Eyeball Eyewash! – The Yewtree Allegations.
The mighty media have spoken, Savile, the country’s favourite cartoon predatory paedophile is in the dock once more. The Daily Mirror reporting:
“Jimmy Savile had sex with dead bodies in mortuary, shocking hospital report reveals”
Well, actually Pet, Kate Lampard’s report says that Witness N270, who worked at Broadmoor, not Leeds Infirmary, said that Savile had regaled some bored night nurses at Broadmoor with this wild story.
The report concluded that:”We have no way of proving Savile’s claim that he interfered with the bodies of deceased patients in the mortuary in this way”.
The Daily Mail claiming that:
“Jimmy Savile abused corpses and boasted he made jewellery from their glass eyes”
Which turns out to be yet another ‘my friend says that his aunt sat on a bus next to a woman who said’ story…Kate Lampard’s report actually says:
“Two witnesses told us that Savile claimed to have had jewellery made from glass eyes taken from bodies in the mortuary at the Infirmary. Whether these claims were made merely to shock his listeners, they again indicate and reinforce the notion of Savile’s fascination with the bodies of the deceased.”
Yeah! You can buy those rings on E-bay – dozens of them……
I have spent the afternoon reading through these reports, and the first reaction is one of utter shock – for the first time we can see the quality of the Yewtree allegations from the victims. We have looked at some of the ‘utterly trustworthy’ policemen who reported allegations to Yewtree before, but never before has the ridiculous nature of the Yewtree ‘victims’ allegations been exposed to public gaze.
I haven’t got time to write them all up now, but shall do so over the next few days, just for the record – but here are 8 to be going on with today.
Gaze in wonder at the hours of expensive NHS time that has been expended writing these reports, the hours of conference time, the NHS resources expended….enjoy!
Great Ormond Street Hospital. 43 exhaustive pages by Head of Clinical Governance & Safety and Head of Safeguarding & Named Nurse for Child Protection. Took 6 months of hard work.
Operation Yewtree reported that Jimmy Savile had committed a sexual offence against an in-patient at the hospital.
The investigation has been greatly hampered by the 42 years that have passed between the alleged incident and the investigation starting, and by the fact that the alleged perpetrator and alleged Victim are both deceased. There is no evidence to suggest that Jimmy Savile was at the Trust in the 1970’s (when the alleged incident was said to have taken place).
Informant reported that Jimmy Savile lifted the bed sheet of the Informant and looked at the scar which was from their navel to their private parts. Informant stated that Jimmy Savile did the same to the patient opposite them (the alleged Victim) and that the Informant witnessed Jimmy Savile masturbating the alleged Victim.
On investigation, it was discovered the Savile’s first visit to the hospital was some 15 years after this incident is alleged to have taken place, informant was in a totally different ward to the alleged victim, not even on the same floor, the alleged victim could not corroborate, on account of having died 4 weeks after the alleged incident, 42 years ago, and the Trust concludes:
The Investigating Team have concluded that due to the lack of confidence that the alleged Victim has been correctly identified, the difference between the dates of the documented visit to the Trust by Jimmy Savile, and the dates of admission and discharge for both the Informant and the alleged victim, it is not possible to say for certain if the alleged incident on the premises of Great Ormond Street Hospital took place….
Wheatfields Hospice, Leeds. 15 pages by the Head of Quality and the Regional Manager. 6 months work.
Operation Yewtree reported an incident involved a young woman under the age of 16 who was attending the opening event of this Hospice. The incident included inappropriate touching of her leg and inappropriate comments – all of which occurred in a public place.
Savile approached her directly, asking her age and what she was doing there, and saying ‘squeeze up’ as he wanted to sit right next to her. As he sat down, he stroked her leg and on feeling the suspender belt under her skirt, stared at her before announcing ‘grownup, wearing stockings, goodness gracious me’ to the room full of people.
This ‘victim’ is included within the Leeds report, as N27 – to avoid her having to repeat a distressing account more times than was necessary…
The incident was not reported at the time by the victim, her family or anyone attending the event. On balance the victim’s statement is consistent with the written accounts of the opening ceremony at Wheatfields Hospice and JS’s attendance at this event. The Lead Nurse found the victim to be a credible witness, however due to the length of time between the incident and it coming to light there are no further witnesses to confirm this.
In the author’s opinion, this confirms Operation Yewtree’s announcement that ‘He groomed a nation’. (????)
High Royds Hospital, Leeds. 16 pages by the Lead Clinician for Safeguarding Adults.
Operation Yewtree reported two victims who came forward and disclosed that Savile had abused them twenty-five years ago – they were were ‘understandably uncertain of the precise date and nature of the event where the incidents took place’.
There is extremely limited scope to investigate the actual allegations effectively as neither alleged victim is able to remember the names of witnesses and both parties stated that they did not report the incident formally at the time.
In her statement X (the service user aged 44 at the time) described how, during a fancy dress fun run Savile put his hand up her skirt and rubbed her bottom, she also observed him doing the same to a nurse ‘L’.
Witness ‘Y’, who was a member of staff, said: He came round and introduced himself to the team, and he was just very free with his hands, so hands going round people, round their waist but then upwards, cupping under breasts, hands up the skirt.
Two of the staff recall a service user (LL) who was at High Royds Hospital at the time who had a fixed belief that he actually was Jimmy Savile and that concern had been raised as to what effect meeting the real Jimmy Savile would have on him. He was detained on the ward for the day as a risk management measure. Generally though Savile’s presence was welcomed and regarded as a positive boost for the hospital and its service users.
It is difficult to draw conclusions on these two allegations without being influenced by the weight of public opinion surrounding Savile and the emerging evidence now in the public domain, but X and Y’s claims are modest, plausible and difficult to refute.
Dewsbury and District Hospital. 25 pages by Head of Safeguarding that took a mere 9 months to compile.
Operation Yewtree reported a disclosure by Ms X that whilst she was an inpatient on a ward in Dewsbury hospital, Savile sexually assaulted her by attempting to lay on top of her and “French kissing” her. Ms X was 15 years old at the time. In a second separate incident a member of staff overheard Savile make a lewd comment about a young woman who was an inpatient.
Due to the historic nature of the incident and the lack of documentary evidence the investigation team were unable to find any evidence to corroborate Ms X’s account of the alleged incident. However Ms X’s GP records showed she was an inpatient at the time that the alleged incident took place and therefore the investigators conclude that the alleged incident took place.
