Khat's Cradle.
When Somalia disintegrated into the lawless failed State it is today, many of its citizens fled over the border into neighbouring Kenya. Some came to London, some to Amsterdam, Rome, even New York. All craved reminders and comforts from their distant homeland.
The reminder they appear to have craved most was the soft bark peeled from the new shoots of the Catha edulis plant. This was no doubt because it formed an essential part of traditional courtship, being presented to the Father of the bride – his acceptance establishing whether he was prepared to hand his daughter over.
There may have been some Somalian exiles who merely wished to emulate the amphetamine-like sense of euphoria and excitement chewing this bark produced without going to the trouble of handing a daughter over. The fact that it turns your teeth green, reduces your sex-drive, and can induce psychosis doesn’t seem to bother Khat aficionados.
Those Somalians who had fled to Kenya, specifically Igembe in Meru county, discovered the promised land. A temperature range of 5 to 35 °C, on the north eastern slopes of Mount Kenya, with the mighty Kathita river close by – a putative Khat grower could ask no more of life, and soon the local coffee growers found themselves with offers they couldn’t refuse…and the hills were alive with the sound of miraa shoots being snapped off Catha trees, wrapped in banana leaves to keep them moist, and bundled into the ‘miraa jets’ as the foreign aid supplied Toyota 4 x 4 pick-up trucks are referred to in these parts, for onward transmission to pining Somalian exiles across the globe.
Those green shoots of miraa, have to be fresh, you see. Khat loses its potency after 24 hours. That said, Igembe Khat is a particularly potent variety which commands a high price for its ability to withstand 72 hours of travel to the Bristol Khat bars… Global air traffic is essential to this trade. Without the white man’s foresight in inventing jets, those Somalian exiles would never have been able to get the Khat to London…mind you, they’d have been a bit strapped herding Khats without the Toyotas for Igembe and Meru are at the end of long dusty tracks.
Fortunes were being made in Igembe, Fat Khats tilling the soil in the cradle of Khat production, indeed. The tiny township of Maua boasted no fewer than 32 different lawyer’s offices as allegiances were formed, promises broken, escrow needed to be held. Hotels were built and appeared on Trip Advisor.
Paul Goldsmith’s dissertation for his Doctorate on the subject of Khat production in Kenya occupied me for several hours but can be summarised for those with the attention span of a Khat chewer as – ‘the most efficient agricultural industry on the planet’. Barefooted Somalian refugees meet unsophisticated small town Kenyan farmers and between them manage to conjure a multi-billion Kenyan shilling industry, that requires distribution of the product within 24 hours, out of the arid earth – without a hint of government subsidies or foreign aid. The Kenyan government doesn’t even list Khat as an export, though it is estimated at 14 million pounds if my maths is correct, making it Kenya’s fourth largest export.
Everyone happy then? Noooo. There is much Khat-a-wauling in the valleys. The British Home Secretary – at the time (2005) Charles Clarke – consulted the Somalian community in Britain as to whether he should allow these 20 tonnes of Khat to go on arriving at Heathrow airport every day; the active ingredients, cathinone and cathine being class ‘C’ drugs and all that, but ever mindful of cultural traditions and concerned that he might put paid to the prescribed method of courting in that community, he commissioned a survey.
As it happens, 50% of the 100,000 strong British Somalian community begged him to bring in a ban; the other 50% were too stoned to understand the question. Another 7 years slid past as Somalians contentedly chewed on the Khat, until Theresa May brought in just such a ban last year. It has provoked economic meltdown in dusty Meru County.
Kirimi Mbogo, a lawyer practicing in Maua and the main partner at Mbogo and Muriuki Advocates, claims to have put on hold a $500,000 property development project as he awaits the final decision by the British.
“I have received all the financing to develop the property into apartments but I am waiting to see if the ban succeeds,” Mr Mbogo said. “If that happens, then I will not proceed.
“Without the export income from khat, business here will be drastically reduced.”
In fact, the local Headmaster is going to have to go back to teaching children:
“I used to ferry miraa (khat) from Maua to Nairobi four times a week using 27 Toyota Hilux trucks, where it was repackaged for export. I used to make around £2,100 a month. Now I am lucky if I bring in £250 per month,” he says.
