The ‘Falsely Accused’ Strike Back.
Close to the Canadian border, in a small township called Watton, two unassuming Christian folk, Lale and Joan Roberts, had brought up their three daughters. It was the sort of community where nothing much ever happened. They may yet prove to make history.
Lale and Joan’s younger daughter has Down’s syndrome. I shall call her Lily – not her real name. They had an older daughter still living at home that I shall call Katie – again not her real name.
Seven years ago, Lale and Joan discovered that Katie, then aged 17, had been engaging in ‘inappropriate sexual conduct’ with a ‘family friend’.
This deeply conservative couple sought professional advice from the ‘Salmi Christian Counselling Service’ in the human form of Kathryn Salmi, a licensed professional counsellor. Katie went off to live with ‘family friends’ – not the ‘family friend’ mentioned before, but a couple who were members of another church.
Within a short time of counselling beginning with Kathryn Salmi, Katie allegedly ‘remembered’ that her father had been physically and sexually abusing her since the age of five…supported by her new counsellor, Katie confronted her parents with these allegations – and also pointed out that she had a deeply vulnerable younger sister, Lily, still being cared for by her parents, who she was sure was being similarly abused.
Kathryn Salmi reported her account of Katie’s allegations to the Department of Human Services (child protection) and also to the Michigan State Police. Life was never going to be as simple as making homespun ‘native art’ out of twigs again for the Roberts.
Investigators found no evidence that Lily, the younger child, was being or had been, physically or sexually abused. The third child, older than Katie gave evidence that:
She described her parents as fundamentalist Christians who hold strong beliefs and practice discipline that she felt was emotionally and physically abusive, but she nevertheless stated that she did not believe that her father would hurt L or K. She also stated that she never observed anything that could be characterised as sexual abuse in the home. The investigator ultimately determined that it was unnecessary to take any action. Police officers also investigated and reviewed K’s allegations, but no charges were brought against Lale or Joan Roberts.
I have highlighted the word ‘investigated’ because there was a major ‘flaw’ in this investigation – Katie had turned 18 in the following weeks, an adult, and thus they couldn’t force either the counsellor to reveal her notes of the ‘recovered memory sessions’ with Katie, nor physically examine Katie to ascertain whether she was still a virgin. However, the allegations had been made before Katie was 18 – and not reported until she became an adult some weeks later, thus violating child protection law.
Mr and Mrs Roberts sued Kathryn Salmi, the counsellor, for inducing ‘false memories’ in their daughter:
After Salmi “improperly implanted, or reinforced false memories of physical and sexual abuse,” Lale and Joan maintained, K severed all ties with her parents, investigators subjected them to civil and criminal investigations, and the community become aware of the allegations.
In fact the Robert’s local Pastor barred them from their church, adding that their youngest daughter, Lily, could no longer attend music recitals – apparently the ‘pianist was a strong proponent of repressed memory therapy, which he promoted through books on Satanic ritual abuse’….
The local court ruled that the therapist was not liable in tort for damages caused to a third party by her actions and/or treatments. The Roberts appealed and the Court of Appeal overturned the lower court.
Now on April 6th, the Supreme Court will hear arguments to determine whether a therapist is liable for damage caused to third parties by the choice of therapies employed by licensed therapists.
To get this far has cost the Roberts many tens of thousands of dollars – and Mrs Roberts has ambitiously embarked on a law degree. I wish her well. She is crowd funding to help pay for this.
Needless to say, the Roberts totally refute the allegations made against them and not a shred of evidence has ever been produced to support those allegations – the issue is not whether the allegations were or could have been true, but:
The court will consider whether a mental health professional has a duty of care to third parties who might foreseeably be harmed by the use of techniques that cause a patient to have false memories of sexual abuse.
The transcripts of the original hearings can be found here and here for those interested in following the case more closely.
It will be a case worth watching.
- Bill Sticker
March 10, 2016 at 5:07 pm -
I know you can implant false memories and even whole paradigms by using various forms of Neuro-Linguistic programming when the patient is in a receptive frame of mind (Sometimes with hypnosis, sometimes not). I feel a lot of the media hoo-ha about ‘historic sex abuse’ or ‘satanic sex abuse’ can be laid firmly at the door of over zealous therapists and ‘investigators’ and a lowering of the burden of proof for this category of case.
