Howlin' Woolf – For Whom the Axe Falls.
I think I’ll toss a new name into the hat full of suggestions for a person deemed suitable to drink from the poisoned chalice that is to be set in front of the ‘Chair’ of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse so recently vacated by Fiona Woolf.
What is needed, is someone truly impartial; neither overly deferential to the ‘establishment’ – nor ideologically bound to place blind faith in the word of the poor ‘victims’. Someone who has shown a lifetime dedication to the noble art of ‘even-handedness’, true equality of dealings between disparate groups. Someone who perhaps has a historic interest in righting past injustices?
I think I have just the man to sup from that cup.
Before I tell you who it is, let us look first at some of the current ‘favourite’ suggestions to replace Ms Woolf.
First a man whose practise it was to don lace cuffs, black breeches, buckled patent leather shoes – and silk, nothing but silk was good enough for his corpulence. He acquired his position in life through the ancient art of a whisper in the ear of the Sovereign by the second highest ranking Great Officer of the State, who had noted his suitability to give counsel to Her Majesty – it’s all positively Ruritanian, and couldn’t be further removed from Fiona Woolf’s humble role supporting tradesmen in the ‘square mile’ as the City of London is known. She may have got the lace collars and cuffs, but she was never sufficiently ‘establishment’ to presume to counsel the Queen!
I speak of course, of Michael Mansfield QC. Michael has earned a small fortune over the years, handsomely recompensed by the State for representing the likes of Arthur Scargill, anarchists who bombed their way through debate, and IRA activists, gaining a reputation for standing up for the ‘little man’ against the might and power of the State – unfortunately, as soon as the State stopped being fair enough to pay him handsomely and support his six children and glorious house in Hampstead for doing this in the name of justice – he stopped doing it and announced ‘with regret’ that his chambers were no longer taking on cases for the ‘little man’…..since when he has concentrated on his after dinner speeches and his media career. He has another ten years to go before he gets his pension – I can see the attraction of chairing the inquiry for him…I cannot, for the life of me, see how he could be described as ‘not establishment’.
Then we have Esther Rantzen. What can one say? Impartial? Unbiased? The TV researcher who persuaded a wealthy businessman to put up £500K to set up Childline in 1986 – a totally anonymous 24 hour a day help line which takes more than a million calls a year from children in trouble – but never heard a whisper about Britain’s Greatest (Dead) Paedophile – Jimmy Savile.
Rantzen became chairman of the charity and Caplin vice chairman, and they recruited an influential management board. The first donations came from the Department of Health and the Variety Club, and one of the first Trustees, the philanthropist Ian Skipper OBE who had already worked with Rantzen to create the Ben Hardwick fund, agreed to underwrite the running of the charity for the first year. BT donated the first premises, and gave them a simple and memorable freephone number (0800 1111). From the start ChildLine relied on volunteer counsellors, and still does, having now evolved a specific training for them, (they currently have around 1600 volunteers regularly donating their time and skill). The charity also relied, and relies, on the generosity of the public to pay for the calls, which are free to the child.
A man who by the latest reckoning spent ‘every waking moment’ plotting his latest abuse – and yet not one ‘victim’ in 30 years, that is some 30 million calls, ever mentioned Jimmy Savile? Eventually she sold Childline to the NSPCC. What makes anyone think that the supposed ‘victims’ of Savile are going to speak openly to this woman now? E’nuff said.
Then there is Jim Gamble. Now he’s an interesting one. On the one hand he’s been a senior policeman, presiding over Operation Ore and was the first chief executive of CEOPS, so he has experience of child abuse. But is that really the prime requisite for a chairperson? There job is to listen to all points of view and consult with all experts – legal, child protection, governmental, and arrive at a balanced, impartial conclusion. Can anybody so steeped in the horrors of child abuse really be that impartial?
There is another problem. Ian Pace, not an ‘abuse survivor’ himself, but a long time campaigner against such abuse – specifically at Colet Court, Meirion Jones’ old prep school; allegedly by Alan Doggett in the 1960s – a man who, inconveniently for clarity, threw himself under a train before his guilt could be tested in a court of law – has thrown some interesting light on previously ignored aspects of the ‘survivors’ objections to Fiona Woolf .
