British Slag and the Decline of Cole.
Ashley Cole needs his right to privacy and threatens the Sun newspaper just before being arrested for using abusive language!
The philandering husband of Girls Aloud singer Cheryl Cole has threatened to sue the Sun newspaper for invasion of his privacy if they dare to print photographs of him and the ‘classy’ woman’ he was talking to at a South Kensington establishment.
Cole’s ‘minders’ snatched the Sun photographer’s camera.
The Sun did not print the photographs. Maybe they had already been deleted. The Sun described the ‘beautiful blonde’ woman and the blue outfit she was wearing – including her necklace and four bracelets.
It is alleged that some degree of intimacy was being shared in a cordoned-off exclusive area. Indeed one eye-witness account reveals that the classy beautiful blonde even tilted her head at a specific 90 degrees. We are told that she also spoke directly into Cole’s ear.
Despised by most football fans, Ashley Cole is currently earning in excess of 82K per week. This man has a responsibility to his football team, his few fans and his wife – who has recently been suffering from altitude sickness whilst trying to raise money for Comic Relief.
How many more of these footballers and other so-called celebrities are to dictate what the Press are allowed to print? The drive for new privacy and libel laws will leave the Sun and all other red-tops without photographs and little else to write about.
We should be mindful of Gerry Adams speaking on behalf of the IRA on the BBC. We could see him on the screen but a voice-over was speaking his words.
Would the mass media prefer to go back down this route again? If they do not act right now – they will not have the powers to act – even if they want to.
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Cashley Cole is an overpaid Tosser.
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March 8, 2009 at 12:04 pm -
What with Cashley earning over £82k/week and his missus making a nice few bob warbling pop songs, it seems that Britain DOES have a thriving Cole industry after all.
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March 8, 2009 at 3:52 pm -
I Do think everyone deserved the right to privacy – even if they are as dumb as a cupboard and a waste of oxygen. It’s no-one’s business what people get up to either in the privacy of their own homes or in discreet situations (unless you have a Profumo-affair situation, in which case the security of the nation does come first). I was quite heartened when Max Mosely won his battle against the press for privacy breaches; even though I absolutely despise him, no-one has the ‘right to know’ what he may or may not do in his spare time. Whether someone earns a lot of money or a little isn’t really the point: I think we’d be much healthier as a nation if we returned to a ‘mind your own business’ ‘you mind yours and I’ll mind mine’ mindset.
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March 8, 2009 at 3:53 pm -
Mosley, even.
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March 8, 2009 at 4:50 pm -
Mara MacSeoinin: ……………… ‘no-one has the ‘right to know’ what he may or may not do in his spare time. Whether someone earns a lot of money or a little isn’t really the point: I think we’d be much healthier as a nation if we returned to a ‘mind your own business’ ‘you mind yours and I’ll mind mine’ mindset.’
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In a perfect and World with perfect people who do everything in a perfect way ………………. I think that it would be super to be able to choose only to be interested in the people we have preiously chosen to associate with …………. and forget all about becoming involved with the lives of others with whom we have nothing in common …………..However ……………….. there are politicians and professors and nuclear scientists and pop stars and film stars and blue collar workers who surf the net for abusive images of children and the mutilation of animals and recipes for bomb-making and all kinds of other things that make the World very unsafe.
Unfortunately, humans are not designed to live in a World of isolationism and elitism.
I do not know which particular Planetary nation that Mara MacSeoinin is referring to in saying that ‘we’d be much healthier as a nation if we returned to a ‘mind your own business’ ‘you mind yours and I’ll mind mine’ mindset.’ And I would like a reference to that Planet or a reference to any Earth civilisation who lived in this curious way. I am most intrigued!
Here on Planet Earth there has never been a time in recorded history where such a ‘mindset’ has ever existed.
Humans are naturaly gregarious ………….. with the obvious exceptions ……………… and the very fact that they live on a Planet which is shared by all …………….. means that we have to know what other humans have in their hearts, their minds and all other areas of their lives.
Human secret societies and elitist groups grow like cancers and exploit other humans and animals. Surely Mara MaSeoinin must see that if everybody looked after only their own business and didn’t give a toss about anybody else, there would be paedophiles and wife batterers and people who work on animal experiments given carte blanche to carry on without others ever knowing.
