demarcation between appearing to be a willing party to an off-side interview and being professional is so indistinct, then at least wait until the CPS have confirmed that activities were illegal before earning your living flogging the sordid story to the media.
Before the ink was dry halfway through the article, they were forced to acknowledge that:
“The Metropolitan Police today confirmed no new evidence had been offered by the complainant and they fully expect their review to be completed early next week.”
So no new evidence, into an allegation that didn’t originally have sufficient evidence with which to charge a man, and in fact he was only duly questioned in line with police guidelines. Never mind. A 1,000 word article with MWTs name appended to it, stuffed full of linkbait and a barely disguised ‘this is a man with pots of money, do come forward with your mountain of allegations’……
Of course Al Fayed doesn’t presently have the use of his previous public relations man – Max Clifford. They were so close that Max was defended by Al Fayed’s lawyer BCL Burton Copeland partner Ian Burton as recommended by Mohammed Al Fayed.
Clifford, in turn, was the originator of the false sexual allegations made against Neil and Christine Hamilton, people Al Fayed was in conflict with at the time.
Along with her husband, Christine Hamilton was arrested in May 2001 by police investigating an alleged rape that was found to be entirely false. Hamilton said, “The whole thing is just nonsense on stilts.” Their accuser, Nadine Milroy-Sloan, was later imprisoned for attempting to pervert the course of justice. Ten years later she made false accusations against her boyfriend, and was jailed yet again. The police made a full apology.
Judge Simon Smith declared, “It’s becoming all too easy for people to sell false allegations against well-known people, or about well-known people, to the press, and courts have got to deal firmly with it.”
That was in 2003 – 10 years later it has become a full time occupation for some.
I sometimes get the impression that some ‘child protection experts’ are only interested in the subject when there are famous names to be exposed via the media, and subsequently sued for compensation by expanding personal injury firms.
The media are becoming willing accomplices in a sordid business under the emotive guise of ‘child protection’.
Does anybody have a breakdown of the figures for prosecution of sexual offences by the Metropolitan Police for ‘complete non-entities’ versus ‘household names’?
In the course of this article, I have stumbled over some fascinating material which will become the subject of future posts – but there are 100,000+ words of it, so be patient! It will keep me out of trouble for a while yet.
- John Galt
February 16, 2015 at 8:18 am -
This was an obvious consequence of no fee lawyers, anonymity of rape victims and the feminist viewpoint of suspension of critical thinking required for “I believe her” / “Rape victims never lie” narrative.
There are some unfortunate and possibly deluded souls who think that a bit of minor celebrity / media attention and the possibility of a bit of compensation (for whom a few thousand is a incredible amount) are willing to perjure themselves.
This is not helped by the likes of CPS chief, Alison Saunders pushing the boundaries to achieve rape convictions which fit her narrative (all men are rapists) for political / idealogical reasons.
I can’t see any of this coming to an end any-time soon unless the accused start legal actions against their perjurers.
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 9:22 am -
With this cast, it’s all like akin to a 21st Century version of The Borgias with the poison being delivered by the computerised pen rather than a finger-ring, although rings are always a dangerous thing to mention in this area of jurisprudence.
- JimS
February 16, 2015 at 9:45 am -
I would have thought it rather more important to investigate child abuse where certain councillors were given their own personal, review-free fiefdom where, it has been alleged, some of those councillors were personally involved.
Even more importantly, apparently, is that the cover-up job wasn’t done properly as it allowed the ‘wrong sort of whistle-blowers’ to make a fuss: “By failing to take action against the Pakistani heritage male perpetrators of CSE in the borough, the Council has inadvertently fuelled the far right and allowed racial tensions to grow.” [Report of the Inspection of Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council, Louise Casey CB: Page 12] - Jonathan King
February 16, 2015 at 10:32 am -
Superb! What a cast list. You couldn’t make it up. But it makes you wonder about the sanity of the media, the police and society as a whole. Sometimes the entire human race appears to be heading towards the edge of a cliff. Lemmings have more sense.
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 10:45 am -
Never underestimate the power of Hate.
http://youtu.be/X20XIg38GcE - EeByPlod
February 16, 2015 at 7:25 pm -
Did someone say Cliff ? Scramble the helicopters and the BBC !!