The media honed in on complaints that Fiona lived in the same road as Leon Brittain – but failed to mention the other major objection to her. That she was ‘too close’ to her Butler. Being ‘too close’ to your Butler is about as anti-establishment as it gets. A genuine member of the establishment would slit their throat or take up with the under-gardener before stooping to such a thing.
It was not so much that he was a humble butler that offended, but that he was an ‘acquitted blackmailer’. The highly vocal sex abuse campaigners have a new definition of ‘acquitted’ – it merely means ‘he got away with it’ in their eyes. Thus whilst Colin Tucker is an utterly innocent man in the eyes of the law, he was irredeemably tainted by having once stood trial in a matter concerning the alleged sexual shenanigans amongst the great and the good of the Scottish legal cabal. Clutching an ‘acquitted blackmailer’ to her bosom was a faux pas too far for Mr Pace – had she not quit, he would have endeavoured to make her no doubt innocent relationship with Colin Tucker more widely known.
The details of these are now well-known and need little extra rehearsing; suffice to say that I think if she had stayed in position, some of the seemingly less important connections (in particular concerning her steward Colin Tucker) would have been raked over more extensively in the media.
Which leaves something of a problem for Mr Gamble – for he also is clutching, figuratively speaking, an ‘acquitted blackmailer’ to his bosom. I do seriously doubt that Mark Williams-Thomas is to be found polishing Mr Gamble’s boots – or anything else for that matter – late at night; but if having a close relationship with an ‘acquitted blackmailer’ was a problem for Ms Woolf, then it must surely be a problem for Mr Gamble.
I nominate Herman Ouseley. Who he?
He’s the Peckham lad who made good. He became The Lord Ouseley of Peckham – and he made his name from his commitment to equality, and fairness, and justice for all. Just what this inquiry needs.
He is also the man who rang the Metropolitan Commissioner in the wee small hours – a brief couple of hours after a young black man had been stabbed in South London. He said ‘it was imperative’ that this stabbing be investigated as a racist crime.
Why ‘imperative’ – it might indeed have been the outcome of the police investigation that there was no more to this incident than the colour of Stephen Lawrence’s skin, but that phone call, from you might say, an interested body, excluded any possibility that this might have been no more than the tragic outcome of the tribal nature of young men in a working class society – not that it was the colour of Stephen’s skin that had led to the stabbing, but that he was not of the same ‘tribe’.
Herman Ouseley’s, then chairman of the Equality Commission, phone call that night, led inexorably to the Macpherson Inquiry which ultimately resulted in our police force groaning under the yoke of that ‘institutionally racist’ label.
That in turn led to one of the greatest sex abuse scandals in this country – Rotherham et al.
“To be accused of being racist is the biggest problem a police officer can have. In South Yorkshire, you feared to tread in certain areas because of the racial dimensions.”
Now that is current abuse, and we know the cause, so Herman Ouseley would seem to be an excellent and fitting person to unravel just how it was that our police force ‘fared to tread’ in certain areas.
Equality for all.
Yes, Herman Ousely. Would serve him right.
- Dioclese
November 4, 2014 at 10:54 am -
Howlin’ Wolf. Didn’t he write ‘I Just Can’t be Satisfied’ ?
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 11:14 am -
From what I hear Peter Wanless of NSPCC has already completed his report, whatever it was about, and he is now impatient because Theresa May is sitting on it and refusing to release it immediately. This new Inquiry will start sitting without a Chair anyway (perhaps they can on Theresa instead – I imagine they will in due course), so in that sense the lack of a chairperson makes no discernible difference anyway. I had to grin last night when Channel 4’s Jon Snow was interviewing some Scottish guy and it became apparent that none of this would make any difference to the survivors anyway since they already know it’s a cover-up. Peter Saunder was also interviewed, speaking…. like…. an….. Auton……
The Unspeakable in pursuit of the Unspoken, as Oscar might have phrased it, in this wickedly witty manner, back when a tart tongue made the ladies tremble and quiver.