The investigation into the second incident concluded that the Ward Sister should have reported this incident at the time.
The Royal Hospital, Portsmouth A commendable 6 page report by the Director of Corporate Affairs. All by himself.
An alleged sexual abuse reported to Operation Yewtree: committed by Jimmy Savile against a patient at the Royal Hospital in Portsmouth in 1968. This information is related to an allegation by an individual who said that he had been told that he had been abused by Jimmy Savile but that victim had no recollection of the incident. The victim did not know the name of the witness to the alleged abuse who told him that it had occurred.
No interviews of staff have been conducted, as the only staff member involved was the cleaner who had supposedly witnessed the alleged attack. It has not been possible to identify this witness as the complainant was unable to provide a name or description of her. No documentary evidence exists that confirms this or any other visit to the hospital by Jimmy Savile.
I have been provided with a summary of the interview, conducted by Gosport Police at the complainant’s local police station, which includes descriptions and assertions by the complainant that appears to be either fanciful or impossible. Gosport Police state in their summary that they do not consider him to be a credible witness. The complainant was asked, during his interview with the Police, why he had only now come forward with the allegation. He replied that ‘he might be believed as others had reported the same and that he wanted the BBC to be fined and held to account as they knew what was going on and chose not to investigate’.
Details provided to me during my interview with the complainant were broadly similar to those given to the Police, although there were some significant differences and 5 omissions. However, this is perhaps not necessarily surprising when considering the time that has elapsed since the alleged incident and that the complainant suffers from schizophrenia and memory loss.The complainant told me, when I asked why he had chosen to speak out about the incident after 46 years, that he wanted some compensation.
Saxondale Hospital, Nottinghamshire. 22 page report by Local Services Risk Manager and Company Secretary. Mills and Reeve Solicitors. Report took a year to be approved.
In summary, Ms X reported to Operation Yewtree that, as a teenager and local resident (not a patient) she had attended a fund raising disco hosted by JS at Saxondale Hospital in or around 1971/72. During the course of this disco, Ms X alleges that JS had raised her skirt by a “few inches” with a “hockey stick”.
There is no indication that JS had contact with the hospital outside of these fund raising events. During the course of the investigation there was no evidence identified to indicate that JS had access to or unsupervised contact with patients at Saxondale Hospital.
St Catherine’s Hospital, Birkenhead 37 page report by Chief Executive, Wirral Community NHS Trust and Director of Performance. 2 months to produce report.
In summary, according to the 14 year old victim’s account, the incident took place when Jimmy Savile came to the ward on which she was a patient, accompanied by the hospital matron and some other people. He pulled back the covers of her bed, jumped into bed with her and touched both the top of her thigh and her bottom. He quickly got off the bed and moved on.
The incident caused amusement, according to the victim, among those present but no comment was made about it to her at the time or after. Operation Yewtree recorded this as “a crime of sexual touching”.
A detailed investigation of archive records was undertaken but identified no record of Jimmy Savile visiting the former St Catherine’s Hospital. The conclusion that he visited in 1964 is based on the evidence of the victim, supported by limited evidence from two former members of staff. Of those interviewed, two former staff members recalled Jimmy Savile visiting St Catherine’s Hospital in either 1964 or 1965 but neither were able to shed further light on the specific incident under investigation. Patient health records are not retained as far back as nearly 50 years. No other allegations have been made.
Leavesdon Hospital 47 page report by independent Management Consultant assisted by associate in Capsticks Solicitors. 3 months to produce report after board meetings with The Board of Hertfordshire Partnership University NHS Foundation Trust.
This investigation was set up after an informant “telephoned Operation Yewtree to say that in the 1970’s she was a singer and dancer and attended charity functions with Jimmy Savile. She stated she also went to Top of The Pops and Jim’ll Fix It and that she wanted it known that at no point did JS touch her inappropriately and she never felt intimidated by him. She was part of a dancing troupe between the ages of five and fourteen and mentions having visited Leavesden Hospital as one of a number of locations visited.”
After three months, and interviewing 45 people who had some tangible connection to Leveson Hospital the report concluded that not only was this ‘Giving victims a voice’ claimant, not only not a victim, (as she said in the beginning) 10 credible witnesses identified as having worked at Leavesden Hospital in the 1970s gave corroborating evidence indicating that although the troupe had performed at the hospital – JS never visited Leavesden Hospital at any time during their employment at the hospital, including before and after the 1970s.
Maudsley Hospital 21 page report by Director of Quality Assurance assisted by Partner in legal firm Bevan Brittan. 4 months to produce after board meetings with the Trustees and Directors of Maudsley Hospital.
“This investigation was set up after information had come to light which alleged that Savile was seen on the Maudsley Hospital site in 1964 or 1965.”
Mr B. The informant stated that he had spotted Savile on two occasions crossing the Maudsley hospital site in 1964/65.
“There is no reason to doubt the credibility of Mr B’s account, but there was no evidence of allegations or information suggesting any wrongdoing by Savile on these occasions.”
“In 1980 Savile came to open a new unit on the Bethlem Royal Hospital site.”
Again no evidence of any allegation having been made or information suggesting any wrongdoing by Savile associated with this event.
“A possible connection to the Maudsley Hospital with Dr Anthony Clare who interviewed Savile for a BBC Radio 4 series ‘In the Psychiatrist’s Chair’ in 1991.”
Er. The interview was conducted eight years after Dr Anthony Clare had left the Maudsley, and there was no allegation or information suggesting any connection between Savile and the Maudsley Hospital.
- Margaret Jervis
June 26, 2014 at 4:48 pm -
Brilliant Anna. It seems once again that the truth is hiding in plain sight – if only the ‘investigators’ could see and were able to reason from the absence of any contemporaneous evidence. At what point does anybody in authority say boo to the goose? And I note that , following new CPS guidelines (which are only about the prosecution in criminal investigations – not a kangaroo reception committee ) allegators have not been assessed at all as to reliability and overall credibility. At their highest these reports are merely a prima facie case for the prosecution in respect of allegations (which much that would be inadmissible). They don’t even have the grace to preface their findings with this proviso. Grotesque – and what of the media critiques – any forthcoming? Only heard the BBC so far which went beyond the reports themselves in ‘reporting’ them!
- JuliaM
June 26, 2014 at 5:36 pm -
Bravo indeed! But it’ll do no good. People don’t want to examine critically, they want to accept…
- JuliaM
- carol42
June 26, 2014 at 5:00 pm -
I don’t think it will make the slightest difference now Anna. All these vague accusations, even the ones which can’t be true, are being reported as fact on TV and the press tomorrow will be even worse. If he did all the things he was supposed to have done he wouldn’t have had time for anything else! It is really very sad that no one in the media is doing real journalism any more.