Reuters tells me that the average wage in Kenya is 41 pounds a month.
The Guardian is beside itself, accusing ‘Theresa May of crushing indigenous farmers’ in Africa so that ‘they do not have money for food’. Typical Guardian – ‘Tory Toffs bringing starvation to African township, etc. etc.’,
Britain has the largest Somali population in Europe. According to the Office for National Statistics, Somali-born migrants have the lowest employment rate among all immigrants in the UK.
Perhaps the 50% of Somalians who voted in favour of the ban might be hoping that the other 50% will come down off the ceiling and get a job now?
- Duncan Disorderly
July 1, 2015 at 9:20 am -
The drug doesn’t seem to be all that bad. It can be taken to extremes, but so can anything. I can’t persuade myself the drug warranted a ban.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 9:26 am -
It’s necessary to keep in line with the US and the war on terrorists/drugs/paedophiles/humanity. Delete as applicable.
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/khat - Henry the Horse
July 1, 2015 at 12:56 pm -
Anna said khat has effects like amphetamines but then goes on to say about the thesis: “can be summarised for those with the attention span of a Khat chewer”. Actually the effect of amphetamines is to increase concentration. Sartre and many writers have used them and they are apparently quite popular with students facing the perennial essay crisis currently. Even the main medicines children are given for Attention Deficit Disorder are basically an amphetamine base.
I suspect the effects are similar to mate which also helps concentration and which I have long been a fan of. I understand the current Pope is also a devotee and it does make me wonder if there is not something of a double standard going on here regarding acceptable South American habits and unacceptable African ones.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 12:59 pm -
The Pope is into Coca leaves
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/06/30/pope-francis-might-chew-bolivian-coca/- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 1:00 pm -
coca.. mate is a tea… Sorry mate…
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 10:04 am -
It has provoked economic meltdown in dusty Meru County.
Khatastrophe.
- JuliaM
July 1, 2015 at 10:38 am -
/applause
- Gloria Smudd
July 1, 2015 at 10:51 am -
Very quicKh off the marKh there, Mr B-D: I see you weren’t Khatnapping,
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 12:15 pm -
but our fish said, ‘no! no!
make that Khat go away!
tell that Khat in the Hat
you do NOT want to play.Possible new Just Say “NO!” campaign ? Remember Kids, just say NO to de Khat inde Hat, mahn..
Mind you, wasn’t there a song about K-K-Khathmandu ?
- DtP
July 1, 2015 at 2:00 pm -
I expected this thread would send me khatatonic but, if anything I found it quite khathartic.
- DtP
- The Blocked Dwarf
- JuliaM
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 10:26 am -
I would have thought you would be praising the free-enterprise spirit and entrepreneurship of those Somali khat farmers. Free market rules OK – doesn’t it? If you can make more from khat farming than being a teacher, the logic is: farm! Also, it surely means we don’t have to provide so much is aid to those Somalis who, now being unprofitable, might turn to – er – more anti-social methods to gain a living. Also, they might, with reference to recent posts, feel less of a need to escape Africa.
The same arguments could be applied to the marijuana growers of Mexico or the coca plant cultivators in South America. If there is a market in Europe/North America (and now the successful Chinese market too) then why not allow farmers to supply what buyers want? Western up-tightness and morality fever would seem to be the answer.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 10:32 am -
I wonder how this fervent Guardianista is viewing the Khatroversy
“Ferguson quite rightly treats these substances as drugs, and says that they ‘gave English society an almighty hit; the Empire… was built on a huge sugar, caffeine and nicotine rush’, just as, it might be added, the American Empire is founded on an apparently universal appetite for slabs of greasy processed beef, chunks of chicken concreted over with batter, and blistery, lava-like oozings of pizza. Empires should come with a health warning.
Ferguson is at his most startling when he deals with the competition between British and American models of empire. He chillingly regards the Pilgrim Fathers as a breed of rabid ‘religious fundamentalists’, and admits that the earliest British plantations in the New World were an exercise in ‘what is today known as “ethnic cleansing”.’
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/jan/05/historybooks.features- JuliaM
July 1, 2015 at 10:40 am -
Windsock, it’s far from a free market:
Edward Muruu is one of the earliest pioneers of the khat export trade. A retired headmaster at a local primary school, he says he has experienced unprecedented losses since the ban came into effect.