- giles2008
November 4, 2014 at 11:18 am -
Esther Rantzen is heading back to tv.
She’s now involved in local programming on Freeview.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/That's_Solent
One can guess who the guests on her Saturday night show will be.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 11:35 am -
Maybe she can do a definitive expose of exactly which dark forces set fire to the garden shed and framed Melanie.
http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1304-paedophile-ring-whistleblower-melanie-shaw-sentenced-without-evidence-- Chris
November 4, 2014 at 11:44 am -
Good old Esther, she must be pretty flustered by it all and the poison seeds she sowed in good faith.
She was close friends with Lynsey de Paul, who was a close friend of Dave Lee Travis and was utterly outraged by Operation Yewtree.
She was friends with Rolf Harris too, and was visibly aghast at the lunatic verdict of his Witch Trial.
And here she is, speaking warmly – and, I detect, genuinely – about Britain’s premier philanthropist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqf2c5yi7TM- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm -
I wonder how many old men being abused by the courts are ringing Silverline and asking for her help.
http://www.thesilverline.org.uk/who-we-are/
Following a successful pilot The Silver Line was awarded a £5 million grant from the Big Lottery Fund in September 2013
- Moor Larkin
- Chris
- Moor Larkin
- Wendi
November 4, 2014 at 11:28 am -
Hmmm- I see Leo McKinstry is proposing the Labour MP for Rochdale, Simon Danczuk for the post.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 11:46 am -
Serves him right
- Moor Larkin
- Wendi
November 4, 2014 at 11:30 am -
Should have added that this is in the Express today
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/530647/Leo-McKinstry-Simon-Danczuk-man-lead-inquiry-child-abuse-claims- giles2008
November 4, 2014 at 11:46 am -
Whilst on the other hand they publish a link to an article having a go at his wife.
Interesting read it is too.
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/520631/Who-is-Karen-Danczuk
- giles2008
- Robert the Biker
November 4, 2014 at 11:47 am -
How about a box for ‘none of the above’? Why we are always expected to have political place-gits or similar dross is beyond me, it’s not like they’ve ever contributed to the world is it.
We lack statesmen nowadays, someone like Mountbatten would have been perfect for this.
How about Betty Boothroyd? She was always impartial and the best speaker for decades.- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 11:55 am -
Mountbatten?….
Oh dear!! The arch paedo himself!!….- Robert the Biker
November 4, 2014 at 12:04 pm -
Safely dead, perhaps they can dig him up like JS!
Hard to think of any statesman like figures nowadays, how about Putin- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 12:10 pm -
Our man in Rio, Peter Mandelson, would put the cat nicely amongst the chickens.
- Moor Larkin
- Robert the Biker
- carl
November 4, 2014 at 6:57 pm -
I listened to Danczuk and Clair Fox debating this issue on radio, or rather Clair Fox debating and Danczuk attempting his bully boy tactics by accusing her of ‘ harming victims ‘ and actively attempting to discourage others from ‘bravely coming forward ‘. As Clair Fox sagely observed these are the usual ‘silencing techniques’ of those who wish to prevent any rational debate about a highly charged issue.
- Moor Larkin
- GildasTheMonk
November 4, 2014 at 11:59 am -
Me. That is all.
- English Pensioner
November 4, 2014 at 12:10 pm -
I think that there are some amongst those abused who will object to anyone impartial and want someone who is clearly on “their” side in their desire to blacken the British Establishment. I suspect one could find a reason for opposing almost anyone and indeed, Domenic Grieve MP, the ex-Attorney General has suggested that we may need someone from outside this country.