- JuliaM
June 26, 2014 at 5:36 pm -
THIS! Sadly.
- JuliaM
- Gil
June 26, 2014 at 5:03 pm -
It’s beginning to sound like something out of the Brothers Grimm. Quite amazing so many people could have ignored such escapades for so long and surely reassuring for all wearers of body-part jewellery around the country!
- suffolkgirl
June 26, 2014 at 5:09 pm -
The BBC reporting is just extraordinarily accepting. I suppose they don’t dare challenge any Savile story now. Will any MSM do so, I wonder?
- Engineer
June 26, 2014 at 5:16 pm -
Savile is now taking over from Margaret Thatcher as Chief Ogre, responsible for everything from stamping on kittens to the Norman Invasion, the eruption of Mount St Helens, every rape in the UK from 1965 to the present day, traffic chaos on the M25 and the extinction of the dinosaurs.
If Savile was responsible for half the molestations and indecencies he is accused of, he’d never have had any time left over to appear in television programmes.
I’ve just switched off BBC Radio 4 news. The supposedly responsible and impartial broadcaster sounded more like a gutter tabloid, the way it was reporting this.
- James Masterton
June 26, 2014 at 5:22 pm -
I increasingly feel I am caught up in a maelstrom of madness. Media accepting these tales unquestioningly, ministers standing up in the House of Commons and blithely committing taxpayers money to “compensate” people for decades old stories in the event that the wedge of money that is supposed to at this moment be benefiting the unfortunate and the impoverished runs out before everyone has been sated with their desire for freebies. Yet even the most casually critical eye can blast huge gaping holes through the claims, give rise to questions and point out the sheer physical impossibility of some of it. Yet those of us who have the nerve to do so are sneered at and abused. I stayed quiet after the first time someone tried to have me disciplined at work for putting forward the view that this scandal is to nobody’s benefit but grasping lawyers. I cannot remain silent any longer.
- Chris
June 26, 2014 at 5:28 pm -
Ah yes James – much “fun” to be had with the hand-wringers on Twatter (always see themselves as ‘socialists’ too). Suggesting something outrageous like ‘the fact that people didn’t like him makes the allegations less likely to be true, not more’ is likely to result in being shunned as ‘an apologist’ or ‘denialist’.
- Ho Hum
June 26, 2014 at 5:54 pm -
All of our politicians, when in power, want things like this to just go away, unless they can clearly pin it on the other lot. If they can’t do that, then they are of no interest, a distraction, a downright nuisance, and sometimes worse, something that can, by association, make them look BAD. Their take on such is usually that it is worth almost any price to make the problem disappear, and if doling out a bit of dosh is needed, and that makes them look good too, so much the better.
You’ve more chance of getting truth and justice from Santa
- Joe Public
June 27, 2014 at 6:55 am -
“All of our politicians, when in power, want things like this to just go away, …………..”
I have the opposite opinion – that the furore presents them with excellent opportunities to … “bury bad news”.
- Joe Public
- Chris
- Mr Ecks
June 26, 2014 at 5:24 pm -
The sheer volume of bullshit levels has now passed any point of sanity.
_1000 “sex crimes” at the BBC
-The Met claiming that 21 childrens homes were sending Saville kids to abuse-he must have been a busy man.
-Failed attempts to line him up as a serial killer.
-Satanism
-Now fiddling with corpses–Jesus H. (Some idiot has prob watched the movie “Things to do in Denver when you’re Dead” in which actor Treat Williams plays a crazed criminal who has a night job at a mortuary and hangs the embalmed corpses on a chain to use them as punchbags, claiming that this is much more realistic than boxing-style heavy bags.)Silly sods.
- ivan
June 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm -
Exactly how much has all this stupidity cost us so far? If that is the quality of the evidence then all those at the Met should be sacked as incompetent.
The Daily Mail are censoring comments like mad apparently trying to keep their credibility going, or is it just to get clicks.
- James Masterton
June 26, 2014 at 5:32 pm -
I noticed a tweet from David Icke crowing “See! All those years I told you Savile was a paedophile who interfered with dead people (sic). Turns out I was right…”
Except that none of his writings, speeches or pronouncements made any mention of his name until a year after his death and after the ITV fiction was broadcast. Does he really think this isn’t checkable?
- Chris
June 26, 2014 at 5:36 pm -
I replied to that. The man’s a buffoon – 23 years ago he obviously hero-worshipped Sir Jim (what other reason can their be for rocking the turquoise shellsuit look on Wogan?)
- Chris
- Ho Hum
June 26, 2014 at 5:33 pm -
Our free press is so sadly predictable, casting the truth out of plain sight and into their miserably mercenary inspired darkness
But that’s just the sideshow to all this.
Anyone want to make any predictions as to, or bet on, who in which groups are aiming to profit from this, for now quietly waiting in the shadows, aiming to emerge later with a whole raft of new puritanical rules, regulations and laws to impose on the way adult people conduct their adult relationships, to force them to bring those into conformity with their image of what these should be? Or what will first be targeted, and how long it will take for these to make it through a supine HoC, whose members will not dare speak a word in public against them?
This is no longer the sort of battle that took place over Salem, or Hopkins, when men of morality and courage could challenge the veracity and sense of what was being done, and hope to be listened to, is it?
- JuliaM
June 26, 2014 at 5:38 pm -
No. It isn’t.
- corevalue
June 26, 2014 at 6:55 pm -
I have to agree that there must be a higher agenda to all this. MWT and others are just the foot soldiers, who are the generals, and what is their ultimate aim? Be sure, that “steps will be taken to make sure this can never happen again”.
- JuliaM
- Jonathan Mason
June 26, 2014 at 5:37 pm -
I was at St. James’s Hospital in Leeds where at least one of the allegations is located, but all I can tell you is that Savile was never at “Jimmies” any time between 1975 and 1979 as I would certainly have heard about it. I think he had activity crosstown at Leeds General Infirmary during this period. I was also at High Royds Hospital at Menston near Leeds for most of 1976. I don’t think Savile had ever been there up to that point, as I never heard it mentioned, but he may have visited later.
If this information is of any use at all, then so be it.
