Marmageddon.
Marmgate is over. The threat to the British nation posed by one web site, belonging to one supermarket, no longer offering to deliver a jar of Marmite that very day, has been lifted. Never in the history of half eaten jars of distinctly unpalatable foodstuffs having to be sourced from other shops has the British nation so thoroughly debated the threat to our wellbeing.
Brexiteers swarmed to the social media barricades; outraged that such an iconic product was being ‘imported’ and was now threatened by our decision to leave the EU. Our very health was being dictated by a ‘foreign food company’ and the EU imposing a tariff on dear old Marmite. Children would have rickets before you knew it; the life expectancy of the elderly slashed in half; the very identity of what it means to be British – lost for ever.
The marmument to recycling in Burton-on-Trent.
In vain did a few brave souls attempt to point out that Marmite was made in Burton-on-Trent, where it had always been made, since an enterprising chap discovered that rather than pay a carter to take away the waste product of Bass beer, with a bit of clever advertising, he could persuade the British public to eat it up – and pay him for the privilege.
He was German of course; Justus Liebig – they are past masters at getting the British public to pay up and eat up their leftovers. To wit the pink slurry laced with sodium nitrate, squeezed into a condom, sold to us as Wiener Würstchen, or ‘Frankfurters’. For the German market, a more palatable concoction was dreamt up – VITAM-R without the artery clogging salt content, nor the residue of barley and wheat which stops Marmite appealing to the Gluten free market.
Watching the ‘Leavers’ on the paid subscription site of The Times article on Marmageddon work themselves into a lather in a 600 comment thread demanding that Article 50 be invoked NOW! Right now! and ownership of this foreign invented product be returned to the safety of these shores and no longer at the whim of the euro exchange market was a joy to behold.
Comments on a Times article rarely go much beyond 6 or 7 comments. You have to pay around £30 a month for the privilege of being able to comment. You have to comment under your own name – discouraging those wedded to the idea of calling themselves ‘The Constipated Midget’ rather than revealing their mother’s unimaginative bequest of plain John Smith no doubt has something to do with it. It needs to be a national emergency of Marmageddon proportions to inspire so many.
Elsewhere in the world, we do have a genuine Armageddon under way. Rebel-held parts of Aleppo have been devastated by Russian bombing. Barrel bombs have virtually razed the city to the ground; nightly we are exhorted to say something, do something, as the film crews expertly seek out a small child clutching a teddy bear wandering in the ruins. Lily Allen bursts into tears from the emotive effort of apologising to the Syrian population on behalf of the British public.
“We cannot just see Aleppo pulverised in this way, we have to do something,” Boris Johnson told a Commons committee.
Spokesperson for our Official Opposition party, Seumas Milnetov, said only:
“The focus on Russian atrocities or Syrian army atrocities I think sometimes diverts attention from other atrocities that are taking place.”
Like a Marmite shortage presumably.
Corbyn’s waffle about ‘Stop the War’ and his desire to disarm Britain, and remove all support for Nato, suggests to some that he is a cuddly anti-war conscientious objector. He is not. He will support Hamas, the IRA, the Cubans, anybody and everybody who opposes the US. In Syria’s case, the aggressor is Assad and The Russian Federation. Those who seek to depose them, the ‘rebels’, are therefore ‘bad’ people. That child with a teddy bear wandering in the smoking ruins is just collateral damage in Jezza’s ideological battleground.
According to a Sky Poll, 53% of the British public believe that we should intervene in Syria; quite what form that intervention (and with what? chocolate fighter jets?) should take is even more interesting.
Because 51% don’t think we should get involved if it means ‘engaging with Russian troops’. I can only assume that they are quite happy if we intervene and shoot American jets out of the sky.
They cannot be Syrias, as John McEnroe would say.
A whole 9 people, nine, were moved to comment on our possible involvement in Aleppo. Armageddon just isn’t as sexy as Marmageddon.
Raccoonistas have so far shown themselves to have admirable restraint over Marmageddon – are they any more engaged than Times readers in the prospect of us wandering into Armageddon?
- tdf
October 14, 2016 at 12:19 pm -
“Something must be done” is the rallying cry of a broad political spectrum from neo-cons to naive liberal interventionists. Sometimes, in fact, the least worse thing is to do nothing at all.
- Jimbob McGinty
October 14, 2016 at 7:41 pm -
Also a common utterance from any lazy so-and-so who hasn’t the gumption to take responsibility for anything themselves.