Look at the reasons that can be used against anyone, however honorable:
1. Christians – the Church is accused of involvement in abuse, so any Christian is suspect.
2. Muslims – They believe in FGM which is abuse
3. Jews – They believe in circumcision which is abuse.
4. Police/ex-Police at any level as they did nothing.
5. No MPs, or elected Councillors as they could have been involved
6. Anyone involved in the justice system as they too did nothing
7. Anyone who worked for local councils in any capacity as councils were part of the problem
8. Anyone who has worked for the Civil Service as they have overall responsibility for the country’s administration
9. The Military, because they are one of the arms of the state which is to blame.
10. Anyone who knew anyone in any of the above groups, because they obviously turned a blind eye.The time you’ve been through this sort of list and added a few more that I haven’t thought of, there’s surely no one left capable of running the inquiry, especially as there are now starting to be objections to some of the people on the panel.
I have greatest sympathy with anyone who has been abused, but the antics and remarks by many on television who seem to have a personal vendetta against the world in general are beginning to make that sympathy run thin. I suspect by now, that any worthy people who might once have considered the role would now reject the poisoned chalice.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 12:13 pm -
Rebekah Brooks is surely untainted and clearly a woman of substance, with a track record of being tough on paedos and her old newspaper had a long and proud history of exposing lawyers, vicars and scout-masters.
- Peter Raite
November 4, 2014 at 2:11 pm -
I think Ross Kemp might object….
- Peter Raite
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 12:32 pm -
Great analysis, but there’s got to be some sort of mistake if, after all that, you’re only left with The Chuckle Brothers or Angelina Jolie
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 12:41 pm -
Chuckle Bros got DLT off as I recall, so completely unacceptable.
- Justin
November 4, 2014 at 3:08 pm -
Got to be Angelina then, hasn’t it.
Mmmmm. Howlin’ Milf.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 3:14 pm -
Got tattoo’s as well. Result.
- Moor Larkin
- Justin
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- Davd
November 4, 2014 at 12:47 pm -
I think we have reached the point were Diogenes of Sinope should be resurrected (if Jesus can be, why not dear old Diogenes), but not to be the panel’s chairman. Get the man to dust of his lantern and allow him to search every corner of our benighted nation; surely Diogenes will find someone suitable?
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 12:50 pm -
They probably need to increase the salary. The first rule of public service is that money talks.
- Moor Larkin
- The Jannie
November 4, 2014 at 12:56 pm -
“The media honed in on complaints” Don’t you mean “homed in on”? The media, like most shit, wouldn’t sharpen.
- Matt
November 4, 2014 at 4:41 pm -
Quite correct. And funny too. It won’t polish either. I’ve heard.
- Mudplugger
November 4, 2014 at 5:22 pm -
You may not be able to polish it, but you can roll it in glitter.
- Mudplugger
- Matt
- Ms Mildred
November 4, 2014 at 1:13 pm -
I wonder where is this agenda of delaying tactics is coming from? Mabe someone very crafty in the establishment is saying let’s appoint someone with a connection to you know who, however ephemeral, and they will be rejected by the pressure groups. Thus delaying the onset of this odd quest to examine the goings on at a no longer existing guest house. The chosen one must be a saint who is not biased to either side. Preferably anonymous, to the media, he/she could conduct the inquiry from under a paper bag with eye slits or best of all, an all enveloping robe. Perhaps the hope is that the main target of this farce will expire before it gets under way. Thus opening the way to that person being totally wasted a la Savile.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 1:44 pm -
They’ve been cracking on in N.Ireland since before savilisation even started on the mainland.
“On the 31st May 2012, the First Minister and deputy First Minister announced the Inquiry into Historical Institutional Abuse and advised the Assembly of the Chair of the Inquiry and the panel members for the Acknowledgement Forum.”
http://www.hiainquiry.org/index/background-and_legislation.htm- Cloudberry
November 4, 2014 at 2:26 pm -
The chosen one must be a saint who is not biased to either side. Preferably anonymous, to the media, he/she could conduct the inquiry from under a paper bag with eye slits or best of all, an all enveloping robe.
Charlton Heston? Just leave on the El Cid costume and replace the horse with the chair!- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 2:30 pm -
You’ll have to prise the bible into his cold, dead hand.
- Cloudberry
November 4, 2014 at 2:39 pm -
Not a problem for El Cid!