- Jonathan Mason
June 26, 2014 at 5:39 pm -
These allegations are terrible lame. There may indeed have been a pattern of “horsing around” that would not be acceptable in the current moral climate, but at the time what we used to call “flirting” was seen in a different way from sexual assault.
- Jonathan Mason
June 26, 2014 at 5:59 pm -
People will believe what they want to believe.
In the case of Susan of Duncroft, most readers of this blog will take the fact that Savile stopped whatever he was doing as soon as he discovered Susan was only 15 as exculpatory, but members of the modern New Puritan movement will observe that although he stopped, he had already touched her in some manner and was thus already deserving of several years imprisonment, and that he continue to “groom” her by maintaining contact at Duncroft while he waited for her to be legal.
Both sets of minds can see the same facts, and yet one set will see innocence and the other guilt.
- rabbitaway
June 26, 2014 at 6:07 pm -
Of course everyone has seized on the morgue stories. One tweeter today had a photo of a necklace sold at Jimmy’s auction in Leeds in July 2012. I checked it out – here it is folks ‘an artificial eye mounted pendant’ Strewth !
http://www.dreweatts.com/cms/pages/lot/13560/213
No rings with artificial eyes listed – strange, given the FACT that Jimmy kept everything else inc plastic cigar cutters !!!! - Frankie
June 26, 2014 at 6:13 pm -
A predictable outcome… Creepy Sir James Wilson Vincent “Jimmy” Savile, OBE, KCSG, a serial fund raiser and charity hero being rubbished in death – accused of all sorts of extreme behaviour, on the most ludicrous of evidence (or no actual, credible ‘evidence’ at all, it seems, that would have satisfied a court, to the criminal burden of proof) while nothing was done to expose him in life – on the grounds that everyone was scared of this mega celebrity.
Being odd, eccentric and decidedly creepy doesn’t make you a sexual predator in and of itself, and if you wish to make an allegation, at least get your facts correct (0r, at least credible).
- Moley
June 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm -
My husband tried to get in to Top of The Pops when he was eleven but they wouldn’t let him in. Does that count? He says he would like some free money. I also have a flute made from a human thigh bone for sale if anyone is interested, but I didn’t steal it from a mortuary.
- johnd2008
June 26, 2014 at 6:45 pm -
I have met Jimmy Saville twice in Aylesbury. He looked and acted as a strange old man. Can I have some compensation please?
- The Stigler
June 26, 2014 at 6:47 pm -
I do find it statistically weird that none of the huge numbers of alleged victims went to the police.
Sexual abuse is a terrible crime, it has a very low rate of reporting, but out of 60 victims none came forward for decades? And really, of all the nurses in the hospitals who knew it was going on, not one came forward? Not one decided that to hell with their job being at risk, they would go to the police? Because either it’s lies, or else we’ve got some pretty terrible people in this country running hospitals that allow abuse to occur.
And please, Jimmy Savile was not Don Corleone. He was, if anything, someone that people laughed at in his later years. A slightly odd figure, and if you’d suggested 5 years ago that he had *connections* people would have thought you’d lost it. He was a faded old star, an embarassment from a previous time like Jim Davidson.
- Michael Massey
June 26, 2014 at 7:08 pm -
During my 30 years as a civil servant I dealt with many thousands of letters to figures of authority from the Queen down. Most were from people genuinely and reasonably unhappy in one way or another about real problems and wanting “something to be done”. Rarely were they driven by thoughts of claiming compensation which is a relatively recent development.
But quite a large proportion were from sad folk who were clearly disturbed – and that is after the most loony ones had already been filtered out. It is quite possible that we did not take seriously some that were genuine.
However I shudder to think about what the activities of grasping no win no fee lawyers have done to the volume of spurious allegations that are now produced.
- Mudplugger
June 26, 2014 at 8:26 pm -
And thereby you hit the nub of the current fact-free hysteria – it is one generated and maintained by those positioned for maximum gain from it, and that’s the disreputable conditional fee brigade. It’s not about ‘victims’, real or imagined, it’s simply a cold-headed commercial opportunity.
As the banks’ PPI mis-selling compo runs down, those vermin have got to find another growth area with deep pockets: the NHS and the BBC both fit the bill, and will willingly pay the bill. Disgrace all round.
- Ho Hum
June 26, 2014 at 10:39 pm -
Totally agree. There’s a challenging art form, all of its own, involved in writing reports / responses to complaints from the more intelligent from amongst the stranger of these characters, one covering the issues involved at the level of detail which might satisfy their perceived ‘intellectual and organisational superiority’, whilst at the same time conveying to other readers that they, and yourself, are dealing with someone who clearly has more than a few loose screws in whatever part of their anatomy is supposed to be keeping them attached to reality
Funny to look back at now, but not always amusing at the time. And seeing money occasionally thrown at the worst of them, just to get rid of them, was always a bit sad, even is sometimes quite understandable when trying to preserve the sanity of those who had to deal with them, sometimes for years on end
- Woman on a Raft
July 1, 2014 at 8:39 am -
It was also claimed that another victim of Harris wrote to Buckingham Palace in 1995 warning that he had abused her.
The woman allegedly told royal staff: “He ruined my life. You need to know what kind of man you’ve let near the Queen.”
The anonymous letters were passed to Scotland Yard’s Royal Protection Group who deemed them credible and they were logged as intelligence.What a pity they didn’t investigate. Even if they thought it was baseless, they still failed to protect the Queen from embarrassment. Still, we can’t have our meejah celebrities challenged, can we?
- Woman on a Raft
- Mudplugger
- Matt
June 26, 2014 at 7:11 pm -
All I can say is that I’m so very glad he was not a regular visitor to Battersea Dogs Home. Or have I missed it?
- Duncan Disorderly
June 26, 2014 at 7:13 pm -
Savile has passed into folklore. Hundreds of years from now people will be talking about Savile’s alleged crimes and will have embelished them further. The Lynley Hood book ‘A City Possessed’ refers to the the Minnie Dean case in New Zealand that occurred over a hundred years ago. According to the book, many people nowadays believe that nothing grows over her grave, and that she fed victims to pigs and so forth. I noticed from the Wikipedia entry on her that somebody recently put a headstone over where she was buried. Is there hope yet?