“I used to ferry miraa (khat) from Maua to Nairobi four times a week using 27 Toyota Hilux trucks, where it was repackaged for export. I used to make around £2,100 a month. Now I am lucky if I bring in £250 per month,” he says.
With the European market gone, the only place left for Muruu to sell his stimulant is Somalia, where consumers now dictate how much they pay – and it’s not much.
“The other issue with the Somali market is that the only people who can transport miraa to Mogadishu are Kenyan Somalis, meaning that the rest of us drivers have been put out of work,” says a former worker of Muruu’s, who only identified himself as Kanda.
Good old tribal racism and protectionism! Fabulous! Still, I’m sure a modern government will see sense and…
Wait.
In the meantime, the Kenyan government is trying hard to get the ban lifted, with president Uhuru Kenyatta even promising the farmers in Maua as recently as February that he will petition to have the market reopened for them.
Africa’s doomed. This is why.
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 10:46 am -
Africans discriminate against each other – should we give advice on Equality Laws and tell them of the benefits of the free movements of people?
The most confusing incident I ever saw of inter-racial argument was in a Southwark housing office; a Caribbean woman shouting at a sub-Saharan clerk “You’re just a dirty Africaaaan! You filthy Africaaaan!”, You live, you look, you learn, you sigh.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 10:54 am -
When I worked in Peckham I recall a lady from Trinidad shaking her head and remarking on the behaviour of the Jamaicans…
The Americans of course think that all British people are English.- Dave
July 1, 2015 at 11:54 am -
Back in the mid sixties I was living just off Ladbroke Grove in West London and managed to secure a holiday job at the Ffyffes banana packing plant nearby.
That was an eye opener. I’d moved from Cornwall with my parents a couple of years earlier and just a year or so after the Notting Hill race riots. I was always very careful to treat everyone equally regardless of the colour of their skin, so it was a surprise to hear the black West Indians calling the black West Africans racist names. And as Moor commented, the different islanders kept themselves to themselves.
The race relations industry was in its infancy, so it was to be a few years before we were all being told that only white people could be racist
- Dave
- JimS
July 1, 2015 at 1:42 pm -
Walking in the local public park this Sunday, past the people of Pakistani heritage playing cricket, one of their number called out loudly, “Stop playing like a f***ing black n***er!”
Good to know that he has ‘integrated’ and adopted the old British values of free self-expression.
- Backwoodsman
July 1, 2015 at 5:39 pm -
Having worked with well educated (MBA type), British Pakistanis, I can confirm they are undoubtedly the most racist people towards Africans that I have ever encountered !
- Backwoodsman
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 1:45 pm -
You live, you look, you learn, you sigh.
You have just managed to summon up centuries of wisdom, nay the whole human experience, in an upmarket t-shirt slogan. I am so 1/2″ing it.
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm -
Sum up!
FREE ED!
- Bandini
July 1, 2015 at 2:21 pm -
‘Summon up’ works too, TBD! I think I prefer it, even…
- Bandini
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 2:25 pm -
Can we share royalties?
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Moor Larkin
- windsock
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 10:48 am -
That review is bonkers. Lots of counter-assertions but no evidence. And gawdelpusall if burgers and KFC are now drugs equivalents.
- JuliaM
- Moor Larkin
- Joe Public
July 1, 2015 at 10:29 am -
One side effect appears to be the khataclysmic khatabolism of Somali society, khatalepsy.
No doubt other readers will provide a khatalogue of puns.
- binao
July 1, 2015 at 10:36 am -
So fresh i.e viable plant cuttings have been freely imported in large quantities & it’s a drug?
Hard to see why we’d want to do that.
Not quite the same as stringless beans or cut roses from Kenya, is it?
Or sending jars of Marmite to expats.The Khat growers & associates have had their happy time; time to get back to work. Nothing has been taken away from them; an opportunity arose, they took it, now it’s gone.
Handwringers not needed here.- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 2:06 pm -
Or sending jars of Marmite to expats.
Perhaps a new line in Khat flavoured marmite (nothing could make it taste worse than it already does) -“Khatamite” ?…no, no, maybe not such a good brand name…
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 2:25 pm -
I’m loving it.