- Moor Larkin
- windsock
February 16, 2015 at 10:48 am -
I can imagine a point not too far into the future, once funding has been cut again, when police will start asking those whose complaints do not result in a CPS case to pay up for “investigation costs”.
I am not entirely sure whether this is a good, or bad, idea.
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 11:37 am -
Seeing as it’s the Can’t pay, Won’t pay. No Win, No Fee brigade that lie behind all this flim-flam, it wouldn’t make a ha’porth of difference.
- windsock
February 16, 2015 at 11:54 am -
Couldn’t we make those lawyers who pursue such cases responsible for the investigation costs when it results in no prosecution?
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 11:57 am -
That would deny justice to the under-privileged missus labouring under the groins of rich paedophiles.
- Moor Larkin
- windsock
- Moor Larkin
- Chris
February 16, 2015 at 10:51 am -
In other Abuse News, ‘Uncle Si’ and ‘Poor Karen’ have decided to play their joker
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2955099/I-raped-age-six-reveals-selfie-loving-Labour-MP-s-wife-Karen-Danczuk-says-posts-photos-fun-without-ashamed-myself.htmlIs there a point in which you can become too cynical?
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 11:00 am -
No
- Robert the Biker
February 16, 2015 at 12:01 pm -
Now I am not a quack, but I would have thought that rape of a six year old would have left horrific physical damage, hospital visit stuff and not the sort of thing that would have been kept quiet.
Lacking a complaint at the time with an investigation and at least a basic examination, what exactly are we supposed to do now? Perhaps we truly are at the stage of complaint having the status of proof.- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 12:08 pm -
@BikerBob
You haven’t been keeping up have you. Stuart Hall was mostly condemned on the premise of his having laid his hand on the upper thigh of a 9 year-old…. forty years or so before. At least Karen’s assailant is within the last twenty years. The nub will be if she names him, and whether or not he is alive, or once again conveniently dead already.- Robert the Biker
February 16, 2015 at 12:47 pm -
Well, quite! But Karen two-tits is complaining of RAPE which if only legally requires penetration and therefore my point is still valid I think. If we have gotten tp the point where she says=15 years, then we are royally fucked as no defence of any kind is possible.
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 12:51 pm -
I’m not going into the details because that’s what these pervy folk like to read about, but check the law as worded since 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_2003- Robert the Biker
February 16, 2015 at 1:10 pm -
But this is the 2003 act, she is complaining about a historic act from before this, so the addition of (no BJs either) does not arise! This supposed assailant could only be charged with the offence of the time in which it supposedly occured surely.
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 1:23 pm -
@Robertthe biker
Perfect for why she will not name him because of course, due to the corrupt nature of the past, he can no longer be charged with anything nowadays *deep gloom*. Journalists are professionals at this sort of thing, not amateurs.
- Moor Larkin
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 16, 2015 at 1:20 pm -
“I’m not going into the details because that’s what these pervy folk like to read about”
I tried to bear that in mind when I wrote my long winded reply too. Hopefully I didn’t cross any lines.
- Robert the Biker
- Moor Larkin
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm -
“Stuart Hall was mostly condemned on the premise of his having laid his hand on the upper thigh of a 9 year-old…. forty years or so before” – The Moor
The article (can I call anything in the DM that?) speaks of ‘repeatedly raped from the age of 6’. By a ‘friend of the family’. Said ‘friend’ must have not only have been a pervert but able to plan his attacks with military precision and also have had a deep insight into housekeeping.
Without wanting to go into great and distressing detail, there would be blood, lots of it and almost certainly everytime penetration occured. That bleeding would have almost certainly continued for days afterwards and that’s assuming that it was ‘only’ vaginal bleeding and not from internal organ damage. To achieve his goals, The Friend, would probably have needed an industrial amount of some lubricant…petroleum-based bed sheet staining lubricant.
Did her parents really let a family friend go up to say ‘good night’ to their precious daughter while he was clutching a large tub of Vaseline (other lubricants for Child Rape are available) and laundry Pre-treatment spray? After he’d read their daughter a bed time story, did the parents not wonder why he suddenly insisted on doing the weeks bedding laundry for them before returning to his own place? How did any mother miss her daughter having bloody knickers the day(s) after?