- Hubert Rawlinson
June 26, 2014 at 9:20 pm -
Yes, I think you may well be spot on there. In the future mothers will warn the children to “Be home before dark or else Jingle Jangle Jimmy will fix you!!! His legend will, by then, have become thoroughly enmeshed with many others, giving us the prospect of Uncle Jimmy leading a “Wild Hunt” of notorious Yorkshire bogeymen comprising of Donald Neilson, a.k.a “The Black Panther”, Peter Sutcliffe, a.k.a “The Yorkshire Ripper”, Barry Prudom “The Phantom of the Forest”, Mary Bateman “The Leeds Witch” and Peter Jaconelli, the overweight Scarborough ice cream salesman, accross the stormy night skies of Yorkshire, forever in search of the souls, or some say the assholes, of unbaptised children!!! They do say, if one listens really hard, on a dark and stormy night, that one can hear the terrifying sound of Jimmy’s jewellery jangling!!! Though, of course, this cannot be confirmed in any real or factual way because it is said that to hear Jimmy’s Jangle spells certain death for the listener!!! Hence the distinct lack of real or credible witnesses!!!
- Duncan Disorderly
June 27, 2014 at 5:09 am -
And he can be summoned to kill one’s enemies by burning a fine cigar in a fire, whilst saying “please, please, please Jimmy fix it for me!”
- JuliaM
June 27, 2014 at 8:33 am -
/applause
- JuliaM
- Duncan Disorderly
- Hubert Rawlinson
- bj
June 26, 2014 at 7:25 pm -
So nice to read a few sane comments for a change. No doubt JS was a sexual predator but these weirdos tend to have a ‘type’. The idea that he abused boys and girls from infants to the edlerly and abused coma victims and the dead are just plain laughable.
- Mr Ecks
June 27, 2014 at 7:50 am -
There is very considerable doubt as to what Saville has supposedly done. That is the point.
- Mr Ecks
- GD
June 26, 2014 at 7:58 pm -
I am left wondering how long a person would have to root around the deceased at Broadmoor to come close to matching a pair of cufflinks…
HOW MANY INMATES did they even have with glass eyes? Dead or alive?
- Michael Massey
June 26, 2014 at 8:20 pm -
I’ll keep an eye out for you – to borrow from old joke.
- Michael Massey
- English Pensioner
June 26, 2014 at 8:19 pm -
I saw him once on television and thought he was so weird that I stopped watching the programme.
Now the TV news keeps showing his picture.
Who do I go to for compensation for my distress? - MG
June 26, 2014 at 9:33 pm -
My mother has nothing but praise for JS. She knew him back in the 60s before I was born.
Describes him as a gentleman with a caring personality.
She does not believe a word of the allegations.
My stepfather never knew either my mum or Savile in the 60s. However he did meet Savile by chance at an event around ten years ago. To his surprise Savile recognised my mum on sight and they soon recalled old times.
Mum only told me about her acquaintance with Savile after the claims surfaced. I was skeptical (rose tinted memories) but my stepfather telling me what a decent bloke he seemed made me seriously think about the whole thing. Reading this blog – especially the Duncroft/Susan articles has me convinced this entire bandwagon is driven by greed, mental illness or false memories.
- Ian B
June 26, 2014 at 10:11 pm -
I just went out to the Chinese to grab a takeaway and their telly was on, with a Savile “news” report, Channel 4. The sound was basically inaudible, and watching the video was such a sad experience. They’d take various footage of Savile and, universally, slowed it down to create a haunting effect, concentrating on close up shots where he could appear to “loom” in slow motion. But if you filtered that deliberate distortion out, you saw nothing but footage of a tireless charity worker- running marathons, acting as a porter, talking to patients, meeting and greeting, and so on. It was terribly sad to watch, knowing how the other people in the shop- and across the nation- were in the main swallowing the presented narrative.
- Chris
June 26, 2014 at 11:46 pm -
It’s beyond misguided – it is, frankly, evil. And yet so few of us seem to be able to see what is going on.
It is Through The Looking Glass – should we grateful we can see it when so many have their heads in the sand? Ignorance is bliss – and not being ignorant is certainly both a blessing and a curse.
What the clear aim is, ludicrous as it may sound, is to sweep away the truth about Jimmy Savile and the Great British Public. FACTS like this “monster” was a widespread target for comedy derision for the last 40 years of his life are now being denied – all comedy sketches removed from DVD sets (Two Ronnies etc) as if they never existed. No clips of Jimmy being what he was – jovial light entertainment anchor who, as so many people do in all walks of life, grew more eccentric and crotchety as he grew older. Everything excised. Highly sinister, and I’m afraid the genie is out of the bottle and no matter how idiotic the people born after 1988 are, you cannot change facts for those born before that.
To be frank, I’d rather be dead than accept and live with any of this shit (the masses are dead, soul-wise, if they weren’t they wouldn’t feel the need to tell everybody how ‘happy’ or ‘blessed’ they are all day everyday) – and if that means being at odds with every other tiresome prick in the land then so be it – I’m not crippled with any political or class dogma and I can see the wood for the trees, thank you very much.On a positive note, I am so glad I educated and de-programmed myself in my twenties. It must be awful not trusting your own judgement and having such low self-esteem you feel obligated to go along with every bit of bullshit. Makes it a lot easier knowing right from wrong in these silly times.
- Chris
- suffolkgirl
June 27, 2014 at 12:09 am -
Interesting the Guardian, among it’s plethora of Savile stories has one, “the Savile story in detail ” which does record that some complaints are unable to be corroborated and two are clearly wrong. However this article is a lone voice among many, and isn’t allowing comments, so is likely to drown in tbe tide.
- Peter Raite
June 27, 2014 at 8:49 am -
From the reports I looked at yesterday, at least four are clearly false, i.e. Cardiff Royal Infirmary, De La Pole Hospital, Great Ormond Street Hospital, and Queen Victoria Hospital East Grinstead.
- Peter Raite
June 27, 2014 at 9:05 am -
Actually, that should be five, as I forgot The Royal Hospital Portsmouth.
- Peter Raite
- Peter Raite
- sally stevens
June 27, 2014 at 12:58 am -
I am minded of the famous Jack Nicholson statement from A Few Good Men, i.e. “You can’t handle the truth!” and I’m afraid this is relative to a large portion of the British public who, for reasons of their own, steadfastly believe Jimmy Savile to be a Very Bad Man.
Here at last we see the truth start to emerge, like a transformed caterpillar struggling from its cocoon. A slow process, but in the end, well worth the wait.
