The Buried Truth? – More Savile allegations.
Another day and another half dozen ‘truly awful, dreadful’ examples of the savage abuse Savile allegedly inflicted on vulnerable children in Children’s Homes.
Henshaw’s School for the Blind – the media version.
“Henshaws School for the Blind at centre of new Jimmy Savile claims”.
As you might imagine – being at the centre of the further allegations, especially in view of the additional vulnerability of its pupils, Henshaw’s mustered an impressive six heads of departments to devote part of their time to investigating:
A single allegation of sexual assault by Jimmy Savile (JS) of the complainant, then a 13-15 year old pupil at Henshaws School for the Blind (the School), when on a trip to a television studio in the mid-1970s (the Complaint).
They must have been worried sick. Six heads of Department. But, er…
The Team attempted to contact the complainant without success.
The notification of the complaint was by means of a Police Officer’s note of the telephone conversation with him on 21 October 2012. That note has not been seen or verified by the Complainant and therefore the Complaint cannot be reproduced in this report.
Being unable to discuss the Complaint with the complainant or to find any reference or witness recollection of the Complaint, the trip to the studio or the programme referred to we cannot corroborate the complaint.
The investigation team have not found evidence of any formal association between JS and the Charity, whether as a visitor, fundraiser, donor or volunteer. The Charity has no record of any access arrangements being requested or afforded to JS or of any checks about him being undertaken in the light of this.
They also go on to point out the blitheringly obvious – that given the nature of the disability of their pupils – they were always accompanied by a member of staff when away from the familiar surrounding of the school….
Penhurst Children’s Home – the media version.
“ACTION for Children is refusing to say when it expects to complete an investigation into whether Jimmy Savile abused severely disabled children in Chipping Norton.”
No media hype there – these children were emphatically ‘severely disabled’ – Penhrust cared for a large number of thalidomide victims. You can imagine the distress of the staff, fearing that in trying to brighten the lives of those children, they might inadvertently have put them in the hands of Britain’s ‘most prolific paedophile’.
True to form, the allegation arrived at Yewtree in an anonymous letter.
The information regarding Action for Children was contained in an anonymous letter, which stated that “Jimmy Savile made several visits to The National Children’s Home,Penhurst, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire during the 1970s when it was home to a large number of thalidomide victims.”
A total of 153 former staff members who worked at the school at the time were contacted by letter – only one had any recollection of Savile – that he opened a fete in the 1970s, and departed ‘shortly afterwards’. Nine former students of Penhurst were contacted, none of these students had any recollection of ever seeing Savile at Penhurst.
The conclusion of this Investigation is that it is likely that Savile did visit Penhurst School in the 1970s. It is likely that he opened a school fete, albeit the only evidence to support this conclusion arises from one former staff member.
Meanwhile, hundreds of parents of past students, many of whom would have inevitably passed away by now, will have had sleepless nights having read the BBC site, wondering if terrible things had happened to their vulnerable children. They hadn’t – it is just possible that their lives might have been brightened by a short visit to open a fete by one J Savile.
Grrrr.
Parkland’s Children’s Home – the media version.
Did Savile target Gloucestershire children’s home? – ITV Live update.
Julie Miles set to investigating:
It is alleged by Ruth that during her stay in Parklands Children’s unit in Gloucestershire, she was sexually assaulted on one occasion during a night when she was sleeping in her bed. She believes this was by Jimmy Savile and another male adult.
The enquiry has taken 11 months to fully investigate.
This investigation started on the 1st April 2014. Since then an interview with Ruth has taken place and a full and extensive research through available files, council minutes, newspaper articles and past and present policies has been undertaken. It has not been possible to find any recorded evidence to confirm that Jimmy Savile or any other celebrity had access … at Parklands during the period of time relevant to the alleged incident. Ruth has taken part willingly and has described her time at Parklands with much clarity for the most part but has never really been certain about her recollection of Jimmy Savile.
The main conclusion of this investigation is that there is no evidence to confirm that Jimmy Savile visited Parklands Children’s Unit during the timeframe of this investigation (1977 –1981).
Next!
The Little Ride Children’s Home, Brentford – no media version.
Carol Hamilton got the job of investigating the claims of:
XX, now an adult, that he was sexually abused on three separate occasions by Jimmy Savile (JS) when he was aged 4-5 years whilst he and his brother XY, were resident at the Little Ride Children’s Home in Brentford from March 1985 until October 1986. The exact dates of the abuse are not known.
The investigation team could not find any evidence of JS visiting the Little Ride during the period of time that XX was a resident. The investigation could not find any media reports reporting JS visiting The Little Ride or anywhere else in the London Borough of Hounslow during the relevant period.The independent investigator could not find any evidence to corroborate the allegations made by XX and it was not possible to conclude that the alleged incidents took place.
The ‘Little Ride’ report is particularly worth reading in full. You can only feel sorrow for the unhappy man ‘XX’ has become.
Sevenoaks school – the media version:
A SCHOOL in Sevenoaks is at the centre of an investigation into historical child abuse by Jimmy Savile. [Ed: I thought Henshaw’s was at the centre?]