- Gloria Smudd
July 1, 2015 at 3:41 pm -
Me too .. I think Marmite’s the Khat’s Whiskhers.
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 3:57 pm -
I think Windsock just likes the idea of your average Daily Mail reader eating a spread Kenyan Khatamite soldier.
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 4:11 pm -
Well, there’s that. And how many innuendos can you get in one phrase “eating a spread Kenyan Khatamite soldier”?
I just like the word “catamite”. The first time I ever encountered it was in the first sentence of Anthony Burgess’ “Earthly Powers”. (Great book if you’re ever at a loss for a good read.)
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 4:30 pm -
The infamous opening sentence if I recall aright? Something about being in bed with a catamite ?
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 4:42 pm -
That’s the one.
- windsock
- The Blocked Dwarf
- windsock
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Gloria Smudd
- windsock
- The Blocked Dwarf
- JuliaM
July 1, 2015 at 10:37 am -
“The Guardian is beside itself, accusing ‘Theresa May of crushing indigenous farmers’ in Africa so that ‘they do not have money for food’. Typical Guardian – ‘Tory Toffs bringing starvation to African township, etc. etc.’,”
Well, might one ask why they don’t grow food instead of…
Oh.
“Miriti Ngozi, chairman of the Miraa Traders Association, says that many farmers and traders are no longer able to pay school fees or even buy enough food for their families.
The miraa trade was the heartbeat of this town; it drove everything else.
“You have to understand that in this region, subsistence farming has long been overshadowed by the more prestigious miraa farming. Now that people are no longer making money from miraa, they do not have money to buy food and many families are sleeping hungry,” he says.
Yet many remain reluctant to uproot their khat crops and plant maize instead, holding on to the hope that their fortunes might one day return.”
Christ on a bike! They’d rather starve than accept a reduced amount? FFS!
- Mudplugger
July 1, 2015 at 11:40 am -
Meanwhile, in the UK, acres of red-faced, shit-shovelling, dairy farmers stay in rurally dumb denial of the global milk-price and expect everyone to pay over the odds for their simple product (and their next new Range Rover), rather than getting the message and growing something other than tasty grass and even tastier EU subsidies.
Farmers, eh? Never happy the world over.- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 11:51 am -
There seem to be quite a few growing solar panels… Nothing like the drug of the politically correct.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-20757817
- Moor Larkin
- Mudplugger
- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 10:41 am -
I’m surprised at the Guardian. You’d have thought they’d be delighted; capitalist fat-khats getting their come-uppance and all that.
- Ian Reid
July 1, 2015 at 10:47 am -
Well let’s have a laugh shall we. Who cares if we put Third World peasants out of work just to suit our cultural preferences. Some of you might not be laughing so loudly when the full stupidity of the Psychoactive bill starts being felt. You might find yourselves being legally as much druggies as these Somalians. The bill has had to exempt items such as coffee, nicotine and alcohol which are psychoactive substances, just bear that in mind when you sip your cocoa. It’s just a matter of degree.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 10:58 am -
It’s not so much the “out of work” bit as stifling trade and the creation of wealth. Look at what the worst things are that the Yanks say about Khat: “There are a number of adverse physical effects that have been associated with heavy or long-term use of khat, including tooth decay and periodontal disease; gastrointestinal disorders such as constipation, ulcers, inflammation of the stomach, and increased risk of upper gastrointestinal tumors; and cardiovascular disorders such as irregular heartbeat, decreased blood flow, and heart attack.” They even specify: “Although there is no evidence that khat use causes mental illness, chewing khat leaves may worsen symptoms in patients who have pre-existing psychiatric conditions.”
This is just a bureaucracy that has no truck with de niggers, but I’ll bet they all cluckingly approve of the ban on the Confederate flag as they cluster round their water coolers.
- Dave
July 1, 2015 at 11:56 am -
If the government cannot control the supply and impose a tax or import duty then they will ban it.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 12:49 pm -
With the legalization of recreational marijuana in Colorado, many people are now planning their vacations to our beautiful state.
https://www.coloradopotguide.com/
- Moor Larkin
- Dave
- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 12:00 pm -
There is currently something a fashion in Britain amongst ‘environmentalists’ for something called ‘re-wilding’. This involves taking land out of agricultural production and leaving it to nature, despite the growing population in the UK and it’s need for good food.