“I never said a word” , trust me Karen, if he had raped you (rape as in penile penetration not ‘rape’ as in being forced to touch him) at age 6, you would have not have been able to avoid SCREAMING THE F**KING HOUSE DOWN. Even if he had clamped his hand over your mouth, you’d have been sobbing afterwards LOUDLY all night,loud enough to awaken your seemingly oblivious parents….unless the attack induced that Catatonic like state some abused Kids go into but even your parents would have noticed THAT at breakfast the next morning…cos they obviously failed to notice the bruising on your arms and legs from where he had to hold you still -no 6 year old being capable of just lying back and thinking of Tele-Tubby Land.
- Peter Raite
February 18, 2015 at 11:34 am -
Without wanting to out-grim you, it does seem on a par with Roman Polanski’s apparently problem-free “change of emphasis” during his bout of underage sex.
- Peter Raite
- Robert the Biker
- Chris
February 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm -
Meanwhile on Twitter, ‘Uncle Si’ is acting furiously to people who have suggested this is reported to the local Dibble
@PaulTMRetail One of mine & Karen’s trolls, who can’t stop attacking even when it involves child rape. You’re a very sad & sick man Plse RT.
@OReillyMiriam You’re showing how little you know about rape. Another one of Karen’s trolls.
@OReillyMiriam Yet another reason why you’re wholly unsuitable to be a Labour MP.What an absolute charmer.
- Bandini
February 16, 2015 at 12:14 pm -
And his missus dangles a wriggly wound-worm before our eyes, hinting at further & possibly worse revelations to come:
Cllr Karen Danczuk @KarenDanczuk 14 hace 14 horas
Please read my most difficult & heartbreaking interview TO DATE in @TheSunNewspaper tomorrow. KD- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm -
Reminds me of Jim & his 3,000 birds …. Nooo…. she won’t……. will she?
https://spotlightonabuse.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/savile3.jpg
- Moor Larkin
- Bandini
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 16, 2015 at 12:14 pm -
+1
- Moor Larkin
- Robert the Biker
- Bandini
February 16, 2015 at 11:43 am -
She had been hinting heavily that there was something along these lines to come out… just had to wait for the right moment (i.e. “deal”).
I don’t have access to The Sun scoop from where the Mail nicked their tale – or was it a joint-enterprise? – but can’t help noticing that no mention of the alleged assailant’s fate is made. Presumably husband Simon is on the case, if it wasn’t already dealt with?(At least with this tale the alleged victim seems to have recovered, putting paid to the idea that any & every childhood trauma is a never-ending life-sentence from which there can be no escape.)
- Bandini
February 16, 2015 at 11:49 am -
Sorry to reply to my own comment but I just saw that The Sun have a moving photograph of her dabbing tears from her eyes! Unsurprisingly, her baps are, for once, not on display. Ye Gods…
- Flo
February 16, 2015 at 1:32 pm -
Her parents split up when she was very young she has said.
She claims the rapes occured on Sunday nights- bath night.
What family friend has regular and unlimited overnight access to people’s children?
- Bandini
- Moor Larkin
- GildasTheMonk
February 16, 2015 at 11:11 am -
I knew a beautiful girl at college. I got to meet her sister – even more beautiful, one of the most beautiful girls I ever met. And sexy too; the two are not always co-existent Anyway, she worked as a PA to Mr Al-Fayed. I never forgot her huge a extremely expensive Rolex type watch, which I recall she said he had given her. Such is life.
- Engineer
February 16, 2015 at 11:26 am -
The more I hear about Fame and Wealth, the more convinced I become that the way to happiness lies through Complete Obscurity and Enough To Pay The Bills.
- Alex
February 16, 2015 at 12:26 pm -
Nail, head, hammer!
- Bill Sticker
February 17, 2015 at 7:44 pm -
Amen, brother, amen.
- Peter Raite
February 18, 2015 at 11:40 am -
Yeah, when I win the Lottery I’m definitely going down the “no publicity” route!
- Alex
- Chris
February 16, 2015 at 11:32 am -
The tidal wave of propaganda seems to be telling everyone that octogenarians are active rapists and perverts (Rolf Harris supposedly spent his days pulling his pud over internet porn) rather than spending their days dozing off and forgetting things.
Blame It On The Viagra?- Roderick
February 16, 2015 at 11:50 am -
Indeed. Given the current cult of victimhood, I suppose it’s only a matter of time before a smart lawyer launches a class-action lawsuit against Pfizer on behalf of the “Victims of Viagra”, the victims in this case being helpless males, allegedly uninformed of the consequences of chemically-induced temporary priapism on themselevs and their sexual partner(s).