The “I had a shit three weeks ago and the council STILL haven’t come round to flush it” types. - DP
October 14, 2016 at 9:06 pm -
Dear tdf
“Sometimes, in fact, the least worse thing is to do nothing at all.”
Usually it’s the best.
DP
- JimBob McGinty
October 14, 2016 at 10:54 pm -
“Usually it’s the best”
Aye. The law of unintended consequences is not invoked, and the only effort required is acceptance that the world is not how one thinks it ought to be.
And as for Syria, dropping food and supplies in besieged cities by remote control drones piloted from Lincolnshire would be the best way to get involved in my naive opinion.Anyone else think Boris seems faintly ridiculous when it comes to sabre-rattling ?
- JimBob McGinty
- Jimbob McGinty
- The Constipated Midget
October 14, 2016 at 12:35 pm -
discouraging those wedded to the idea of calling themselves ‘The Constipated Midget’
Says Annie Procyon Lotor…
- Peter Raite
October 14, 2016 at 12:35 pm -
A couple of years ago Mrs R got in some Marmite-covered peanuts in anticipation of the visit by a friend who we knew liked the stuff, but in the end didn’t get round to… er.. coming round. Eventually Mrs R, while clearing out a cupboard, said we might as well chuck the horrible things, but never having tasted the stuff and only assumed it would be horrible, I declared my intention to at least try this form, diluted as it was by something I did like, i.e. peanuts. She grimaced as if I was about to clean my teeth with the toilet brush. I ruminated the previously forbidden fruit. “Actually, these are quite nice,” I said. She looked as if she was ready to throw me out with the peanuts….
- Demetrius
October 14, 2016 at 12:51 pm -
Is there a spreadsheet for Marmageddon?
- Major Bonkers
October 14, 2016 at 12:57 pm -
Evelyn Waugh got there first:
https://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/on-journalism/
His description of ‘local colour’ would do Fergal Keene at his emoting, maudlin best proud!
- windsock
October 14, 2016 at 12:58 pm -
“the ‘rebels’, are therefore ‘bad’ people.”…well, they are if they are ISIS, but not if they are democracy loving Westernophiles… but who can tell? Nobody wears colours or has flags so you just get to bomb indiscriminately somebody who may, or may not, be an enemy, or on your side. Of course, those democracy loving Westernophiles might then elect someone from the Muslim Brotherhood, so we’d have to inspire some sort of military insurrection (see Morsi/Sisi, Egypt) or bomb them again. Best off out and spend bomb money on looking after our own and providing decent conditions for refugees.
I hate Marmite.
But, curiously, love Twiglets.
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 2:29 pm -
My late teenage years were conducted according to the mottoes; “Live For The Burn And The Sting Of Pleasure”. “Don’t Dream It …Be Truly Delusional” and “Don’t Knock It Until You’ve Tried It, TWICE to make sure it really was a mistake the first time round”.
Those applied to both sexual and culinary perversions.
I have tried a milk, beer and ribena ‘snake bite black and white’. I have slurped a pork pie crumbled into a pint of lager. I have eaten most named animals you might care to name and that intentionally (ie I knowingly ordered Horse Sausage, not just bought Lidl’s lasagne). I have even eaten cold baked beans out of the tin and once ‘ate’ at Burger Fling (it ain’t ‘flame grilled’, it’s ‘burnt’) and had the salmonella to prove it.
But marmite I could never get the hang of. I believe eskimos bury shark meat in the ground to ‘ferment’ (‘rot’?) for a year and hold it to be a delicacy..well that sounds preferable to marmite to me!Strangely enough I recently discovered the Great British taste buds have actually come up with something that tastes even viler than marmite, indeed is probably the adult equivalent of it, for those seeking to recreate the terrors of childhood teatimes: Lakeland pipe ‘tobaccos’ (that’s those rosewater, tonquin bean flavoured ‘aromatic’ obscenities such as ‘condor’ and ‘clan’ .
- Ed P
October 14, 2016 at 6:13 pm -
I was told by my father, who had good engineering contacts at Peek Freans, that Twiglets were invented in 1932 by accident. The (in those days) new biscuit slurry extrusion machine malfunctioned and, voila, Twiglets were born!
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 6:32 pm -
But, curiously, love Twiglets.
How Freudian of you dear, sucking on something tasting of yeast infection
- windsock
October 14, 2016 at 7:01 pm -
Yeah, some substitute!
(And not so much sucking, more of a biting and crunching.)