When you say, “Who cares if we put Third World peasants out of work just to suit our … preferences.”, might I respectfully point out that we’re doing the same thing in Britain. Seems it’s OK to stop a Cumbrian hill-farmer producing high-quality food (and a by-product of mid-quality wool) for the UK population, but not to stop Kenyan farmers producing mind-altering substances (though leaving them free to produce healthy foodstuffs).
It’s the same people demanding both. A wee hint of hypocricy and inconsistent thinking, perhaps?
- Ian Reid
July 1, 2015 at 2:29 pm -
There is more than enough stupidity to go round. Our Government (the EU) is doing this to us, because the Common Agricultural Policy is an EU competence let us not forget, because it is the current fashion. The irony is that the eco loons oppose the type of farming which produces high yields, and therefore requires less land, leaving more free to be re-wilded.
Me, I think the test should be if the Cumbrian hill farmers can find a market for their meat and wool, let them produce it.
- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 5:24 pm -
Re-wilding agricultural land in the UK is nothing to do with the government or the EU. It’s a fetish of certain ‘environmental’ groups, supported by the likes of George Monbiot.
- Ian Reid
July 1, 2015 at 5:52 pm -
Well the EU has thing called set aside. as part of the CAP see this page:-
http://www.ukagriculture.com/crops/setaside.cfm
So it is official EU policy. I accept that loons like Monbiot are into this re-wilding thing, but the point is they have no power to do it, only to promote it. Has nay hill farming been stopped by these people? Can you post some proof of this?
I will see your hatred of Monbiot and double it believe me, but farming in this country is run by the EU, who I will admit are in thrall to the environmentalists, but as yet I’ve to be convinced that the re-wilding agenda has gained any traction.
- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 6:19 pm -
‘Set aside’ is an environmental payment made to farmers to manage small parts of their land for the benefit of wildlife – larger headlands to arable fields, beetle banks, odd corners planted up with wild flowers, that sort of thing. It’s not about taking whole farms, or whole blocks of adjacent farms, completely out of production.
Have a google about the valley of Ennerdale in Cumbria. I think there are a couple of smaller patches, too; fortunately, the areas involved are not large in relation to the total area of land in agricultural production in the UK. The problem could become serious, though – quite large parts of the environmental lobby in the UK seem to have rather been taken over by people with a rather extreme political agenda, rather as the unions were a couple of generations ago.
- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 6:46 pm -
http://www.theeuropeannaturetrust.com/downloads/wildlifearticle20134.pdf
Bottom of the page, it says in big letters that sheep have caused more environmental damage in Britain that all building work. Big call, that…..
- Ian Reid
July 2, 2015 at 10:19 am -
I agree these people are idiots, and dangerous idiots at that. But it says they bought the land by public subscription, which means someone sold it. Perhaps farming on it had become uneconomic. But that is a far cry from a Government mandating it, so the two aren’t really comparable in my opinion.
- Moor Larkin
July 2, 2015 at 10:35 am -
* sheep have caused more environmental damage in Britain that all building work *
Take the sheep away and moorland will revert to woodland, so that’s probably what they’re on about. The Highland Clearances were mostly predicated on getting rid of the unprofitable farmers and giving the land over to profitable wool.
- Ian Reid
- Engineer
- Ian Reid
- binao
July 1, 2015 at 6:48 pm -
Not a dairy farm left now near my South Downs village.
Chief agricultural activity seems to be livery, closely followed by attempts to mass build could be anywhere homes on greenfield sites. We do have one intensive outdoor pig farm right next door to a recent housing development, but rumour has that it’s just to make people prefer a housing development. A kind of organic chemical warfare.
Oh, & we have approval for a solar farm facing into the national park. presumably just another form of subsidy, but in this case care of the late edstone, not the eu.- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 8:32 pm -
Cheshire is similar. It has a lot of heavy clay land, which used to be regarded as not good for the plough, but very good for grass. Dairy herds everywhere. No more; there are a few dairy herds left, but they tend to be very large (200 -300 head) operations, and the odd beef suckler herd. However, with increasing size and power of agricultural machinery, arable production seems to have become popular, with most farmers going for cereals, oilseed rape and maize, it seems. It helps that a lot of Cheshire is quite flat; it doesn’t help that it’s still clay, and very boggy in a wet season.