Ashley Cole is paid exorbitant amounts of money who make incredible amounts of money off the back of his skills.
Therefore he should toe the line of his management and at least appear be healthy and wise in his private life.
The Coles are role models for many hundreds of thousands of children who have little or absolutely no chance in their lives. As public figures who attract a lot of attention ……………. they should take responsibility and remember who pays their wages. …………….THE PUBLIC!
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March 8, 2009 at 4:56 pm -
Mara MacSeoinin: ……………… ‘no-one has the ‘right to know’ what he may or may not do in his spare time. Whether someone earns a lot of money or a little isn’t really the point: I think we’d be much healthier as a nation if we returned to a ‘mind your own business’ ‘you mind yours and I’ll mind mine’ mindset.’
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Mara ………. There is a thoroughly respectable chap who is about to go to trial for keeping his daughter pregnant with his own sperm shortly! There was a whole family living in a basement that nobody knew about ……………. in a very respectable street. Had anybody given a toss about the daughter who seemed to disappear …………….. maybe she wouldn’t have had to suffer for all those years.Do read about it. I cannot think how you may have missed it if you were on Earth at the time.
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March 8, 2009 at 5:04 pm -
You surely don’t think that in arguing for a person’s right to privacy I’m advocating paedophilia, do you?
There exist safeguards – particularly on the net – whereby those who go around looking for these images get canned. Ditto potential terrorists. I’m saying the fact that journalists assuming a faux stance of outraged morality in order to make loads of money is immoral. By allowing – nay, advocating – this kind of intrusion you set a precedent for a surveillance society; the ‘if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear’ mentality. Prior to WWII, supposition, paparazzi snooping about with long range lenses and tabloid newspapers encouraging prurience under the guise of the ‘right to know’ was entirely prohibited.
Humans may be gregarious, certainly. That is how societies have been formed; the mutual need to live in harmony with the other in a way in which freedoms and rights can be accommodated and reciprocated with the minimum of pain and the maximum of gain. Humans are also – or historically have been – private; not wishing to share every single little intimate detail of their lives with all and sundry.
If I were to ask you the details of your last smear test or with whom you were intimate you would be hugely offended and rightly so: I would expect you to slap me for daring to intrude into your personal life. I wonder if you protested about the government making precisely such details available to 300,000+ civil servants when they decided to share your medical records. The right to privacy has historically been a hard-won battle; eroding it by claiming that ‘celebrities’ are accountable to the general public – in fact, the court of ‘public opinion’ is to sacrifice something very precious in favour of mob rule. Not an elitist observation; just a human one. -
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MM: …………… ‘If I were to ask you the details of your last smear test or with whom you were intimate you would be hugely offended and rightly so: I would expect you to slap me for daring to intrude into your personal life.’
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‘Ere luvvy! I will put it on the net for the Planet to see. My last smear test was clear and though I say it myself …………… As clear as a Nun who has not been having sexual relations with a transient Priest!If it wasn’t clear – I would be putting that somewhere on the net as well and telling everybody in the pub ………… Just like Jade Goody! She has just single-handedly saved the lives of possibly millions of young girls who will go on to have millions of other young women who could have developed this shocking disease through ignorance and shame.
My last sight test was a bit ropey ………….. so I bought new spectacles.
I don’t know or need to know your age and sex but you appear naive at best and tunnel-visioned at your worst. I judge that simply from your usage of the studenty-type and half-cocked sound-bitey material that I have just read. I am sure that you are thoroughly decent as a human being ………….. but a little naive.
But that’s OK! I am not a well person and sometimes my wn judgements are below par ……………. and I need to see opposing views to my own. Thank you.
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How gratuitously offensive and extraordinarily rude of you.
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MM: …………………….. ‘There exist safeguards – particularly on the net – whereby those who go around looking for these images get canned.’
***************************************************Thanks for this MM! I have just rung New Scotland Yard and a couple of policemen I know in Holland to tell them that they can stop budgeting for their paedy projects and all the child prostitution rackets that they encounter by the minute.
Errrrrr …………… They said they will get back to me.
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Coco: She has just single-handedly saved the lives of possibly millions of young girls who will go on to have millions of other young women who could have developed this shocking disease through ignorance and shame.