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 6:07 pm -
Sid James would at least make us laugh
- Moor Larkin
- Cloudberry
- Moor Larkin
- Cloudberry
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 2:34 pm -
Judge Dredd sounds just the man for this.
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 2:35 pm -
And if he’s booked on another gig , aren’t some of the cast of Gilligan’s Island still around?
- Ho Hum
- Moor Larkin
- Alexander Baron
November 4, 2014 at 1:18 pm -
Ousley is a clown, and a dangerous one. Esther may be a national institution but she is extremely gullible. It needs a High Court judge as I suppose it must now go ahead. And witnesses need to be properly cross-examined. It needs too to hear from people who have been falsely accused, thre is no shortage of those. Finally, let’s have some proper expert evidence, including Elizabeth Loftus.
- suffolkgirl
November 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm -
Never Herman Ousely. Not even for a laugh.
- Engineer
November 4, 2014 at 1:43 pm -
It’s been suggested that a Commonwealth figure might be brought in. I know it’s stretching ‘Commonwealth’ a bit, but how about Robert Mugabe? Pinning him down in an inquiry room in Warrington for a decade or so would at least stop him ruining Zimbabwe for a while, and the way things are going, this damned inquiry is doomed to be slated as a whitewash whatever it uncovers – even the unvarnished truth. With RM at the helm, the politically correct would at least think twice before screaming ‘whitewash’….
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm -
Princess Anne perhaps. She’ll know where all the bodies are buried.
- Robert the Biker
November 4, 2014 at 2:18 pm -
How about Prince Philip?
He’d soon see off the obvious piss takers- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 2:21 pm -
That would be the end of the Inquiry then… No way to run a Fund-raiser.
- Moor Larkin
- Engineer
November 4, 2014 at 10:44 pm -
Inquiries on horseback? Why not? I’m told that a brisk cross-country gallop clears the mind and invigorates the soul. Just what’s needed!
Mind you, I suppose there could be claims of victimhood by any fallers at the higher thorn hedges…
- Robert the Biker
- Moor Larkin
- JD.
November 4, 2014 at 1:48 pm -
A poisoned chalice, indeed.
Filled straight from the cesspit of private eye, MI5 & their murky world.What is not being paid attention to, is the political correctness which has so hampered honest investigation of child sexual abuse, as has been seen in Rotherham.
What bears looking into is The Frankfurt School, where the “Cultural Marxism” of PC hails from.
PC is aimed at the total destruction of our Western “Democracy”, rule of law, all religions & the family unit itself.
This can all be googled.For the larger picture & much longer timeline, I recommend William Guy Carr’s 1954 book, Pawns in the Game,
which traces the plot back in history, certainly to the 1770s, if not back 3000 years.
I’d appreciate feedback on this book, please.JD.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 1:58 pm -
* traces the plot back in history, certainly to the 1770s, if not back 3000 years *
That’s comforting. They’re plainly not actually very good at any of this stuff are they.
- Mrs Grimble
November 5, 2014 at 6:25 pm -
“PC is aimed at the total destruction of our Western “Democracy”, rule of law, all religions & the family unit itself.”
I thought that Agenda 21 was supposed to do all that?
- Moor Larkin
- GildasTheMonk
November 4, 2014 at 2:10 pm -
Leaving aside this omnishambles of hilarious proportions, what the hell is actually supposed to be achieved by this inquiry? My take is that the results of such inquiries are always written by “the Establishment” before the inquiry is held, and the rest of the spectacle is a join the dots exercise in getting to that result by hook or by crook. But the problem here is that no inquiry can come up with a PC conclusion that will keep anyone or everyone happy. I am just not sure what it is supposed to achieve.
I read an excellent piece by Ranty Man lately – a shocking story of his abuse. Abuse takes place – it always has, and it should be punished, but does anyone seriously think this fiasco can contribute constructively? Excuse me, but if there was a cover up of sexual abuse in Whitehall then why isn’t that a police matter?
What we did have was a Whitehall machine which was so “right on” it was soft on anyone who appeared to be against the decent values of the nation, and if that included kiddie fiddling so much the better, but it is a social policy issue.
