Non-Jobs for Neets, Milibands latest loony brainwave.
After a week of shenanigans from Labour’s own employees who are less than impressed at their current working conditions, Red-Ed desperately needed an employment friendly sound bite to bury the image of a party who couldn’t organise the proverbial in a brewery, far less run an entire country.
With Labour activists out on the cyber waves fire fighting the embarrassing news that tax avoiders could be found nestling in the bosom of the Labour party, by introducing the notion of mens rea to the simple task of filling out your tax return – Andreas Paterson maintains that if you employ an accountant to use perfectly legal tax schemes, many of which were developed by a Labour chancellor, for the purpose of depriving the State of revenue, then you are a baddy. Pace Philip Green. However, if, like cuddly Ken Livingstone, you employ an accountant who happens to use a perfectly legal tax scheme and that just happens to have the unfortunate effect of you paying less tax to the government, then you are not a baddy – for you didn’t mean to pay less tax, it just sort of happened to you along the way – it all in the mens rea apparently. Hilarious stuff.
So Ed couldn’t go after ‘tax avoiders’ per se, but there is another group likely to get UKUncut hot under the collar without leaving Ken Livingstone at risk of collateral damage. Bankers, yeah! These Labour Youth members know a baddy when they see one. Hiss, Boo, Bankers.
Ed is going to tax bankers all over again. Not because they are tax avoiders, you understand, he doesn’t want that word mentioned in the current climate – but just because it sounds good. He even knows what he is going to do with the money…
He’s going to give it to the Yoof, people just like you audience! Yeah, sock it to us Ed! More money for young Labour youth, just what we wanted to hear!
When Ed is Prime Minister (yeah, like when!) his government is going to conjure 100,000 places in useful employment out of thin air. Employers up and down the country will be ordered to find something useful to do for 100,000 sullen, uneducated, brain dead individuals – but it won’t cost them a penny, no need to fire all those Poles and Latvians who are actually doing the work right now, nope, instead of all taxpayers giving them £45 odd quid a week for sitting at home watching their mates appear on Jeremy Kyle, assuming they get up early enough, anyone employed as a banker is going to fund them getting £80 quid a week for six months…
Genius isn’t it?
It could have frightened the daylights out of them, having to do a proper job for six months for a measly £35 quid a week extra, but Ed softened the blow. It wouldn’t be a proper, proper job, not like one of those things you have to get up every morning for, no, this would just be for 5 hours a day, still time to watch Jeremy Kyle, and a couple of hours ‘training’, learning to count up to ten, that sort of thing; best of all it would be run by the government…
Which makes it a:
Government employment programmes
You may not be entitled to the National Minimum Wage if you take part in a government employment programme which is meant to provide you with training or work experience, or to help you get or look for work. If you are going to take part in a scheme of this kind, check with the organisers to see whether you will be paid the National Minimum Wage.
Apprentice rate is £2.60 an hour….
There are jobs out there Ed – 100,000 Poles can’t be wrong. The problem is not creating jobs out of banker’s bonuses, the problem is creating employable young people prepared to trade the sofa for one of those jobs. Now, if you are prepared to take their benefits away from them for six months, which you say you are – do so. Problem solved – they’ll be out cutting cabbages in the wind swept fields of East Anglia before you know it, or not, the choice will be theirs. But they won’t be sitting at home on £45 a week paid for in part out of already taxed Banker’s bonuses.
Now about this deficit that you need to cut. Not that one, the £10,000,000 one the Labour Party has? Any progress on that?
Sound bite politics, doncha just love it?
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March 16, 2012 at 10:17 -
@ Anna “Red-Ed desperately needed an employment friendly sound bite to bury the image of a party who couldn’t organise the proverbial in a brewery, far less run an entire country.”
What makes you think these people RUN our country? It’s commerce that runs countries, not politicians. Politicians are an enemy to commerce – everything they do stifles and or kills commerce thereby helping to impoverish the people.
I have spent 40 years in business and not once has a politician or his/her policies ever helped me in my commercial activities – they have only harmed and hindered my businesses.
They are scourge and a satanic curse on our great country and its peoples and the sooner we get them all before a people’s court and try them for treason the better. If you need an executioner, just let me know.
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March 16, 2012 at 14:26 -
If you want to know who runs the country then here you go:
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March 16, 2012 at 18:49 -
I find myself agreeing with you today Charles.
The unemployable youth are the forgotten children of the benefit state created by fuckwitts like Ed and Balls during their 15 years in Government. These kids went to School under labour. the kids lke the muppet policies of Labour just do not work. Labour wanted people on benefits as nobody on benefits votes Tory.
We still have many excellent young people who want to work but where are the entry level jobs for them to prove themselves and improve themselves.