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 7:08 pm -
At least you’re not eating out of the jar of yeast infection tasting slime. (Did I need to italicise there?…no maybe not…)
- The Blocked Dwarf
- windsock
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Joe Public
October 14, 2016 at 1:24 pm -
“I can only assume that they are quite happy if we intervene and shoot American jets out of the sky.”
Self-defence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._friendly-fire_incidents_since_1945_with_British_victims
- Mrs Grimble
October 14, 2016 at 1:41 pm -
In my random jopurneyings around the internet, I often come across fascinating factoids. Here’s one of them – how the leader of the 9/11 hijackers was inspired by Aleppo.
- Michael
October 14, 2016 at 3:14 pm -
Can’t stand the stuff… Except when my good lady was pregnant with our second.. then I got massive “sympathy” cravings for some reason.
- Hadleigh Fan
October 14, 2016 at 3:25 pm -
I didn’t know who to cheer here: Tesco fighting off a Remoanian attempt to cash in, while all the while Tesco short-change their UK suppliers, or a …. wait a minute, Tesco for all their faults do provide a service, and Unilever provides all manner of obnoxious shite. The UK would be better off if Tesco had taken the stuff off their shelves permanently.
And guess what? Ched Evans found Not Guilty on retrial.
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 3:36 pm -
Ched Evans found Not Guilty on retrial.
There will be some twitterorises rubbed red raw and smoking…..
- tdf
October 14, 2016 at 3:37 pm -
There will be weeping and grinding of teeth!
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 3:46 pm -
I confess to a little schadenfreude , I just went and looked. However there was one comment that I felt particularly pertinent , from a Ms. Nicola McLean, a female no less, and I think bears repeating :“This Ched Evans case really bothers me! The “victim ” didn’t lie because she didn’t report a crime … And he didn’t commit one”
Anna Raccon has a spiritual daughter.
- Hadleigh Fan
October 14, 2016 at 6:07 pm -
But will Innis-Hell apologise?
I suspect that her son had better be extra cautious about who he beds when he grows up …
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm -
Hold on, you mean, heaven forfend, she has given birth to a potential rapist?! *feels the collective SHUDDER from the entire SISTER-twitteral-HOOD from here in the depths of Norfolk*
- Bandini
October 14, 2016 at 7:42 pm -
I saw someone suggesting that the stand formerly named after her should now be renamed following today’s verdict. I’d go for the ‘Natasha Massey Stand’ myself.
- tdf
October 14, 2016 at 7:51 pm -
The Sun is still stirring the pot in the case with a headline which I will not link to.
- Bandini
October 14, 2016 at 8:15 pm -
The Guardian certainly seem most upset:
“… section 41 of the 1999 Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act was introduced to combat the twin myths liberally smeared on female rape complainants in the criminal process, effectively putting the complainant on trial – the myths that promiscuous women are more likely to consent to sex and less worthy of being believed.”
It’s now a ‘myth’ that “promiscuous women are more likely to consent to sex” – howzabout that, then?
“So for the past fortnight, the young woman, who has had to move house because of the social media campaign against her…” Didn’t Evans also have to ‘move house’?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/ched-evans-trial-showed-how-complainants-are-still-put-in-the-dock - Bandini
October 14, 2016 at 9:06 pm -
A good summing up here:
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/- Ho Hum
October 15, 2016 at 12:06 am -
Thanks for the link. Excellent synopsis. Shame it’s beyond the comprehension skills of the 140 character mob
- Ho Hum
- Bandini
- tdf
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Hadleigh Fan
- The Blocked Dwarf
- tdf
- Mudplugger
October 14, 2016 at 4:16 pm -
Tesco had an agenda and it’s worked, they are now being freshly seen as the customers’ friend for resisting opportunistic suppliers ramping up prices across the board without justification. Unilever had an agenda, largely fuelled by bitterness at the Brexit vote – which is odd coming from a company which shelters much of its creative accounting through Switzerland, a non-EU but famously tax-friendly state.
The greatest benefit has been the press coverage, listing all the famous products in the Unilever stable – a list of products which at least 17 million of us should now boycott completely until they learn how to accept defeat with dignity. If we all do that, their arrogant Chief Exec won’t last long.
- tdf
October 14, 2016 at 4:42 pm -
Tesco’s largest shareholder is the Norwegian Central Bank.
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 6:12 pm -
It probably worries the Brexiters more, nasty little xenophobes many of them are, that TESCO was founded by a half Polish JEW…alwveady.