Another member of the staff of Duncroft, the deputy headmistress, a former nun with no time for nonsense, recently spoke to another ex-pupil. She has also been extensively interviewed by the police. She said that Jimmy was a ‘toucher,’ the hand-kissing business which she did not care for personally, but she did not believe he was a paedophile. She would have had occasion to observe him and his interaction with the girls of the days, and knowing her as I did, she was a micro-manager. Almost nothing escaped her. She’d learned to walk on soft kitty-kat feet and listen at keyholes. Let alone, she was from Yorkshire herself. Jimmy passed muster.
Thanks, Anna, as usual, for your precise reporting. - erichardcastle
June 27, 2014 at 1:06 am -
How did they investigate the claim he interfered with dead bodies?. Did they use reputed former cop Mark Williams-Thomas who has history in dealing with morgues?. After all he deduced once that 2 bodies were being buried in one coffin.
Will this open a new round of claimants?. Relatives off any deceased who were once in a hospital morgue at a hospital Savile once visited?
Aussie “recovered memory” expert Liz Mulliner could help here as she discovered her own abuse at Guys Hospital 9by her dad) by visiting a pyschic. Surely sessions could be held with leading clairvoyants, a round circle in suspected morgues.One doctor is quoted in this ridiculous report as saying he had an “unhealthy” interest in dead bodies. But couldn’t the same be said of her as she no doubt has declared patients as dead at some stage. what about nurses who deal with the dying every day ?. Or morgue workers, embalmers, cematery workers and even my cousin who has compiled an extensive family tree going back 300 years?. She delves into the lives of the dead on a daily basis as a hobby. Unhealthy?
What frightens me , as so many above have mentioned, is the ease that this is being promoted and accepted and passing into folk lore with no public figure daring to question for fear of ridicule.
That should worry everyone far more than anything Savile si reputed to have done.- Jonathan Mason
June 27, 2014 at 5:46 am -
One doctor is quoted in this ridiculous report as saying he had an “unhealthy” interest in dead bodies.
I think at the time working in a morgue was seen as a kind of ghoulish thing that was outside the experience of most ordinary people except in TV detective stories and horror movies , and therefore something to boast about in a macho kind of way if you actually had first hand experience. Whatever Savile said just sounds like rather juvenile bragadoccio.
Incidentally one of the reports had Savile boasting about “garamooshing” the corpses, a euphemism for oral sex. This appears to be a corruption of the rather Victorian term “gamahuching” which also means having oral sex and is derived from a French word. Maybe this is what Savile called it, or is it simply an inaccurate recollection? I don’t know. Anyway, the whole thing just sounds like macabre graveyard humour to me.
- Ian B
June 27, 2014 at 6:15 am -
It sounds like what we used to call a wind up, or leg-pulling to me. People often tell macabre or off-colour stories for humorous effect. We don’t know what the original story contains- remembering somebody else telling a story must be one of the most unreliable memories there is- but “my rings are glass eyes”, apparently triggered from somebody saying they looked a bit like that, is so obviously banter that any other interpretation is a real indication of how far removed from reality this whole thing has got.
Presumably we’ll have to start hauling in every adult who has told a macabre, spooky campfire story to wide-eyed kids, now.
“Did you or did you not, Mr Smith, tell these vulnerable children that ‘the booger-monster snapped up every child in its fiendish, slavering jaws and gobbled them up, one by one’?”
- Ian B
- Jonathan Mason
- Jim Bates
June 27, 2014 at 2:18 am -
Thanks again Anna for a proper examination of the details.
During twenty years working as a forensic examiner I produced stuff called ‘evidence’ (all of which was open to examination and interpretation by others, and none of which was questioned or rebutted). This was supposed to assist the Courts in understanding the case in hand. Has this practice stopped now? Is ‘evidence’ no longer required?
If so, what has taken its place?
If ‘evidence’ has become obsolete, it seems I’ve sacrificed a comfortable retirement for nothing. Oh bugger!
- MTG
June 27, 2014 at 4:42 am -
There are precedents for exhuming famous corpses in order to publicly revile, hang and properly cremate the remains. It’s the only way to be sure and I don’t want to be one of those who ‘told you so’ should Jimmy Savile rise from the dead in order to molest the County’s most vulnerable children.
- corevalue
June 27, 2014 at 6:18 am -
I’m a bit slow off the mark sometimes, but am I right in saying these aren’t new allegations? They are the Yewtree allegations passed down to the various organisations where they were supposed to have happened to spend their own money “investigating”. Every one our landlady has linked to starts off with a preamble about how wicked a man JS was, and that the “victim” must be believed (and how well they were comforted by the organisation).
We few know, thanks to the tireless efforts of Anna, Moor, Rabbitaway and others, that the Duncroft allegations were extremely dubious and very unlikely to stand in a court of law, but if the linked reports are typical of the rest of the “offenses”, the Yewtree report starts to look like very thin gruel.
It is most worrying that the police are to be given powers to restrict the freedom of “suspected sex offenders” without evidence, trial or appeal. It is alarming that from this fiasco, social workers, teachers and other who come into contact with children are pressured into reporting the slightest suspicion of abuse. Child has a sniffle and is a bit down (her pet goldfish died yesterday) – possible evidence of abuse.
Even more alarming is the idea of mandatory reporting – how can an act which didn’t take place outside the mind of the “victim” be reported? That will be an open door for the prosecution of entirely innocent people based on the notion they witnessed an event which never took place, reported by a “victim” who must be believed, followed by claims for compensation against the organisations these people worked for.
The people I know, have absolutely no idea what the law is nowadays, they still think child pron is pictures of children in real sexual situations. When I explain the to them, using the Copine scale it could be pictures of fully dressed 17 year old, or an old pic of Samantha Fox from the Sun, I get blank looks. They don’t believe me. When I tell them the original complainant against Savile, witness “A” in the Yewtree report was a 22 year old married woman who had gone back to his caravan with him, been propositioned and left on good terms (it appears she only wanted to sell a kiss’n’tell to the Sun) and that the next lot of complainants are proven liars, I get “…but there’s so many, there’s no smoke without fire”. They have no idea of the process of trawling and the compensation, or the role of the no-win no-fee lawyers, or the vicarious liability of organisations.