Another thing the bankers did that was unforgivable was Offshore hundreds of thousands of jobs. Then get bailed out by the UK Taxpayer then offshore thousands more jobs.
If I had enough rope and enough lamp posts I could solve this issue during a weekend.
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March 16, 2012 at 10:58 -
Ahhh… Edweird the Milliner… the magic mushrooms are up to their potency, I see. Another astonishing victory over common sense. Bring it on, Eddy Boy.
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March 16, 2012 at 10:59 -
The tax avoidance systems are built into the revenue system on behalf of wealthy interest groups. Several year ago I read a very good article by an American economist who explained the way the US tax system is manipulated by so called Special Interest Groups who fund the politicians in both Houses (a Congressman needs to raise about $10,000 per month to fund his/her reelection campaign). He argues, convincingly, that if there were no exemptions, no business tax relief or discounts against tax and all tax payers INCLUDING businesses such as manufacturing, drug producers or farmers paid a standard 17% tax on all income, after a reasonable personal allowance, the federal revenue income would increase by at least 25% and the only persons to suffer would be the tax lawyers and and tax avoidance accountants. More importantly everyone would understand it. Such a system would no doubt work in the UK as well.
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March 16, 2012 at 11:21 -
Deadhead Ed’s mate Chukka Uppa (or Chaka NotaZulu) was on the BBC sofa this morning trying to explain how the scheme would or wouldn’t work.
It sounded an awful lot like the Workfare scheme that Deadheah Ed and his chums were berating not two weeks ago. Wish they’d make up their frickin minds.
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March 16, 2012 at 12:21 -
They can’t do that, the opinion polls and newspapers haven’t told them what they should believe yet!
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March 16, 2012 at 12:24 -
I also got the impression from Chukka Mukka that there was more compulsion in the Labour scheme than the Tory scheme. Both the benefit claimant who loses their benefits if leaving before 12 months and the employer who is forced to employ them for 12 months even if they are crap. But then that’s about the only difference between the two parties – both authoritarian, but Labour more so.
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March 16, 2012 at 18:53 -
I hope you are not implying the outrage of the Guardian, Trade Unions and the BBC to the Tory plan will hypocritically not be applied to Labours half baked stupidity through some sort of political bias?
I am shocked and saddened you could stoop so low. Have you no decency man!
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March 17, 2012 at 01:59 -
I did sound remarkably like a heated up version of workfare, that they despise.
But even better Mad Hattie Harman went on BBC to say banker tax would pay for it all.
BBC, in a rare on the ball moment, told Harman that that bonus tax was already earmarked for 25,000 homes.She floundered badly.
But she composed herself later on in the day to suddenly discover that the banker’s tax will actually raise 32bn instead of only the 1bn she earlier thought.into Mad, bad, Gordon territory here.
100,000,000 homes by 2012
A laptop for every child
A free boiler for every home
Cancer cured by 2020
100% carbon free by 2050Why stop at 32bn Hattie? Why not say £10bn – that’ll pay for jobs for all AND a payrise too!
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March 16, 2012 at 18:55 -
Chukka Khan not be serious
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March 16, 2012 at 22:18 -
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March 16, 2012 at 11:59 -
Trouble is there are enough entitled types who believe it want and will vote for it.
Labour will spend ,waste, whatever it takes to get into power.
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March 16, 2012 at 13:26 -
What an amazing coincidence! The soothsayers announced this in the lovely Kingdom of Northumbria today: http://bit.ly/zenDpW
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March 16, 2012 at 14:34 -
Was it six months Labour spent selecting their new leader before the unions picked Ed Miliband?
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March 16, 2012 at 15:51 -
Anna, don’t forget mad Hattie Harpersons ‘ contribution re this tax, as enjoyably highlighted by Fawkes – the money is also going to build a lot of affordable housing. I thinkHattie implied the kids are going to build the houses, but she was a bit vague on this point, along with the costing – she didn’t have the figures to hand , but assured us it was all tickety boo.
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March 16, 2012 at 20:03 -
Which raises the question – would a house built by Neets be better or worse than one built by cowboys, and furthermore, if all the houses are being built by Neets and cowboys, what are all the decent tradesmen going to do for a living?
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March 17, 2012 at 17:07 -
Repair the substandard housing – it’s always been necessary whenever governments have set targets for housebuilding.
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March 16, 2012 at 16:17 -
Ed Miliband is a stooge for his even worse Marxist brother David who is being hidden in the background by the Bilderbergers. You have to be a Bilderberger in order to be a candidate for Prime Minister.
Plus the Milibands are not even British – I won’t mention their racial background to save the frothing at the mouth types from getting too excited.