- Roderick
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 11:51 am -
Somewhat off-topic, but related perhaps to the desire for “the law” to dictate our moral compass, there was mention on the “BBC Thought Programme” this morning about a discussion programme over the issue of, “Is it immoral to pay cash in hand”. Perhaps this practice of the working classes might be next for the criminal courts and media damnation under the Tax Dodging label. Needless to say, the fact that newsrags themselves are not subject to VAT will not be up for discussion.
- AdrianS
February 16, 2015 at 6:00 pm -
for small jobs why wouldn’t you pay cash in hand?
Every time you go into the newsagent do you demand a receipt ?
It’s the trader’s responsibility to account to HMRC for their income- Peter Raite
February 18, 2015 at 11:42 am -
Last time our window cleaner was round and I happened to be in, he was quite surprised that I insisted on paying him in cash, rather than the usual faff of sending him a bank transfer!
- Peter Raite
- AdrianS
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 16, 2015 at 12:05 pm -
Ahh the latest Epic-sod of “I’m A Celebrity -Get Me Into Her Majesty’s Prison..” , I had wondered what names the new week would bring. MWT really is an industrious little plastic Hopkins , is he not?
- Alex
February 16, 2015 at 12:32 pm -
Look folks it’s really very simple – if a human being has a set of testicles then that human being is guilty of some sort of vile sex crime – easy. As a precuationary measure all such scum should, on reaching the age of 16, be banged up for so long as they pose no further risk to society – all problems solved!
- Ed P
February 16, 2015 at 1:36 pm -
A set? That rather lets Hitler off the hook.
- Moor Larkin
February 16, 2015 at 2:10 pm -
Adolf features on more than one Paedo site I’ve browsed, based on his seduction of the 17 year-old Eva. Six million Jews just doesn’t cut the evil mustard these days it seems, or perhaps it is deemed to demonstrate how evil are the paedo’s; who can follow the logic of the dots.
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 16, 2015 at 2:17 pm -
As Geli was also only 17 when she met Hitler , it would seem that he really was a paedo and therefore EVIL.
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Moor Larkin
- Ed P
- English Pensioner
February 16, 2015 at 1:01 pm -
I wonder how much police effort and money is being expended investigating allegations of “historic crimes”, as compared with investigating actual crimes which are taking place at the present.
I’ve no problem with the police investigating real crimes from the past, such as murder where there is solid evidence that a crime has been committed, but all these new allegations about past “crimes” must be costing enormous amounts both in resources and in money.- Mudplugger
February 16, 2015 at 1:26 pm -
Agreed. I always thought Plod had a dual-mandate of both crime detection and crime prevention.
Maybe if they spent just a little of their plentiful resources actively detecting such current and prevalent crimes in certain northern towns (not all beninning with R, like Rotherham and Rochdale), their reluctant and belated action might succeed in their second objective of preventing a helluva lot more of such crime from happening in the first place.
But what do I know, I only pay their wages, pensions, fancy offices, cars, ACPO, expenses…….- AdrianS
February 16, 2015 at 6:08 pm -
I think as far as plod are concerned a game of victim trumps goes on, and historic abuse is a trumps card. Drag some poor old sod out the house at 6.30 in the morning drag him down the nick, play mental games with him, then of course it’s nice 9 to 5 investigation work in a warm office with nice coffee, no chasing around the local estate in the rain after the neds!
Then get some nice Overtime in , get the pizza delivered to the nick, right up your performance management review about seeing the victim first, meeting their needs, score extra for diversity etc
And all with a nice pay cheque and pension at the end of the month
- AdrianS
- Mudplugger
- The Blocked Dwarf
February 16, 2015 at 1:21 pm -
“but all these new allegations about past “crimes” must be costing enormous amounts both in resources and in money.”
and lives and life-years.- AdrianS
February 16, 2015 at 8:53 pm -
Absolutely, and look how much they spent on the phone hacking prosecutions!