(Jacob Edward Kohen , the ‘CO’ in ‘TESCO’ standing for the English spelling ‘Cohen’).- tdf
October 14, 2016 at 7:55 pm -
@TBD
I think that SOME Brexiters are xenophobes for sure, but I can’t say I’ve seen any evidence of anti-semitism from them.
I also think that some Brexiters have entirely valid and rational, non-racist concerns as regards immigration….feel free to call me a xenophobe!
What I think mainly, though, is that the lower middle class and working class people of Britain have been betrayed by its political establishment.
- Uh
October 15, 2016 at 11:36 am -
As a Brexit supporter what I object to is not immigration per se but government-subsidised immigration, which is what “points systems” are designed to remove. If people choose to come to the UK and they and their families can live without net taxpayer support over their lifetimes then, really, the more the merrier.
- tdf
- The Blocked Dwarf
- tdf
- The Blocked Dwarf
- gareth
October 14, 2016 at 8:10 pm -
Well, this nasty little Brexiter’s grandparents fought a war in support of Polish folks, and he worked for refugee Austrian JEWs for many years, and now has Polish colleagues – who he rates highly (and has Lithuanian friends – and Godson) . He just doesn’t like the supra-national regime that is the EU, with all it’s “ever closer union”, “Monnet method” engrenage, etc.
Just saying…
(and really shouldn’t feed stunted trolls)
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 8:49 pm -
If you follow the threads I was having a dwarvian dig at the ‘remoaners’ comment from Hadleigh and Mudplugger’s musings. But I do take the point that some of your best friends are Jewish.
- The Blocked Dwarf
- binao
October 14, 2016 at 9:41 pm -
I’m well aware that the obsession over Marmite to the exclusion of interest in the killing & mutilating of residents of Aleppo is the real point here.
I’m sure too that the BBC’s Brexit bad news department sucked this one up like I eat oysters, given the chance.
Even so, as a liker of the product, and not having sampled it for a while, I checked the cupboard. Well meaning do-gooders sometimes clear this widower’s cupboards and fridge of rotting or potentially harmful products. One large jar of Marmite dated August, can’t read the year; one of Bovril best by 1997 so monitoring service is obviously poor. No furry growths, but what could grow in it anyway? So no problems there.
Tried Vegemite once when in foreign parts, and put it in the bin, it’s vile.
These tastes are a bit odd. I also very much like biltong, made my own too, but oddly can’t stomach the flavoured varieties. - The Blocked Dwarf
October 14, 2016 at 9:55 pm -
I’m well aware that the obsession over Marmite to the exclusion of interest in the killing & mutilating of residents of Aleppo is the real point here.
Really? Say it ain’t so!(yeah you’re right of course but the sick feeling of hopelessness that Aleppo etc causes me, and I suspect most of my fellows here and those at the Tomes, is overwhelming to the point of having to deal with inanities of daily life in the yUK inorder to stay sane. )
- Cascadian
October 14, 2016 at 11:06 pm -
The landlady asked, “Raccoonistas have so far shown themselves to have admirable restraint over Marmageddon – are they any more engaged than Times readers in the prospect of us wandering into Armageddon?”
To which the patrons answered resoundingly-probably not-the mad ramblings of BoJo are apparently inconsequential in the face of Marmageddon, ChedEvans and a meander into the weeds of the “trinket box”. After 41 comments , 7 can loosely be attributed to “Aleppo” but not blindly stumbling into potential armageddon , 14 comments related to Marmite, and 20 comments on other subjects.
Nuclear destruction just does not have the cachet of the trivial
The landlady’s turn of phrase once again brings a wry grin to my face-“53% of the British public believe that we should intervene in Syria; quite what form that intervention (and with what? chocolate fighter jets?) should take is even more interesting.” Even after the worst prime minister of the yUK-camoron- was soundly defeated in parliament on that same question.
- suffolkgirl
October 15, 2016 at 1:27 am -
I’m more interested in Aleppo than in Marmite. However I have absolutely no idea as to how to resolve the situation, so I suppose like everyone I focus on what I do understand and hope that somehow the horrors of Syria aren’t visited on us. A pretty faint hope, I have to say. I should add however that my Facebook feed is full of shared reports about the bombing so make of that what you may.
- The Blocked Dwarf
October 15, 2016 at 5:55 am -
so I suppose like everyone I focus on what I do understand and hope that somehow the horrors of Syria aren’t visited on us.
/nutshell
- The Blocked Dwarf
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