No wonder so many Celebs of the PC brigade have decided to forgo the lucrative prospects of a couple of years of pontificating at public expense. - Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 2:20 pm -
* Abuse takes place – it always has *
Unlike witchcraft, it’s always been casting it’s spell for about forty years however.
- Joe Public
November 4, 2014 at 2:34 pm -
I’d nominate Susanne Cameron-Blackie. She demonstrably has the skills to recognise bullshit from both sides of most legal arguments.
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 2:38 pm -
Do that, and the next accusation out there would be that she’d been JS’ accomplice in his camper van
- GildasTheMonk
November 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm -
I agree with both points.
- GildasTheMonk
- Frankie
November 8, 2014 at 10:02 pm -
Damn! I was going to nominate ‘The Boss’!!
I heard a couple of days ago that the enquiry into alleged abuse by “Savile” as he is presently known is to be widened to encompass several other organisations he may or may not have visited…
Given that there are so many places he allegedly abused people already, how did the guy have the time to do anything else… like eat, f’r example?
- Ho Hum
- Fat Steve
November 4, 2014 at 3:32 pm -
Interesting that its all humour posted as comments ……the Savile affair and its offshoots are in my opinion the perfect metaphor for life in England at the present time …..Gosh do we remember that lost Golden Era when there were Establishment figures who achieved their status through ability and not through being politically savvy and working their contacts (or if they did were honest about it) …for those who doubt it look at Lord Devlin’s Report on Nyasaland and Harold Macmillan’s reaction to it (and Lord Devlin was honest how he came to be an Establishment figure but none doubted he was independent of it). And yes nowadays I can think of no one who isn’t thought to probably have an axe to grind and who might be seen as using it to make political capital and advance themselves…..except perhaps someone from the Military where I discern duty still may matter more than personal opportunity to get on ….and that amuses because I remember back to when the military in Third World countries were considered the last bastion against corrupt tin pot dictators and their cronies intent on aggrandising themselves at the cost of their citizenry……are we now a First World Country in material wealth and a Third World Country in terms of Institutional Integrity ……Could it be if the Chairman (sorry Chairperson) is nominated from outside the UK its an admission that no one in this Country can command respect? Well we have a Canadian Governor of the Bank of England don’t we?…..yes Savile’s life and death are truly a metaphor for Post war Britain
- Ancient+Tattered Airman
November 4, 2014 at 3:39 pm -
Unfortunately for all of us I reckon Fat Steve has hit the nail squarely on the head. What has happened to this country that it has sunk so far and so fast?
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 4:00 pm -
There’s something mildly ironic, if not marginally worrying, in typifying the merit of what is perceived as a lost ‘English’ Golden Era, with an authoritarian of immediate Northern Irish and Scots descent.
- Fat Steve
November 4, 2014 at 4:33 pm -
@Ho Hum I assume you are referring to Lord Devlin. and I have never heard him as authoritarian —traditionalist perhaps…. and right wing if one is minded to classify by personal perceptions of his politics though I have never known anyone venture opinion about his politics —-though yes of course about his views of the nature of Society though I don’t see that as justifying the term Authoritarian —-and a little anecdote (possibly apocryphal though widely accepted as illustrating the sort of man he was). When he was still a High Court Judge (the second youngest in the history of the English Judiciary) he would sit at the Old Bailey on some capital offences and when the jury gave a guilty verdict he would be compelled to pass the mandatory death sentence which he personally disagreed with. He would then return to his Chambers at his Inn and could be seen in tears for carrying out his duty. And Authoritarian (?) with his observations on the Bodkin Adams trial? —–perhaps your criticism of him is his ancestry (Macmillan’s was) but for the moment Ulster and Scotland remain in the Union though for how long is now a matter of doubt. I am content though to adopt him as a metaphor of an age when the Establishment was seen to serve its country rather than looking to benefit from it and thus enjoyed greater confidence from it ….personally I would go further than that but my opinion is irrelevant to the point in my original post as well as being uninteresting.