Wow, you really think it’s contractable through ignorance and shame?
And Mara I think you will find it was Voltaire that coined the phrase “Sir I disagree with what you say but defend, to the death, your right to say it”.
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March 8, 2009 at 5:42 pm -
MM ………………… ‘How gratuitously offensive and extraordinarily rude of you’
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Errrrrr ……………… Because I don’t want a society where people mind their own business?
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March 8, 2009 at 5:55 pm -
No: for failing to observe the rules of debating in which one does not launch personal attacks against one’s opponent, but critiques their debate only; for making groundless assumptions about my background and character and condemning me for said assumptions.
Zak: The phrase was inappropriately attributed to Voltaire by the writer Evelyn Hall writing under the pseudonym Tallentrye. Chomsky updated it recently. -
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Zak: ……………… ‘Wow, you really think it’s contactable through ignorance and shame’
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Yep! Some women have died through being too ashamed of their bodies and not going to the clinics for tests when called fpr a smear test or when finding genial warts …………… and of course not knowing how easily they can get the disease when not using condoms. -
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Zak: …………… ‘And Mara I think you will find it was Voltaire that coined the phrase “Sir I disagree with what you say but defend, to the death, your right to say it”.’
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We need more Voltaires and less Nietzches!Anna Raccoon …………….. I can’t pop my handbag down! I can’t fight before supper. I am too hyper in the day-time ……………. I wouldn’t know my own strength.
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March 8, 2009 at 6:02 pm -
Mara MacSeoinin ……………….. No: for failing to observe the rules of debating in which one does not launch personal attacks against one’s opponent, but critiques their debate only
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Just had a read back MM and you were not debating at all. You were actually saying that we all need to mind our own business and allow people to get on with theirs. And then there was a bit of a lecture ……….. -
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Okay maybe I deserved both of those.
Contractable has nothing to do with shame or embarrassment it refers to the possibility\accessibility of infection not the reasons for not getting treatment or identifying symptoms.
The quote I referenced is evident in several texts dating back to the end of the 1700’s and although no scholar has found any direct evidence it was written by Voltaire it is even more of a stretch of the imagination to attribute it to a man born in the 1920’s.
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March 8, 2009 at 6:13 pm -
I Coco said: ……….. ”finding genial warts” ……………… Of course I mean genital warts here! …………. I failed a nail appointment last week and my nails are currently too long to type with.
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With you on this one Zak ……………….. For all my sins I admire Voltaire and Rousseau.
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March 8, 2009 at 6:27 pm -
Goodness me! Just had a thought about the guy who has been released from Guantanamo Bay.
If everybody minded their own business ………….. how would we
be able to find out if MI5 were involved in his torture?
Mmmmm …………. At least the guy has got a chance to let us know what was going on in there. Thank God his campaigners didn’t mind their own business. He could have dried out like a prune in that Godforsaken place. What if his friends and family and neighbours and former colleagues had just gotten on with their own business?
Has anybody found me a civilisation that has allowed people to mind their own business yet? I have gone as far back as the Chaldeans and Mayans ………….. and I am in prehistoric times now and a I’m a bit stuck.
Does anybody know of any cavemen scripts (in English) to peruse or should I just take it as read that they lived in smalland large groups and protected each other from sabre-toothed tigers and floods?
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March 8, 2009 at 6:33 pm -
Funnily enough I used to know a family called Wart! They were lovely. Always put a lovely spread on and plied us with cocktails ………….. Lovely hosts!
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March 8, 2009 at 6:36 pm -
I think you may find it difficult studying the histories of pre-historic cultures Coco…
As far as people living in units that ignore certain aspects/practices of their culture. You could look at the government, police, army, or even families to discover why it is sometimes beneficial to keep something to yourself or having established norms that involve only sharing information with those that need to know.
Because the widespread knowledge of certain information would undermine the authority structure.
Not that I agree with it…
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Zak: ………………. I think you may find it difficult studying the histories of pre-historic cultures Coco…
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Precisely Zak! Not likely to find a hard-drive or poetry printed on silk am I!Therefore my conclusion is ………….. Humans group together for common purpose and we all need to know what is going on in our own streets, communities and nations.
And when people purport to be virtuous and spout their virtuosity to all and sundry ………….. it is always handy when The Observer or The Sun put is straight with a few photographs and a few interviews.