- AdrianS
- Daisy Ray
February 16, 2015 at 1:30 pm -
If the egregious Williams-Thomas is remembered for anything, it will be for turning crimes against the person into an extension of showbiz. If you don’t believe me, take a look at the cover of today’s Sun. Lead story is a payment of many thousands to a reality TV star by Barnardo’s. (This is the kind of asinine thing charities do when they decide their role is to ‘raise awareness’, rather than anything as old-fashioned as relieving human suffering.)
Turn to the inside pages and you find Karen Danczuk telling us about her ‘abuse hell’. Now, you may find her story a little strange (her parents didn’t notice a strange man creeping into her bedroom every Sunday night for several years?) but no one can pronounce on its credibility as she refuses to go to the police. Whether truthful or not, it does seem germane that according to the Mail she has signed to a PR agency and is seeking a career in the media. As to Mrs Danczuk’s skills in accurate precis, take a look at this http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/karen-danczuk-me-me-meee.html - Alexander Baron
February 16, 2015 at 2:59 pm -
Unless someone was convicted of interfering with the MPs wife I would dismiss her rape claim as rubbish. Who would have repeated access to a 6 year old, and surely someone would notice. I would likewise dismiss the Al-Fayed claim unless there is something physical. Men of 80+ don’t usually commit rape, and any woman genuinely in fear of losing her honour would surely put up a fiercesome fight and probably give him a good kicking. Besides, he doesn’t seem the type, especially when he could ring up the local floozy and get some hand relief for a fistful of Livres Egyptiennes.
- AdrianS
February 16, 2015 at 8:57 pm -
I would have certainly thought a 6 yr old would be very tearful in the presence of someone who hurt them. As for Al frayed at 86 I’d be surprised if he could engage in sex!
- AdrianS
- Carol42
February 16, 2015 at 3:45 pm -
Nice to see you back on form Anna. I am so sick of all this nonsense , it seems historic abuse is all the Police are interested in, not current crimes and then only if it involves a celebrity or old men who no longer post any risk, if they ever did. I don’t believe Karen’s story she seems to be an attention seeker at any price. I think the whole world has gone insane these days . Looking forward to more interesting posts.
- Frankie
February 16, 2015 at 8:06 pm -
“… her interest in taking up a professional position.”
Is this like Reverse Cowgirl, as opposed to plain old Missionary??
- TBS
February 16, 2015 at 8:18 pm -
Today I was contacted by a very nice lady police officer who was labouring under the misapprehension that I had an allegation to make against another celebrity.
I was happy to disabuse her of this notion and note my distaste for participating in witch hunts. But I was delighted to obtain first hand proof that the police are indeed engaged in trawling exercises. I’ll be deciding at my leisure what I do with that information.
- AdrianS
February 16, 2015 at 9:00 pm -
Rule 1. Never trust the police
Rule 2. Never trust the police
Rule 3. Never trust the police
Rule 4. You’ve guessed it!
- AdrianS
- JimmyGiro
February 16, 2015 at 8:56 pm -
The comedian Chris Rock made a quip about reducing the number of innocent bystanders being shot by trigger happy police, by making each round cost $5,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw
If lawyers can create a market out of ‘no win no fee’, then maybe we could quell plods arrest hysteria, by only paying them when the arrest leads to a proven crime?
- AdrianS
February 16, 2015 at 9:03 pm -
Not a lot sticks to plod or plonk for that matter, they’re good at fitting up people and even better at getting themselves out of the myre
- Peter Raite
February 18, 2015 at 11:50 am -
And then – when busted – petulantly saying, “we are not looking for anyone else in connection with this crime.”
- Peter Raite
- AdrianS
- Paul Widdecombe
February 17, 2015 at 6:26 pm -
A close friend and an ex both worked at Harrods under Al-Fayed. Both independently told of an extremely misogynistic culture whereby sexual harrassment/assaults and worse were routinely covered up. Stories abounded of quiet sackings, payoffs and girls being given lavish apartments as hush payments in extreme cases. As did stories of more consensual liaisons leading to promotion as a matter of course.
All hearsay, of course, but of the multiple instances of agressive sexual harassment that my ex described – from a middle level manager, I have no doubt at all. Thinking about it still makes my blood boil.
If the media wanted to persuade me of a story of an entirely corrupt establishment, rotten from the bottom to the very top, they wouldnt have to try very hard with Harrods under al-Fayed.
Even if only a tiny proportion of the stories are true, bungling Mr Plod should still have no problem scoring a few convictions.