- Fat Steve
- Ancient+Tattered Airman
- Matt
November 4, 2014 at 5:02 pm -
This enquiry could be a money spinner for a decade. The “chair” may die before it finishes. I suggest a tribunal. A senior retired (retired young) Military man,to organise proceedings and discipline and keep them to the point, a senior Judge from anywhere using “English” law for forensic analysis of the horse manure presented by all those with agendas and—and—-and —I give up no wait Mark Steyn. Richard Littlejohn. James Delingpole. Melanie Phillips Andrew Neale. Anna Raccoon.
I’m too busy actually.
- Mudplugger
November 4, 2014 at 5:30 pm -
Tongue may have been in cheek, but I’d go along with Andrew Neil, always on top of the subject, a forensic questioner who can, and does, nail anyone down regardless of their affiliations, exposing their weaknesses or hypocrisy. Probably all the reasons why he would not be nominated.
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 6:05 pm -
Neil spent most of his 1990’s interview with Jimmy Savile slyly suggesting mummy’s boy Jimmy might prefer “male company”, so is as much of an idiot as the rest so far as I can see, especially since in the new Reality he’s nodded sagely like all the other monkeys.
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
November 4, 2014 at 6:06 pm -
This is only the Chairman you know. They will be the talking head of “the Committee”. No country for old men or women.
- Mudplugger
- Joe Public
November 4, 2014 at 6:50 pm -
Perhaps the intention is to delay the appointment, in order for the chief suspects to pop their clogs?
And the irony is, that this is perhaps the main website which has defended a deceased’s right to be innocent until proven guilty.
- AdrianS
November 4, 2014 at 7:04 pm -
Perhaps in the name of diversity a representative from ISIS lead the enquiry. It should then be quck and the punishment spectacular
- Engineer
November 4, 2014 at 10:37 pm -
True, but would they punish the guilty, or just innocent passing taxi-drivers?
- Engineer
- Cascadian
November 4, 2014 at 7:40 pm -
When conducting a circus you need clowns and large animals.
I therefore propose Beckham (either one), Kim Kardashian, John Prescott, Russell Brand. An even number sitting on a committee, that should work.
It would ensure the result required, keep Hatty Harperson happy, and re-establish the UK as “on the leading edge” of something-or-other.
- AdrianS
November 4, 2014 at 8:58 pm -
What about Posh Spice as well
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 9:03 pm -
I never realised Beckham was a twin. You learn something every day here
- Ho Hum
November 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm -
Oh! Unless you mean being as nefariously unevenhanded as having 5
- Fat Steve
November 4, 2014 at 11:43 pm -
@Cascadian When conducting a circus you need clowns and large animals,
Verily a turn of phrase worthy of the Raccoon Arms
- Fat Steve
- Ho Hum
- Ho Hum
- AdrianS
- Chris
November 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm -
Tosspot is having a good day – gleefully tweeting about some of his former Surrey Police colleagues being “under investigation” for his fictional Savile allegators earlier, and now he’s addressing his dim-witted flock with his “announcement” Michael Mansfield should be ‘the man’
- mike fowle
November 4, 2014 at 10:03 pm -
The scope of this enquiry looks to be so broad and historic that it will make the Saville enquiry (Bloody Sunday not JS) look like it passed in the blink of an eye. I reckon it will sit for about 10 years and then be wound up, either because the person in charge has died or it had become too expensive. And that’s the intention.
- Ho Hum
November 5, 2014 at 12:12 am -
Or, letting my cynicism off the leash again, they might just realise that the definitions that s0me of the protagonists, who will undoubtedly jump on this bandwagon to their own ends, might want to have used to define criminal activity, will result in immigration going through the roof as we have to import sufficient bodies to make up for the labour and skills gaps arising as a result of the number of people who will end up in jail
- Ho Hum
- johnbull
November 5, 2014 at 2:44 am -
Master Cameron and Mistress May
Were walking close at hand;
They wept like anything to see
Such quantities of sand:
“If this were only cleared away,”
They said, “it would be grand!”
“If seven M’luds with seven mops
Swept it for half a year.