These are by and large intelligent people, but they still trust the police and the press. I wonder how they will react when THEIR sons come under suspicion from some over-reactive social worker or malicious trainee barrister? http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/26/trainee-barrister-jailed-false-rape-claims
- Peter Raite
June 27, 2014 at 9:02 am -
Yes, it seems that most of the allegations in the various hospital reports are those filtered down from Yewtree, although some seem to have come direct to the hospitals first. The real issue is that now we are seeing far more detail about the alleged incidents, and many of them come up wanting. As I said in the “whispered softly” thread, where the hospitals have good documentary evidence, they seem able to refute the allegation/s, whether it’s through not being able to place the informant (be they “witness” or “victim”) and Savile in the same place – of even not being able to place either or both of them on-site at the same time – or because the informant’s claims don’t match reality. Conversely, for those hospitals that can’t find any evidence to the contrary, in the absence of confirmatory evidence, they fall back on an assumption that it must be true, because the informant seemed so “credible.” Although I haven’t looked at the LGI and Broadmoor reports, I think I’m right in saying that of the rest, few if any actually present anything other than circumstantial confirmatory evidence.
- Peter Raite
- Joe Public
June 27, 2014 at 7:16 am -
You have obviously put a great deal of effort & expertise into this posting Anna. Thank you for explaining just why so many Yewtree propositions are plainly ridiculous.
The Royal Hospital, Portsmouth
This information is related to an allegation by an individual who said that he had been told that he had been abused by Jimmy Savile but that victim had no recollection of the incident. The victim did not know the name of the witness to the alleged abuse who told him that it had occurred.
Reminds me of this philosophical thought experiment:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest
- GildasTheMonk
June 27, 2014 at 9:51 am -
Listening as I sometimes do to the morning phone in on Radio 5 this morning, the scene was set for the ritual bloodletting of horror and gnashing of teeth from the public over the horror that was “Savile”. There was even a psychologist and one of those ubiquitous “Child Protection Experts” (would you entrust a child with one? I bloody well wouldn’t) to help the bloodletting.
Imagine my wry look when about the first caller to come on aid (1) he’s not here to defend himself and (2) it seems odd that there there so many misdeeds and nobody ever reported them at the time; perhaps that is because they didn’t happen? Cue stunned silence at the BBC. Aha, countered the expert! But “Big People” (his words) had looked into this, even someone who had been on the “Independent” Hillsborough Panel (the case for near Papal Infallibility was thus proved). And look at the sheer number of complaints! Exactly, countered the caller. That’s sort of the point.
It is indeed the point. Here I may diverge a little from our learned editor’s view – maybe not. Clearly Mr Savile was a very strange man. He may well have been and probably was a bit of a perv. But in calling him “a bit of a perv” am I dismissing truly awful, wicked behaviour by a man who was less than a monster and who left terrible psychological damage on many innocent victims?
I find it very hard to accept this picture of a monster in human form, clad in gold lame, running amok amongst the population, assaulting people willy nilly (no pun intended) like a..well a monster running amok.
I also heard powerful testimony which I judged to be genuine on the same programme from a man who as a 7 year old child had been cruelly and unjustly beaten with a cane by his headmaster. There was no challenge to the headmaster’s behaviour at the time, he said, because that was “just the way things were”, or it was assumed he “must have done something to deserve it”. His point was that a different climate to physical abuse and authority figured prevailed. The same could be said for the non reporting of sexual abuse.
It is very difficult to sift fact from hysteria in this situation. My gut feeling is that if there was a “culture of non reporting” back in the 60’s and 70’s, there is equally now a culture of credulous hysteria. There is also the ugly specter of compensation. I heard an interview with a former Broadmoor resident yesterday, now in her 60’s who recounted how he had been abused by Jimmy Savile as a child. I say he, but he was a she at the time, so it’s a bit complicated. In fact I don’t think it would be appropriate to take a cheap shot, because it seems there are many reasons one can end up in Broadmoor, but even so, one can’t dismiss it. What did this individual want? A written apology from the hospital (fair enough), psychological help (well…) oh and “financial support”. In short, a meal ticket for life..
My own gut feeling is that there has been wrong doing, but there is now something of a frenzy in which the demonization of Savile is now an industry for press and lawyers alike. A true social phenomenon which has lost touch with reality.
G the M- GildasTheMonk
June 27, 2014 at 10:09 am -
Sorry – that should read “no less than a monster”. I was thinking too hard when I typed. By the way, on the very next radio programme BBC Radio 5 Live ran an interview with a man who was arrested and held in jail on allegations of rape, which were subsequently found to have been untrue and malicious….ironic?
- GildasTheMonk
- DtP
June 27, 2014 at 9:57 am -
Awesome blogging, my hat is in a doffed state.
- Gil
June 27, 2014 at 2:39 pm -
It’s interesting that Savile’s alleged activities at Broadmoor seem to be being presented in the media as something that was allowed because of his special status/influence and therefore an aberration for Broadmoor. The Broadmoor report (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/323458/Broadmoor_report.pdf) doesn’t appear to say anything about the alleged sexual abuse of female patients by male patients.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/mar/07/mentalhealth.uknews
http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/healthnews/10007523.Ex_Broadmoor_whistleblower__not_suprised__by_Savile_claims/
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.gossip.celebrities/Eckrr46hu6E
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-in-broadmoor-should-not-be-there-122002.html
“In 2002-2003, … I visited Broadmoor, where I was appalled at the inadequacy of the women’s facilities, subsequently drawing it to the attention of my then ministerial colleagues. I am pleased to learn that women are no longer held in Broadmoor.” (http://www.justice.gov.uk/publications/docs/corston-report-march-2007.pdf).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgeAgeuGgYk - Gil
June 27, 2014 at 2:45 pm -
Correction. The Broadmoor report does mention this. “She told us that, in her view, Broadmoor was an ‘extremely punitive place’, where women in particular were ‘treated very badly’ in a ‘very, very regimented’ environment that was ‘very institutionalised’. Patients were ‘seen as the enemy’ in a ‘ruthlessly oppressive’ system that ‘was all about control, absolutely about control’. During the 1980s, she heard fairly regular complaints by female patients of being abused by male patients; these, she told us, were never properly investigated. Very few complaints were upheld, we heard, and complainants were seen as troublemakers… We regard this as vital context to understand the environment in Broadmoor through much of the period that Savile was present there. First, we believe it is likely that in at least some of the wards, staff with a hostile attitude to patients would have tolerated inappropriate behaviour from Savile, and some may even have regarded it as deserved by wrongdoers who merited punishment for criminal behaviour.”
- IlovetheBBC
June 27, 2014 at 6:57 pm -
Is it possible, and recorded in case histories, for a person to be the sexual equivalent of an omnivore? Male, female, dead, alive, 5 and 75?? And active every minute of every day….surely such a creature would be highly unusual indeed?