- Moor Larkin
February 18, 2015 at 11:55 am -
Sounds a bit like Stoke Mandeville Hospital, but I imagine the NHS will roll over for the “hiding in plain sight but not a scrap of actual evidence bollocks” easier than Mohamed will…
- Paul Widdecombe
February 19, 2015 at 7:01 pm -
Wow – never thought about it like that. Maybe it was, as you cleverly point out, all just a load of old bollocks. Silly me for being gullible enough to believe the testimony of those closest to me at the time. I can tell by your no doubt well informed, erudite sneering that you have obviously done your research on this one.
There is of course a massive difference between Stoke Mandeville & Harrods. The former employ their staff mostly based on the basis of their medical and caring qualifications and experience, whereas the latter employ(ed?) their staff mostly as eye candy, based on them being sluts of one kind or another. If you were not a slut (as my ex was & is not, but my friend would no doubt have liked to have been) you were treated as one & received little or no sympathy, or outright close-rank hostility from your sluttier superiors, especially if you complained.
Whereas at Stoke Mandeville, you would expect a certain level of hanky panky between the nurses and porters (the majority no doubt being consensual) the focus would be on the job of looking after patients. For the majority of fashionistas at Harrods it was their raison d’etre.
The other difference is that there would have been very few girls under the age of consent at Harrods. (being a place of work) The 15 year old will be an edge case, but the sheer scale of the banal daily harassment – anything but.
As mentioned before – I believe there will be plenty of evidence forthcoming. Sneer all you like – we will see.And hiding in plain sight? Nope – just really good lawyers, a large entourage of intimidating goons & a massive pile of cash to throw at people. It isnt like this has only just come out now either – this report is from 1997:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/al-fayed-accused-harrods-boss-rejects-charges-of-lechery-and-bugging-1289749.htmlTallies exactly with what my ex described happening to her six or so years later.
- IlovetheBBC
February 21, 2015 at 11:01 am -
I’m inclined to believe you on this, given that Al Fayed’s Harrods has plenty of form in treating its staff like so much human meat, deciding which ones to display to the public depending on skin colour, age and looks. Remember he never did sue Vanity Fair over the article that made it all crushingly plain. I recommend digging that out for a read.
- Moor Larkin
February 21, 2015 at 12:01 pm -
* deciding which ones to display to the public depending on skin colour, age and looks *
Unlike the BBC.
Jesus H Christ… People and their high fucking horses. - Jonathan Boyd Hunt
February 23, 2015 at 8:19 am -
The Vanity Fair article to which you refer, by Maureen Orth, “Holy War at Harrods”, published in September 1995, can be downloaded in Rich Text Format from here:
http://www.guardianlies.com/section%206/page25.htmlI quote from the article liberally in my new video: “Cash for Questions 44: The proof Neil Hamilton is innocent”, which can be found here:
http://youtu.be/aFXiQZyLT_c- Moor Larkin
February 23, 2015 at 9:02 am -
I was reading him and his missus had been considering standing for UKIP but the journalistista’s are agin it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11297582/Nigel-Farage-must-ditch-Neil-Hamilton-or-Ukip-will-be-destroyed.html- Jonathan Boyd Hunt
February 23, 2015 at 3:54 pm -
Quite so. I would be surprised if Peter Oborne is aware of the cover-up perpetrated by Peter Preston, David Hencke, Alan Rusbridger, David Leigh, John Sweeney, John Mullin, and others. But most of the Beeb’s political staff who were around during the period 1994-2000 certainly are.
- Jonathan Boyd Hunt
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- IlovetheBBC
- Paul Widdecombe
- Moor Larkin
- Neil Saunders
February 17, 2015 at 8:02 pm -
One of the avenues I think no-one has ever explored with Mr Mark Williams Thomas is data protection laws and possibly The Official Secrets Act. He gets privileged information and releases it into the public domain. He’s no longer a police officer, but Nonce-Finder General. And what of the police officers who feed him his little titbits? In any other walk of life, if you released privately held information by your employer to the press – be it through a third party – you would be sacked. Cliff is suing the BBC for the broadcast of the ransacking of his house. Wrong target mate.
- Peter Raite
February 18, 2015 at 11:52 am -
Very pertinent questions. We just had a lot of not unjustifiable hoo-hah about serving plod passing juicy information to Grub Street, and I wouldn’t think that using MWT as a conduit makes it any different.