Do you suppose,” Master Cameron said,
“That they could get it clear?”
“I doubt it,” said Mistress May,
And shed a bitter tear. - Alex
November 5, 2014 at 7:04 pm -
I can’t believe that Esther Rantzen was ever considered for the post. Am I mistaken in my belief that she was one of those who claimed she knew all about JS but was too scared to say so at the time, because of the fearful power he wielded? As for the NSPCC, it is my view that the organisation has an almost maniacal adgenda. It’s a great shame that Sherlock Holmes isn’t around – he never failed to uncover the truth. Oh hang on, didn’t he share rooms with another chap? Maybe not such a good choice. Seriously though, how about somebody like Lord Winston or maybe Richard Dwakins, highly intelligent and not afraid of confronting difficult issues?
- Peter Raite
November 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm -
It aseems that – in the early stages at least – Rantzen was claiming to have disbelieved “gossip,” rather than believing it and being fearful of Jimmy “Man of Power” Savile himself:
It could be argued, of course, that if Savile did indeed hold “power” by virtue of his position at the BBC, media profile, etc., than Rantzen could be said to equal, if not actual eclipse him in that respect.
Of your suggestions, I suspect that Lord Winston is too smart to want the job, while Dawkins would clearly the even more unacceptable to the alleged victims than the previous two short-lived incumbants, on account of his openly-acknowledged “no big deal” attitude towards a fiddly teacher at his own prep school:
https://richarddawkins.net/2013/09/the-world-according-to-richard-dawkins-the-times/
- Moor Larkin
November 6, 2014 at 5:09 pm -
The Scottish guy I mentioned in an earlier comment (who was on Ch4 News as a rep for the vic’s) also said that NSPCC were a haven for paedophiles. It was at that point that Jon Snow seemed to hurriedly close the interview down before the geezer started banging on about the masons.
- Alex
November 7, 2014 at 10:59 am -
Thank you Peter for that link. If it is true that she “was aware green room gossip”, then it strikes me that the pious old rat-bag should have spoken out at the time, especially in view of her part in setting up Child-Line. Strange isn’t it how folk of her ilk were falling over themselves to jump on the band wagon once it started rolling?
The Richard Dawkins information was new to me. Having read the article, I would suggest that he’s even better qualified for the post heading the enquiry. However, as you say, he probably wouldn’t be acceptable to the “victims” – goodness knows who would, apart from maybe MTW.
Moor, I hope you don’t think I was suggesting that the NSPCC is riddled with paedophiles? My point was that in my opinion the organisation seems to think that virtually every child on the planet is being abused in some way – maybe I should have been more specific. For instance I fundamentally disagree with their stance on dealing with bad behaviour.
- Alex
- Peter Raite
- Ms Mildred
January 4, 2015 at 11:55 am -
As this is around the time of my birthday 6/11; I thought I would add a couple of matters that have been opened to me in the last couple of days. First a comment on here that Cyprus troubles were ‘sectarian’. I came to Islington in 1959. A favourite place for Cypriots to flee to relatives, away from Cyprus. I worked with them, delivered their babies. Befriended some. Never once was a sectarian aspect dicussed. I recall EOKA and Makarios, yes he was Greek Orthodox. As far as I can recall it was a Greek/Turkish issue. Old enemies sharing a tiny Island+ release from the British yoke . At that time in our lives Islam was not seen as a threat. Another historical shift that does not, perhaps, apply?
Next on LBC yesterday a mature man from Rainham phoned in to meekly explain why this country has changed so much in behaviour over the last 50 years. He put it down to some aspects of feminism. The time honoured way of women being gentle, nurturing humans, mothers, child rearers, gently head of the household. They did not need to shriek and swear, tattoo, binge drink and ‘preload’, dress skimpily in order to feel fulfilled in life. He did not speak of women being bossily in positions of authority, who can order men to be named and persecuted to perdition>>>>>guilty just by being accused. He thought this mothering change and the pill and divorce had made us what we are now.
A nation without soul or purpose in these fraught times.
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