- Engineer
- Engineer
- Alex
July 1, 2015 at 3:45 pm -
I’m with you 100% on this one Engineer. Thank you for saving me the time to write my own comment, you put it so much better than I think I would have.
- Ian Reid
- Moor Larkin
- Henry the Horse
July 1, 2015 at 12:49 pm -
I am surprised Anna is naive enough to believe Home Office commissioned surveys. These things can always be fixed to get the results one desires. It reminds me of when my GP wanted to sell his town centre Georgian surgery and establish himself instead three miles out near the ringroad in a Community Health Centre. Nobody I knew wanted this but somehow he commissioned a survey and got back a ringing endorsement of the inconvenient move.
- Peter Raite
July 2, 2015 at 9:11 am -
I think what says more is that even after the departure of Professor Nutt et all, and the advent of a much more compliant ACMD, the body repeatedly failed to decide that khat use was anything like as problematic as the puritanical prohibitionists would have us believe. Problem use exists, undoubtedly, but in many respects it seems little different to alcohol use.
There could also be said to be another unacknowledged factor. For many years I liked on the border between Haringey and Enfield in North London, just south of the North Circular Road, where there has long been a Cypriot community. In reality, of course, that meant two communities – Greek and Turkish – bonded yet divided. The main road of Green Lanes heading north is scattered by a seemingly deliberate and regimented series of alternate choices: a Greek barbers, a Turkish barber; Greek hairdressers, Turkish hairdressers; Greek bakery, Turkish bakery, etc. There are also the non-description former shops home to respective “clubs,” where older gentlemen – who look little different from each other despite their clear affiliations – while away the hours, drinking, smoking, playing dominoes, and watching the appropriate TV channels courtesy of dodgy satellite subscriptions.
At some point, it may have been around 2008, a couple of years before I and Mrs C eventually moved South of the River, a vacant shop became apparent as being a new variation of this private club theme, but the allusion to Somalia in the name (the exact nature of which now evades me) and the occasionally sight of spent khat leaves in the back alley made it clear that this place served a smaller and newer clientele, rather than either of the long-standing ones.
It would seem that a lot of the time wasted by the more habitual khat-chewers was in fact simply a byproduct of the legal status of newly arrived asylum seekers. Forbidden from working, but with an income, they had a lot of time on their hands, and filled it in a way that was all too familiar to them. It is also, of course, very much a male thing. Their wives complained that their men spent all day chewing khat, rather than working, even though that pattern was effectively dictated by the prohibition on them working in the first place. In a way, this is little different from the British ex-pat who retire to sunnier climes, only to while away the ours in the local “English pub” because they have nothing else to do.
- Peter Raite
- Bandini
July 1, 2015 at 1:12 pm -
I once had a branch-chewing nutter accost me close to my home (NW London at the time, many years ago). I hadn’t heard of khat at the time & thought he was just another everyday-lunatic, albeit an exotic one, what with having half a tree hanging out of his mouth.
He glued himself to me & was irrationally insistent in being led to a petrol-station, despite showing no sign of being a) the owner of a vehicle nor b) in any fit state to drive one. Maybe the dessert of choice – after a main-course of wood – is a snifter of gasoline, who knows?I can’t remember how I got rid of him but do remember whizzing past my own front door without stopping – the bug-eyed fool was quite scary & I didn’t want him knowing where I lived. But having said all that, I’m still not in favour of banning it. Nor other substances.
- Ancient+Tattered Airman
July 1, 2015 at 1:25 pm -
I saw plenty of it when I was in the middle east. They can go around like zombies. Work? What’s that?
- Bandini
July 1, 2015 at 1:33 pm -
“Khat plant ‘boosts sperm power’”!
https://www.erowid.org/plants/khat/khat_info5.shtml- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm -
Not much use if it also reduces sex drive, though! Rather like fitting a much bigger engine in the car, but taking the wheels off.