- Moor Larkin
February 18, 2015 at 11:56 am -
Maybe ACPO should investigate… *chortle *
- Moor Larkin
- Peter Raite
- sally stevens
February 21, 2015 at 1:23 am -
At the end of 2000, I was working for a lawyer here in LA who was representing Al Fayed, though I don’t remember exactly why. Something to do with his then-ongoing crusade to exonerate Dodi, while insisting that Diana absolutely intended to marry him. Not true, of course. The big love of her life was Dr. Hasnat Khan.
Al Fayed has been waging a constant battle with the Queen, since she denied him British citizenship. I don’t know if this current situation is somehow connected, but he is thoroughly disliked in certain very influential circles and this would be a good way to harass him.
- Moor Larkin
February 21, 2015 at 10:22 am -
It was of course not the Queen Sally, it was John Major, and strangely enough his government was eventually consumed by tidal-waves of sex sleaze, although back then the sex seems almost innocent by comparison with nowadays – sucking toes rather than sucklings. I guess that’s progress – always upping the auntie.
- sally stevens
February 22, 2015 at 1:03 am -
The Queen was pretty annoyed about Diana’s relationship with Dodi, and certainly didn’t want Al Fayed to have anything to do with her grandsons, one of whom is heir to the throne. Al Fayed was quite sure the Queen (The Firm really) was behind all of it – at least that’s what he communicated to his lawyers – so from the horse’s mouth, so to speak. John Major was never mentioned by Al Fayed. He blamed it all, squarely, on HM, and the DofE. Just quoting him, I have no opinion. Fayed answers to nobody but himself, he is not in the pocket of the Saudis. Having worked around him, you get to know a bit about your client – he’s arrogant and despises the Royal Family, hence removing their crest from Harrod’s. Of course, as an Arab, he does not consider women his equal, so would likely treat them poorly.
- Moor Larkin
February 22, 2015 at 8:34 am -
@Sally
I can quite imagine the Queen might have had some strong personal opinions about Diana. This sequence of events might suggest Al Fayed expected better the second time and thus came to blame it on the Queen, but why would he have expected better with Labour? One reason might be that his brother was granted citizenship I suppose.Mr al-Fayed’s first application in 1995 was rejected by the Conservative government. But eight weeks ago his brother, Ali, was successful in his own citizenship bid and Mr al-Fayed was said to be greatly encouraged.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/336705.stm
“Home Secretary Jack Straw rejected the application for a British passport by the owner of Harrods and Fulham Football Club. A spokesman for the tycoon said the decision was “perverse” and would be challenged in the courts. In a statement, the Home Office said: “The home secretary has decided not to grant Mr Mohamed al-Fayed’s citizenship application after taking into account all relevant material and having decided to discount the criticisms of him in the DTI inspectors report on grounds of passage of time.“We also find it remarkable that only last night the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, and Home Secretary, Jack Straw, saw fit to shake hands with Mr Fayed at a conference of the Muslim Council of Britain. “Yet today they have decided he is not fit to be a British citizen.”
- Moor Larkin
- sally stevens
- eric hardcastle
February 21, 2015 at 1:00 pm -
Do not believe all the tales of the so-called ‘establishment’ hatred for Fayed and visa versa. He plays Arab politics which are complex and not always as they appear. Conspiracists prattle on about Jewish influence in the West. Arab influence is far more powerful and discreet.
Fayed is very similar to Adnan Kashoggi the arms dealer (and is a partner with him). His real money comes form the Saudis. He is basically a front man.
Nothing will happen to him.
- Moor Larkin
- IlovetheBBC
February 22, 2015 at 10:24 pm -
After much family mud slinging, Karen Danczuk has named her alleged repeat assailant and he has been arrested. Unless there is an error in reporting, he is a full 5 years older then her, which means he was at most 11 when the assaults started.
I’m not going to say any more except that she has never suggested before that he was but a child at the time.- Carol42
February 22, 2015 at 10:44 pm -
I noticed that, I think it must surely be a mistake, I don’t think even she is stupid enough to blame a child and call him a family friend! Assault by a child only a few years older puts a whole new slant on it and hardly fits her Kurd story.
- Carol42
- Carol42
February 22, 2015 at 10:44 pm -
Sorry meant lurid story!
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