Of course we are about to return to the days when Gerry Adams couldn’t speak to us through his own voice ……………… And after the atrocity last night in NI ……………. We need to know which side of the fence our neighbours are sitting on …………….. and where they get their guns from.
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March 8, 2009 at 7:02 pm -
H/T to ‘their contempt for you is total’:
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. ~ C.S. Lewis
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Corect amussimus Zak! Which leads us back to the fact that we should know our neighbours and community politicians. Coppers ………. should live in the communities in which they serve and gather intelligence from the grass roots. Many years ago coppers walked the streets and knew every individual with whom they came in contact and who was in whose gang of friends.
They knew which elderly people lived alone. They knew who didn’t exercise their pony or who didn’t have a driving licence.
Neighbours and friends should not delight in the fact that they know really good cocaine dealers or a motor mechanic that can fix them an MOT when their car is only fit for the scrap-yard.
Friends and neighbours should feel that it is their right to ask others why their children are trawling the streets at night – without the fear of a baseball bat being wrapped around their heads for daring to mention it.
It should be the norm that we wonder why some families like to talk of ‘keeping themselves to themselves and minding their own business’ and why they don’t wish to engage with their communities in even a small way.
Better to be proved a nosey-parker than to find that your neighbour’s child has been seriously abused by both parents for the past ten years and a mutilated body has been found in the river.
Better to be called an animal rights protester than to allow teenagers to roam around with dangerous dogs that they cannot even afford the vaccinations and nutrition for.
Better to be called a political activist and subversive rather than allow a fascist Labour Government to control the media.
Due to Gordie Bruney minding his own business and allowing bankers the white card ……………. We have a situation that is nly starting to unravel!
Now we will see why the rich get richer and the poor become poorer!
I am dead chuffed that I now own a piece of all the banks that may still go down the pan! I feel like a mogul! Cheers Gordie! I remember when I was dead rich because of all our oil!
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That’s right Anna Raccoon …………….. Loads of wealthy people are truly charitable …………… And some people don’ even use it as an excuse not to pay tax …………… like Bruce Springsteen and Bryan Adams. Hats off to them!
Some people give their even more precious time and don’t like to talk about it.
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March 8, 2009 at 7:51 pm -
Just to get back to Ashley Cole for a moment. He is a very highly paid footballer playing at the top level. This requires him to be at the peak of physical fitness. Swanning about in nightclubs at the early hours of the morning is not very condusive to this. Ultimately the fans of his club and the thousands of SKY subscribers deserve his best performances. Indeed Ashley has previous when it comes to being spotted in indiscreet circumstances, for which he was fined.
In this particular case I think he was more concerned that his wife will find out what he was getting up to while she was away. I wouldn’t want to be in Ashley’s shoes when Cheryl gets home.Ermm on second thoughts maybe I would.
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March 8, 2009 at 8:41 pm -
‘Oh Sauly!’ She said in an obsequiously and endearing way …………. I am so glad that you get what I meant by the post. Cole has a terrifying amount of pressure in his job. I just think that he should be made to realise that he also has a massive resonsibilty to the people we have already mentioned.
Without mentioning names on here, there have been highly-paid people snorting cocoaine and thereby funding terrorists who we would never hear about if we had these so-called ‘privacy laws’.
Given that the UK is trying to implement new ‘privacy laws’ ………….. will people on benefits and the low-paid and feeble be afforded the privilege of Legal Aid to fight libel suits and slander as well? Just so that everybody is on an equal footing.
I suspect not. What I am absolutely sure about ………. is that the ‘privacy laws’ which will enable people to be of a mind-set that some people wish us to return to ………….. will not be available for all …………. Just those that can afford it.
I would want Carter Ruck myself!!! But what if there was a massive queue because they are such a superior firm?
I could end up with a back-street firm that may be intimidated!
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March 8, 2009 at 11:05 pm -
There is a rather splendid piece on fairness by Henry Crun that I read a short while ago. I have just re-read it and would like to recommend it in case you have missed it.
http://www.grumpyoldsods.co.uk/blog/_archives/2009/2/26/4105342.html
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March 8, 2009 at 11:34 pm -
My post went before I could attribute the original author of the piece! It should say ‘on’ not ‘by’.
http://raedwald.blogspot.com/2009/02/ill-tell-you-about-fairness-gordon.html
Splendid!