There’s an interesting article on the subject of false memories in psychology today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/media-spotlight/201211/implanting-false-memories and a more detailed article by an expert in the field, Dr Elizabeth Loftus here: https://faculty.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htm
- Carstairs
March 12, 2016 at 1:11 am -
Interestingly a well meaning hypnotist can evoke completely false and very detailed memories of past lives from a suitable subject, apparently without attempting to implant them . The Bloxham tapes are a set of more than 400 recordings of past-life hypnotic regression sessions made by a Welsh-based hypnotherapist named Arnall Bloxham and published in the 1970’s. The “memories” are extremely convincing but always seem to be traceable to known sources eventually. It would seem that a therapist fascinated by reincarnation can find what he wants while one fascinated by sex will get what he or she wants.
- Carstairs
- The Blocked Dwarf
March 10, 2016 at 6:59 pm -
nor physically examine Katie to ascertain whether she was still a virgin.
As you mentioned about another recent case, even if she had been found to be Virgo Intacta the courts don’t have to accept an unperforated hymen as evidence that
sexual intercourseRAPE, most foul, hasn’t taken place…oh no…that would be fair too easy and clear cut. There are , doubtless, ‘experts’ willing to testify-at tax payers expense of course- that ‘dad’ can rape ‘daughter’ for years without leaving any physical evidence.- windsock
March 11, 2016 at 5:48 am -
Oral rape does not always leave evidence. Depends in which ways she claims she was defiled.
- Helga Speck
March 21, 2016 at 11:16 am -
I attempted to help one guy who had been accused of the rape and buggery of a young girl from age 10 to 17 years. A couple of days after the last alleged rape and buggery she made her allegations, and at the medical she was found to be a virgin and had no injuries that were diagnostic of sexual abuse. He was convicted and is now serving an IPP sentence.
Expert for the Crown stated that “statistics show that some victims of rape have no injuries at all”.
I think that that is because they take their statistics from cases where there have been convictions – some of whom have been wrongly convicted. This was not oral rape that was alleged, but “rape” of the vagina and anus. That gentleman may never leave prison alive, as he won’t admit guilt to something that never happened in the first place.
- Helga Speck
- windsock
- Eccentric
March 10, 2016 at 7:19 pm -
Surely someone, apart from almost the whole wider world of c.9 billion NON-Anglophones – MUST by now have noticed?
That the past four decades ongoing irrational ‘Modern Mass Child Abuse Fake Panics’ occur only in, or stem from, the squinting Five Eyes Fascist Market phoney Anglophone! For the same old, centuries olde, callous psycho-lonial Power & Control freak, careers, charridies, ratings & profit delivered by bent mainstream media Mass Deception – deviously masked as so called ‘Child Protection’.
E.G. Orkney, only 3 decades ago, “Damn The Children When The Devil Must Be Found !”
” ‘And still all over Europe stood the horrible nurses itching to boil their children. Only his verses perhaps could stop them .’ I thought of those lines last Monday night, as I watched Panorama’s television account of the Orkney ‘Satanic abuse’ scandal. They come from W H Auden’s poem ‘Voltaire at Ferney’, which is about the defence of humanity against superstitious madness. Panorama played an audiotape: a 6 yr old girl screaming tearful denials to three adult interrogators. ”
“He did so put his dickie in your fanny” they insisted.
She screamed again… ” NO he didn’t! ”
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/damn-the-children-when-the-devil-must-be-found-1563398.html
https://fr.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A7x9Uk8xxeFWgjYANP6PAwx.;_ylc=X1MDMjExNDcxNjU1OQRfcgMyBGZyA3locy1DTkQtMDAyBGdwcmlkA3lPbTBGdFRvU2d1NHozd1JaWUFJWUEEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzIEb3JpZ2luA2ZyLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDOQRxdWVyeQNGaXZlIEV5ZXMEdF9zdG1wAzE0NTc2MzY2ODI-?p=Five+Eyes&fr2=sb-top-fr.search&hspart=CND&hsimp=yhs-002&type=A79FEF560EC_s58_g_e_d_n - Eccentric
March 10, 2016 at 7:46 pm - Henry Crun
March 10, 2016 at 8:29 pm -
Seems to me that the only thing the Christian church is good at is shocking their wounded.
- Ho Hum
March 10, 2016 at 10:58 pm -
They do spend an enormous amount on weaponry, don’t they?
http://www.tearfund.org/en/about_us/where_your_money_goes/
- Ho Hum
- Henry Crun
March 10, 2016 at 8:29 pm -
Shooting not shocking
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