- Ms Mildred
June 28, 2014 at 9:08 am -
I wonder how ‘YOU GROOM A NATION’ by touching a suspender belt through a skirt and making a cheeky remark? If he came with 2 ice creams and sat beside her too close, that conclusion might be a possibility, said she was ‘pretty so I bought this for you’. That is ‘grooming’. The suspender touching would make a wise girl hastily move away. Just shows how some senior persons are brain washed by MSM into parroting phrases put out by police spokesmen and regurgitated in the press. When you think about this sound bite it makes no sense. JS was not universally liked or admired by all and sundry, myself included. Many of us thought him a peculiar, tasteless and irritating yodeller. No amount of so called grooming would make me fancy him!!!!!!I still reserve the right to dislike the way his good name has been trampled over with little regard for truth and accuracy.
- Comrade Ox
June 29, 2014 at 3:21 pm -
Thank you so much Anna for casting an eye over this hogwash. To me this blog is increasingly becoming an island of sanity, in the midst of all the tawdry nonsense.
I have to admit, the first I had heard about this, was last night at BBQ, where it was brought up in a conversation.
‘Crumbs’ I thought, as details were told with relish, from people who I would expect more from. ‘This sounds like an out take from A Serbian Film!’ as I pondered the implication of these revelations.
I got back home, read the DT, and not only was I sickened from the almost pornographic sensibility of the ‘news item’ itself, but the completely and increasingly tin-foil hat comments that was repeated in ever an increasingly bizarre thread, which apparently everybody ‘knew’ about Saville’s apparent sexual exploits, to the point where it was ‘common knowledge’.
Even by the usual standards of complete inept commentary from the viewership, this was an all time low. However this was being rinse and repeated on the Guardian and Indy, with ‘psychological profiling’ and all the paraphernalia one would expect to find in the Soviet Union.
Yet a little voice, which has been buzzing in my head since the story broke, was growing ever louder. While I have never been a fan of Saville, this whole witch-hunt has increasingly left me feeling uneasy.
Thankfully your journalism finally managed to articulate why I have every right to be unsettled. I freely admit not having a direct interest in this story , my own interests are more to do with international politics, security and defence matters, and area which ever bigger fabrications from the media (both MSM and Indy) are actually dangerously promoting the impasse that the West faces today.
Not since the collective neurotic breakdown of the nation in the immediate aftermath of Diana’s death, have I see such a public demonstration of outright hysteria boarding on neurosis.
I guess conspiracy theory has overridden fact as the currency of knowledge today. What is so astonishing with this story, and the necrotising effect of counter-factual reporting, has seemingly left the body politic senile and incapable of functioning properly.
While we carry on believing in vast conspiracies involving the ‘establishment’, the continuing folly of the political classes to bribe us with entitlements, too scared to tell us the truth because politics has become a career and turkeys don’t vote for X-mas, and a general public which has so little investment in how we shape our future, beyond dog whistle issues, then I can’t see how we can remain a functioning society for much longer.
- Jonathan Mason
June 29, 2014 at 3:46 pm -
Good points. I think it is an interesting point why the UK populace is so credulous. Clearly there is a widespread desire to believe the unbelievable, perhaps out of a sense of prurience or jealousy of show-biz celebrities and their privileged lifestyle compared to the dullness of most people’s lives.
I found the Anna Raccoon blog via a link in a The Guardian comment on the Savile allegations, but the reason I followed it was that I was already instinctively cynical about the initial allegation that Savile, Starr, and Glitter were performing various sexual acts with underage girls in full view of each other in a BBC dressing room. While one had read of professional footballers “spit-roasting” female groupies, the idea that these three entertainers could have formed such a close bond that they trusted each other enough to perform these acts in a communal setting seemed frankly unbelievable, but if it was true, then surely it could not be a one-off and there would be many more revelations and there would be many people in the know.
However this story seems to have now fallen by the wayside, but people are still being put on trial or disinterred for pinching bums or kissing arms, or joking about glass eyes from corpses, and yet hardly anyone is noticing that the original charges have shifted. This is just like Animal Farm with the sheep failing to notice that the original revolutionary slogan painted on the wall of the barn had been crudely altered to read “except for pigs.”
- Jonathan Mason
- erichardcastle
June 30, 2014 at 6:36 am -
Cyril Smith now rivals Jingle Jangle Jimmy as the new Boogie Man and I see one of our old pals has struck gold again with the Express:
https://archive.today/7BApy
Spooks funded paedophiles to blackmail political figuresSupposedly from a ‘whistleblower’ whose name is kept secret by the Express but you don’t need to be Einstein to know it’s our old pal Christopher Fay , bagman for the Olympic boiler-room scam that ripped off dozens including my aging aunt & uncle for £8K they’d saved for a cruise. Why they feel it’s necessary to keep his name secret is a mystery as they give enough details about Fay to alert that MI5 operative that supposedly once held a gun to his head.
More likely it’s because dear old Fay may forget to alert the pensions office he has been receiving extra income.
# after a family whip around the rellies ended up with nearly £12K so came out ahead and eventually had their holiday.
But if Fay is being paid I want to know about it as none of his victims were ever compensated. I’ve written to the Express for an answer and will let you know the result (which will probably be nil).Of course it’s all about the Elm House guest house which Exaro is hyperventilating about even though they have only found one abuse victim who claims they were fiddled with there. How many other London hotels did such things happen in?
- erichardcastle
July 2, 2014 at 11:36 pm -
FOR THE RECORD : It shows just how widely read Anna Raccoon is:
I’ve been contacted by a senior Express representative who tells me their ‘whistleblower’ is NOT the infamous Chris Fay but an entirely different person. So there. I have to take them at their word at this stage.
- erichardcastle
- Henry the Horse
June 30, 2014 at 7:17 am -
I haven’t seen the photo on this Independent article before. Ironic indeed:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/history/it-was-a-relief-when-i-got-the-knighthoodbecause-it-gotme-off-the-hook-an-exclusive-interview-with-savile-from-1990-has-a-new-meaning-9571057.html- erichardcastle
June 30, 2014 at 9:12 am -
Lynn Barber is one of the saner journalists but what a desperate and dishonest attempt to wring more mileage out of Savile with the false claims of “details about sexual abuse and macabre acts” when the report does no such thing and draws no conclusion.
Is this the last hurrah for the any breath that is left in Savile?.
# hopefully Barber got paid again for that piece but probably didn’t.
- erichardcastle
- Moor Larkin
June 30, 2014 at 9:37 pm -
By their fruit yew will know them.
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