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March 9, 2009 at 12:02 am -
I find it gratifying that the word Splendid is still in use.
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March 9, 2009 at 12:36 am -
‘Ere Saul! …………… Couldn’t find a word to describe raedwald’s piece. It’s not often I find something on the web that resonates that easily with me. So my first thought was ’splendid’.
He has put a lot stuff in the bag. Just glad that Henry Crun had it up or I wouldn’t have seen it. It stopped me feeling like I am the mad one.
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March 9, 2009 at 12:49 am -
You’re not the mad one Coco chuck, the British sense of fairplay is being tested, but not as severely as the British reluctance to complain. A storm is coming, I’m going to seek out Sarah Connor and stand behind her.
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But Saul …………….. I am scared. God bless those soldiers and their families …………… but the civilian guards didn’t even open fire in self-defence at the evil bastards! Even when they had the chance to shoot them dead.
This is about the best excuse Gordie could have to ensure that civilians are never employed in the Forces and an urgent need to hide any intelligence and data and put more curbs on freedom of information.
Northern Ireland has turned into Afghanistan again. Two distinct and major groups of people with very different ideas about how they want the country one.
What one side always forget is …………. that Southern Ireland would be bankrupt overnight.
Those soldiers were sitting ducks. This is a despicable criminal act and definitely not a war-crime.
I would want a serious investigation into this at the very highest levels – because I heard whispers last week that an atrocity like this was going to happen ………….. I even mentioned Gerry Adams in the post on the Coles. ……………….. For good reason.
I hope the UK Government weren’t behind all this. They are behind everything else at the moment.
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March 9, 2009 at 1:19 am -
Steady on Coco, from what I have read the Pizza delivery men were innocent bystanders, that were also shot.
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March 9, 2009 at 1:30 am -
Saul! THANKS! – I stand corrected. I did the same thing on an earlier post …… I moved my sentences around and my post went when I hadn’t moved my paragraph back and I lost one. Hopefully everybody knows about the drive-by bit anyway. But I am dead sorry. Am on a tiny lap-top at mo and I’m clicking a key that I think is the question mark – and my post are going before I can finish or stop them. Thanks for pointing it out though because I wouldn’t like anybody who doesn’t know us thinking it was deliberate.
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March 9, 2009 at 10:27 pm -
Can’t put up a link but if you google Ashley Cole you can get an update courtesy of the Belfast Telgraph.
I like the “intellectual conversation” quote, splendid.
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March 9, 2009 at 10:38 pm -
Fab Saul! I recall the Sun saying she held her head at 90 degrees as well!
I’m not saying that having one or more degrees makes you intelligent or or intellectual in any way, shape or form ………. but she may have more degrees than she needs and passed some over to Cole. It could be this which caused the intellectual engagement.
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March 9, 2009 at 10:47 pm -
I tried holding my head at 90 degrees, but my neck won’t allow it. Does that mean I can never be an intellectual? However by bending my knee I can achieve the said 90 degrees in my leg. Does that qualify in any way?
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March 9, 2009 at 11:15 pm -
Errrrr ………….. Saul! Are you trying to tell me that you are not an Alien then …………….. after all this time? I think you should keep trying! I can twizz my head through 359 degrees if I am not wearing dangly ear-rings.
I suppose this means that we can never be Masons. But I can live with that because I’ve got a Grand Master next door who ususally sorts any of my errrrr …………. problems out.
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March 9, 2009 at 11:19 pm -
I did have to roll up my trouser leg to achieve the 90 degrees, in some circles that would be significant.
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March 9, 2009 at 11:26 pm -
Pssst! Don’t mention circles and pyramids! Bit of Boooo Selecto coming up tomorrow. Balls in bags all day today! But …………. new balls tomorrow!
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March 9, 2009 at 11:31 pm -
I think we should start to form an extra-select committe this evening Saul. Or an especially select committee.
This may be one of our last chances to say ………….. things. Know what I mean? Know what I mean. Nudge nudge ………… stand on one leg in a blind-fold! …………………. Or was that at Guantanamo Bay? Bugger! My memory is shocking today.
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