- Bandini
July 1, 2015 at 1:54 pm -
Indeed! And I’m not sure that ‘power’ always equates with ‘quality’ – seeing what struts out of a typical gym might suggest not!
- Henry the Horse
July 1, 2015 at 7:57 pm -
LOL.
- Bandini
- Engineer
- Roderick
July 1, 2015 at 1:52 pm -
A bit reminiscent of betel-nut chewing in parts of East Asia. The taxi driver next to you at the lights winds down his window and spits out a large gob of blood-red saliva, the spray from which goes everywhere, including on your car or your person. No doubt this sort of thing looks charmingly rural in the middle of the bush, but in the downtown area of of a busy city it’s just plain bizarre.
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 3:25 pm -
Why do you think they have brass spittoons in here….
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 4:01 pm -
downtown area of of a busy city it’s just plain bizarre
That’s ‘bizarre’ as in a CDCer’s wet dream, right?
- Moor Larkin
- Mudplugger
July 1, 2015 at 2:43 pm -
Wonder how far a smiling Somali can run when he’s on his local drug of choice ? 5,000m ….. 10,000m ? Or just far enough not to hear the door-bell ringing for an hour……
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 3:24 pm -
Now you’re just being khatty …
- Mudplugger
July 1, 2015 at 4:44 pm -
But only for a Mo…..
- Mudplugger
- Moor Larkin
- Alex
July 1, 2015 at 3:51 pm -
Is this not a case of putting the Khat amongst the pigeons?
- Gloria Smudd
July 1, 2015 at 3:58 pm -
Would that be the Khat who khrept into the khrypt, khrapped and khrept out again?
- windsock
July 1, 2015 at 4:12 pm -
I feel a Mud song coming on (the horror! the horror!)
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 4:45 pm -
If it had gone into the khatakhombs, it might have ended up walking like an Egyptian.
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 6:03 pm -
it might have ended up walking like an Egyptian.
Should have gotten travel insurance from khomparethemeerkhat.khom ?
- The Blocked Dwarf
- windsock
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 4:14 pm -
This is a great place for chewing the khat, as it happens.
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 4:33 pm -
A tail of 9 Khats?
- Mudplugger
July 1, 2015 at 4:45 pm -
Or Khat O’ Nine Tails ?
- Mudplugger
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Gloria Smudd
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 3:59 pm -
*must resist the urge to ‘shop a LOLKhAt picture…must resist…*
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 4:19 pm -
If it’s now a new law, I daresay there’ll be a plot in Eastenders soon to demonstrate the full horror of a khat epidemic overwhelming Walford.
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/media/2013/January/p0137y8x.jpg- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 4:32 pm -
Kat Moon-dropping the Aitch from ‘khat’ since September 2000.
- Gloria Smudd
July 1, 2015 at 5:56 pm -
Inspired, Mr BD!
- Gloria Smudd
- The Blocked Dwarf
- Moor Larkin
July 1, 2015 at 5:17 pm -
Khat fight: Harmless recreational drug or a recruitment tool for terrorists?
“Khat is legal in the UK, as are mafrishes, but spirited campaigns to outlaw it on health and social grounds have been galvanised in the past year by claims that terror cells are operating wherever khat is chewed, and that al-Shabaab is focusing its recruitment efforts on disenfranchised Somali youth with khat-addled minds. CNN said that reporters have been attacked while trying to enter mafrishes; the Huffington Post said that it had been advised not even to attempt access. A reporter with Vice magazine said he tried khat, washed it down with beer, and “got all hyper and threw a chair”.My sources were less certain of the dangers. “The most radical thing I’ve ever seen at a mafrish is a group of old men watching porn on the telly,” said one anthropologist.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/khat-fight-harmless-recreational-drug-or-a-recruitment-tool-for-terrorists-7893373.html
Notably, however, there were no women – and for many observers it is the delicate gender politics in Somali communities that has inflamed much of the khat debate. Typically, women and children settled in Britain before their husbands after leaving the East African refugee camps during the turmoil of the 1990s. Thus Somali women tend to be better integrated and can often be the principal source of income. An unemployed man’s khat habit can be seen as an abandonment of familial responsibility and an inversion of societal norms.The most prominent anti-khat campaigner in the UK, however, is a man. By his own admission, Abukar Awale was once a problem khat user, who found his life consumed by the routine of his habit. He fell into a life of petty crime and after an altercation left him in Middlesex Hospital with serious stab wounds, he dedicated his life to the outlawing of the substance he blamed for his ills.