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March 16, 2012 at 17:48 -
Why not? There is plenty of other racist garbage on this site. You’ll be among friends.
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March 16, 2012 at 18:23 -
Really? All is not lost then. It’s good to know that there are still some sane people left in Albion who unlike you are not brainwashed and who may even know that there is only one kind of racism here in Britain and that’s anti white Anglo-Saxon racism and its origins/authorship can be found coming from the very same race as the Miliband’s.
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March 16, 2012 at 19:06 -
And so we diverge.
You mean the evil Zionist Overlord Government that controls the world but what you really mean is the evil Joos. That would be the same people that could not own property in Europe for over 1000 years, who were banned from being MP’s, killed in camps, oppressed, murdered, extorted, burned, rape and robbed on every continent.
Here is a question. If the evil Joos are in control of the entire worlds governments, media, military, finance, etc. Why is it they cannot even visit their most sacred place, the holy of holies.
Name me a single instance in world history where the rulers abstained from worshiping at their most holy site in order to appease a religion of a people sworn to kill every last one of them?
A people who dominate the world so much they receive 150 rockets over a weekend from the very people they provide water, electricity and food too.
A global domination where they have spread their evil empire to just over 20 miles wide at some points.
They are far from perfect, Who is. If they were controlling the world they would have moved arranged for the neighbours to be terminated.
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March 16, 2012 at 18:29 -
Are they Kenyan like Dave’s bestie? I thought Ralph Miliband was naturalised after three years’ service in the RN during WW2: that’s British enough for me.
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March 16, 2012 at 18:57 -
Then you’re easily pleased and deceived to boot.
Kenyan? Not quite, but they are Canaanite and not really Jews at all.
Here’s a little vid for all the deluded numpties like gladiolys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOBii3Jx1Qg
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March 16, 2012 at 21:20 -
If seeing a human being as having intrinsic worth in their own right, despite their religion, sexuality, sex, race, nationality, ethnicity or politics makes me a Numpty, sign me up for Numpty Pride. Rather a Numpty than a bigoted twat, any time.
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March 16, 2012 at 19:17 -
@Charles Crosby: So, in addition to being a mad conspiracy theorist, you are also a nasty bigotted racist… Not a lot going for you, really.
One of our fellow contributors on this blog advised that when a person resorts to ad hominem comments they have already lost the argument and that piece of wisdom holds true for you too.
You talked utter bilge on the last Rathband blog and it appears that you have not lost your taste for it. Just where the Millibands (who I have no time for, incidently) are from originally from is utterly irrelevant.
What is relevant is that they are here. Now.
Ed Milliband does not stand a snowballs chance in Hell of being elected PM, so we might as well dismiss anything and his shower of losers have to say for the present. I believe that the Conservatives, or a Conservative/Liberal Democrat alliance will forge the next Government.
This policy is another load of drivel from a party who need to face up to the fact that they helped to get us all into the present mess, and apologise for it.
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March 16, 2012 at 19:54 -
As Frank said, three years of putting your life on the line for the UK does enough to make him a Brit for me. Normally when I hear the words racism and bigot I switch off, but in this case it is absolutely spot on. As for the rest of your comments agreed too.
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March 18, 2012 at 20:32 -
Forget about race, but remember that GFather MBand was a red army commissar!
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March 16, 2012 at 19:50 -
To all liberals – please spare me the ‘in the box’ corrupted and perverted history. Wherever they went they bled those societies dry with their scavenging satanic usury and were rightly thrown out of those countries. Even the Papists were against usury.
If I were in power I would do the same today, apart from the Rothschilds and their cohorts who I would try for crimes against the people of this planet and string ‘em up.
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March 16, 2012 at 20:36 -
“… If I were in power I would do the same today”. Well – its a good job you ain’t, my potty old chum! Those poor Rothschilds must be quaking in their boots… you really have got it in for them!!
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March 16, 2012 at 21:02 -
And they’ve had it in for you and they’ve been screwing you and yours for generations only you’re so blind, ignorant and stupid you can’t see it.
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March 16, 2012 at 23:00 -
There there… Calm down and drink some Horlicks, old chap. It won’t do to get you all riled up.
It’s off to bed for you for a nice lie down.
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March 20, 2012 at 13:44 -
Who said I was upset?
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March 17, 2012 at 09:38 -
Charles, If you cannot own land, have no military, are not allowed to be armed and are murdered for witchcraft at the first sign of dispute.
You too would charge interest on lending money to the very people who oppress you.
As the Jews were regularly cast out they kept their wealth in easily transportable currency. Gold, Jewels & spices in order to both hide them & move them quickly as a matter of necessity.
They maintained strong links with each other & provided credit notes to allow people to travel without treasure to be redeemed across countries & continents.