The links to al-Shabaab have been an unexpected boon to Awale’s campaign and his focus now is to consolidate what are at present unconfirmed, and hotly contested, ties. “This is the tool for me,” Awale said. “I will put this on the table and say, ‘Now you must act’. And they will act. When this country hears terrorism, they will act.”
- Sigillum
July 1, 2015 at 5:36 pm -
My understanding is that knife crime is rife amongst the Somali community in London. See under this head Damilola Taylor and many more. Certain areas have become virtual no go zones. As I say, my understanding. I went to a lecture by the owner of one of the UK’s most experienced anti – piracy consultancies last year – an ex Royal Marine Warrant officer now in his early 50’s . To the dismay of his audience he kept insisting that now they were allowed to use guns, they would respond proportionately eg firing single warning shots, unlike US counterparts who would open up with the heavy machine guns. I, along with most of the audience, though heavy calibre ordinance coupled with artillery and poison gas were all all perfectly legit.
He did, however, confirm, that London was the major centre for laundering the proceeds of ransoms obtained by piracy. When it comes to piracy, I am firmly in Julius Caesar’s camp: after he had been captured and ransomed, he went back with a fleet and had them all crucified.
The principle exports of Somalia are in my view, knife crime, general violence and piracy. Also some runners.
Right, I’m off to watch “Captain Phillips”.- Mr Ecks
July 2, 2015 at 2:37 am -
Which is why all 100,000 of them should be returned to Somali where they can fill their time restoring the khat industry to full vigour.
- Peter Raite
July 2, 2015 at 9:20 am -
Damilola Taylor was stabbed with a broken bottle, not a knife. Neither he nor his attackers were Somalian.
- Mr Ecks
- Sigillum
July 1, 2015 at 5:38 pm - Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 6:24 pm -
I suppose if the Kenyan farmers have to grub out their trees and return their land to food production, they could always make some khatapults out of the surplus wood….
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 1, 2015 at 6:32 pm -
Think we can expect to see ‘Hand Made Ethnic Khatapults from genuine ethnic Kenyan Khat trees’ on etsy anyday now….and a link to it on CiF. Of course they would have to sold without the elastic so as not to enrage the Nanny Says Children Shouldn’t Play With Toys That Glorify Violence mob and probably ID45 schemed as well….
- Engineer
July 1, 2015 at 6:38 pm -
Alternatively, they could grow willow trees instead. They have khatkins in the right season.
- Engineer
- The Blocked Dwarf
- The Blocked Dwarf
July 2, 2015 at 10:56 am -
Off topic but I got this from ebay : Hello,
Effective immediately, we’re updating our offensive materials and prohibited items policy to prohibit the sale of Confederate battle flags and many items containing this image. We’re banning these items from all of our global sites.
We believe this image has become a contemporary symbol of divisiveness and racism. Our decision is consistent with our long-standing policy that prohibits the sale of items that promote or glorify hatred, violence and intolerance. This action isn’t expected to impact the listing and sale of authentic historical items – or other items of historical significance – from the American Civil War period.
Over the next few days, we’ll be removing listings of Confederate battle flags as well as those that contain this image. We’ll refund all insertion fees associated with such listings. This initial removal of listings won’t count as a policy violation against your account.
Going forward, we’ll also block new listings of Confederate battle flags, as well as items containing this image.
Thanks for your understanding and – as always – for selling with us.
Regards,
The eBay Team - A farah
May 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm -
You wonder y they call them pakis. Even though I think this page for bnp party group at their Best but ya still all funny some of your race comments
- A farah
May 20, 2016 at 11:12 pm -
I think mr awale had some mental issues to start with mix that with khat use plus not finding a job n hope just to get free money to chew everyday cause him problems. I believe back in Somalia he would rob people with gun point n chew with money but ere was a different ball game n instead of taking responsibility n trying to find a decent job he blames all his problems for khat use. People drink alcohol n smoke but still go work everyday so y was he different from all of us
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