They are guilty of being smart, well educated & now in the last 50 years guilty of taking up arms to stop their extermination at the hands of the islamic hordes.
They possess Israel through strength. The first time in 2000 years they have been militarily mobilized yet hated throughout history for their ability to survive.
Like all nations there is good and bad but to apply the NWO bullshit as the fault of Zionism is to ignore all of documented history across the world.
It is them who should mistrust us because of people like you and your fore bearers who blamed Jews for everything from Illness, weather, death, sorcery.
In al of history they have invaded a couple of miles of land that they lost previously.
Go read some old history books written hundreds of years ago and discover the truth or continue repeating conspiracy echo chamber nonsense published by fickwitts.
Ps. I followed your link to understand your source to find a 3 minute quote from the George Galloway of Leftwing nutjobs in Israel. Believe what you wish but at least try and search harder and read more. You are making a total Cunt of yourself.
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March 17, 2012 at 14:00 -
@2mac: Well researched and well said. I wonder if the current management in Israel might do a lot better with the Palestinians if they hadn’t built settlements all over the place, and were a little less heavy handed on occasion, after all, it is said that: ‘…you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar’… but they have cause.
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March 18, 2012 at 09:50 -
The Palestine issue is more to do with providing Arabs a hate figure to focus on & the insult of Jews being in power as well as Islam wanting to dominate the holy city.
Al Asqa Mosque is built on Solomons temple. Muslims claim it on the basis that Muhammad flew there one night on a flying talking horse from Arabia and ascended to heaven & returned before anyone woke & noticed him gone.
The other point is they took it by force, lost it by force but under Islamic rules once a place has accepted Allah it belongs to Islam for ever.
As far as Islamic law is concerned Spain is also illegally occupied. They simply acknowledge they cannot get it back yet. But it is on the to do list.
Islam supercedes all legal systems & beliefs and is there right in everything. There is no truce permitted just temp. ceasefires when to weak to wage war.
I dispair at the lack of informed comment on a subject with predefined rules on everything.
This will also be its downfall. we can assess what they will do based as even warfare is according to rules.
This is why Palestinians cannot seek truce. There is no such concept in Islam. The option are Submission, Conversion, death or war or a suspention for up to 10 years that can be broken at will when armed.
Every Israeli knows this, few in the west bother to understand. They simply apply western cultural framework to Arab conflicts and peace processes.
You say TomAto I saw Tomato. They say ‘Death to all infidels’
They are signing from a different song sheet.
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March 18, 2012 at 11:55 -
Spot on, 2Mac!
I wonder if the cultural inability of the islamic world to view criticism, especially self-criticism, as weakness in contrast to the Jewish tradition, is a cause of its stagnation? Whereas positive introspection leads to self improvement, the islamic default position is to analyse a problem in order to find someone else to blame. -
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Sorry, meant to write “I wonder if the cultural inability of the islamic world to view criticism, especially self-criticism, as a strength, in contrast to the positive Jewish tradition of analysis,”
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March 20, 2012 at 13:49 -
They’re a blight and curse on any society and were rightfully banned from England by all our Kings until the Tudors and after them Cromwell who was financed by them.
I would never charge interest to anyone – I have always WORKED for my living.
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March 16, 2012 at 21:20 -
Smile, keep it up liebour, your marvellous organizational abilities are on show.
And while we are at it, wasn’t that visit by the camoron to the USA a triumph?
Great advertisements for UKIP.
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March 17, 2012 at 07:43 -
Plainly Milliband etc are irrelevant and spout hot air. They do raise an important difficulty – what to do with our unemployed young?. No good spouting they are useless – if that is true, we made them that way. None of this mattered when the City made cash by the ton – it paid the benefits. But this was a cynical ploy that has come home to bite HMG and us.
The critical problem is ‘what can Britain do to earn a crust?’. Manufacture is flavour-of-the-month, so just pop along to the town hall and ask where you can set up a large factory and build a few thousand workers houses. Perhaps we can trade our brain-power, be the world’s centre for legal expertise. No way, our law is the last handicraft with methods that make medieval metalwork look positively space-age. This last points to our malaise, we have an over-developed middle-class working at flim-flam jobs that have no value outside the UK and that get in the way of any activity that has exportable value. The problem is not the yoof, it’s us, an over-paid, over-pensioned middle class, no we are not worth it. Time for a radical transfer of wealth and investment and a little less democracy.
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March 18, 2012 at 23:37 -
One suspects that things would improve markedly with a lot more democracy and a lot less government. As for transfer of wealth, have you not noticed what has been happening this last decade or so?
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March 17, 2012 at 08:36 -
“The problem is not the yoof, it’s us, an over-paid, over-pensioned middle class…”
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