Interestingly – Sevenoaks haven’t published their full report, I only have the executive version, and only the Governors have the full version – they have promised to come back to me if they think I can see the full versions….so I don’t know who investigated for them, or on what basis they decided the following:
A former pupil said that “Savile attended Sevenoaks School re a charity event for Stoke Mandeville and took a boy called ‘X’ in his car who came back having possibly been abused.”
The investigation established that whilst undertaking an eighty mile sponsored walk from London to Eastbourne, Jimmy Savile stopped at Sevenoaks School for a brief rest on the afternoon of Monday 24 April 1978. That was the only occasion on which Jimmy Savile visited the School. He did not enter any School building.
The investigation identified, located and then contacted ‘X’, the person referred to by the informant as the alleged victim. ‘X’ responded immediately giving his recollection of the visit by Jimmy Savile. He concluded his reply by saying that “nothing inappropriate happened or could possibly have happened” during the visit by Jimmy Savile.
After this was put to the informant, he readily and immediately withdrew the identification of ‘X’ as the alleged victim, but then indicated that the alleged victim must have been one of the other boarders. He did not know which. Further interviews corroborated ‘X’’s account in all relevant respects.
The investigation therefore concluded that the suggestion made by the informant that ‘X’ might have been abused was unfounded, and that there was no evidence to show that any other pupil was the victim of abuse by Jimmy Savile.
St Leonard’s Children’s Homes, Tower Hamlets – the media version:
Five London councils were today told to investigate claims that sex predator Jimmy Savile targeted children’s homes in their boroughs.
Evening Standard (accompanied by obligatory pic of Savile aged 84¾)
Steve Liddicott, the Interim Head of Children’s Social Care Services to investigate:
G had complained that, in 1976 or 1977, whilst he was a resident at St Leonards, he had been taken to the BBC Television Theatre in Shepherd’s Bush, London to watch a recording of the programme “Jim’ll Fix It”, hosted by Savile. He alleged that Savile invited him into his dressing room and sexually assaulted him.
Looks promising – at least he had the right venue for Jim’ll Fix It….
Arghhh….
He did not wish to be interviewed further about this matter. It would appear that he wanted this incident to be placed on record as further evidence of the abuse perpetrated by Savile.
A review of Mr G’s records, files pertaining to St Leonards and police files in relation to the investigation of allegations of abuse that occurred at St Leonards did not reveal any link between the children’s home and Savile.
The records did show that St Leonards Children’s Home would arrange for the hire of a minibus and driver from time to time to take young people on outings. However, there was no record of a trip to a recording of “Jim’ll Fix It”, the BBC television Theatre or Shepherd’s Bush in the 1970s.
However, there was another separate investigation into abuse at St Leonards and the police investigation into concluded that Mr G was a victim of abuse. We do not know whether this was sexual in nature.
The Dame Janet Smith Review team at the BBC were asked if they had any information that would provide evidence of a link between Jimmy Savile and/or “Jim’ll Fix It” and/or St Leonards Children’s Home and/or Tower Hamlets; they couldn’t.
Last but not least:
The Hollie’s Children’s Homes – the media version:
“Hollies Children’s Home residents asked to call Savile helpline with claims of abuse“.
Andy Quin and a ‘steering group’ waited with baited breath – what horrors would unfold, in addition to the original allegation, which was?
That ‘X’ had made an allegation of abuse whilst at The Hollies – but this did not involve Savile.
As a result of a request to the press to urge former children to ‘come forward’, ‘A’ alleged that when at the Hollies, he came across Savile in the grounds of the home. He says he was taken by Savile to a flat in the local area and then sexually assaulted by him before being returned to the children’s home. “A” says that prior to this incident he experienced sexual assaults from an employee at the Hollies. He also says that in the period following the abuse by Savile he was sexually exploited by a Southwark Council Social Worker. All his allegations – those against Savile and those against the other two individuals – were pursued by thePolice.
There is no information in the available documents that support “A”’s account of abuse by Savile. Given the size of the establishment, and its openness to use by community groups in the 1960s, it would not have been difficult for members of the public to enter the grounds as “A” claims Savile did. “A” has been interviewed but no other person has come forward as a victim or witness who might support “A”’s claims. The adults “A” names as witnesses to these events are dead. He was subsequently advised by the Police that due to the fact that all three alleged perpetrators are deceased there would be no further action by way of a criminal investigation.
There are another three reports that I haven’t yet read – two contain allegations which do not refer to Savile at all, and the third is on hold due to ‘a police investigation’.
What can I say? I have diligently gone through all the reports of Schools and Children’s Homes, and have either found that there is no trace of the allegator ever having been in that home, or no trace of Savile ever having been in the area – or there was no allegation in the first place, merely a report that he had found time to open a fete…surely Peter Spindler would have based his ‘most prolific paedophile’ on some more substantial evidence than this? Wouldn’t he?
- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 9:33 am -
I have been looking into the over-arching Oversight into the NHS reports. You, and your readers may find the informatin useful in order to grasp how it can be that all of these reports seem empty of any actual evidence of any actual event that could be construed as paedophilia and yet have all been pursued in the same manner. Finding nothing but reporting everything.
“What is most remarkable about all of this is that we know now, and indeed knew then, that the police were not investigating any of these allegations. It had been decided that since Jimmy Savile was dead, it would be a disproportionate response to those claiming victimhood to challenge their stories at all at judicial level, because this would intrinsically suggest to those victims that they were not being believed. Thus it seems that a politically correct police force was bombarding the NHS with completely uninvestigated claims that inevitably then led to an increasing commitment by the NHS to investigate.”
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/swallowing-fruit-of-yewtree.html - Duncan Disorderly
March 4, 2015 at 10:13 am -
Funnily enough, Moor covered a story of a blind girl making a complaint a couple of years ago, here:
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/blind-justice.htmlThe same one?
- Chris
March 4, 2015 at 10:32 am -
Once again, thank you.
Even if ‘The World Won’t Listen’ this is at least now ‘out there’ in black & white, and these expensive reports into The Emperor’s New Clothes all make sense now we see politicians electioneering “Vote for us and we’ll ensure all teachers, care workers, nurses, socials workers… in fact just about everybody can be locked up for not reporting a rumour they might never have heard” - acousticvillage
March 4, 2015 at 11:13 am -
The Little Ride report states at the end:
“In conclusion, there is no evidence to corroborate the allegations made by XX. Therefore the investigation lead is not able to reach a conclusion as to whether JS abused XX or not”Surely this sums up the culture and sinister change to the way we perceive justice and truth.
The sentence does NOT state “In conclusion, there is no evidence to corroborate the allegations made by XX. Therefore the investigation lead has concluded that the allegations are unsubstantiated”.This – “we don’t therefore know whether he did it or not” was firstly NOT the remit of the investigation – it wasn’t set up to establish that he did NOT abuse people – and secondly, it does not allow for a conclusion on the grounds of reasonable proof or probability. Therefore, the accused can always be treated as guilty regardless of the findings.
- Misa
March 4, 2015 at 11:14 am -
Sir Anthony Joliffe, Chair of the SMH Trust from 1994 was trying to make some changes and was faced with Jim threatening to block any plan by mobilising the patients and getting the Sun newspaper down to cover cover the demonstration. (SMH report 9.139)
Sir Anthony is obviously a pretty tough character as he was right back at Jimmy, ‘Well, Jimmy, if you do that, I shall do an interview with the press and tell them that you’re parking your Rolls Royce here, using the facilities of the hospital to have the car serviced, you’re having it cleaned by the hospital staff.”
Jim must have been quaking. If only Sir Anthony could have said, “I’ll tell the press you’ve been touching up nurses/molesting patients/raping children…”
- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 11:50 am -
- Misa
March 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm -
With a CV like that, you’d have thought he might have been able to do a bit better than threaten to expose Savile’s car cleaning arrangements.
- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 12:16 pm -
You’d have thought they could all have done a bit better, if there was any truth to any of it.
“Ms Lampard’s Board Chair at NHS South of England, Dr Geoffrey Harris was until 2003, a Non-Executive Director of Stoke Mandeville.”
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/kismet-kate.html- Misa
March 4, 2015 at 12:48 pm -
Moor, did you see my comment on Anna’s previous post? It looks like there was a very serious problem about who actually owned the NSIC – this dispute ran from early 1993, when SMH was preparing to become an NHS Trust, right through to 2000. It looks as though Jim never accepted that the NSIC belonged to the NHS Trust, and all the trust could do was to get an ‘opinion’ from a QC, to assure them that they did indeed hold title.
- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 12:49 pm -
I did, and I have no doubt the lady upstairs did too. Great work by you. Who’da thought it?…
- Misa
March 4, 2015 at 12:55 pm -
Great. It would be interesting to get the opinion of someone who knows about, say, property law…don’t you reckon?
- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 12:57 pm -
Well, bugger me.
“A barrister by training, Kate worked for 12 years in chambers specialising in company law, insolvency trusts and property law.”
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/kismet-kate.html
- Moor Larkin
- Misa
- Ho Hum
March 4, 2015 at 1:33 pm -
This is not an issue that would be worth wasting any time on. Merely a distraction. Better to stick to the main matters
- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm -
It seems the loathsome Dan Davies was touching on this in the Torygraph the other day.
“If The National Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville was Savile’s crowning achievement, he latterly spoke of it with a lack of warmth. On more than one occasion in the years I spent interviewing him, he talked about ownership rather than pride when conversation turned to the buildings that had risen to replace the wartime wooden huts where the Paralympic Movement was born. “Stoke Mandeville know that the money I make, if I chose, could go elsewhere,” he said in 2008, bragging about the importance to the hospital of the ongoing financial input from the Jimmy Savile Stoke Mandeville Trust, one of two charitable trusts that bore his name. “It’s the steel fist in the velvet glove.” The themes of today’s report on Stoke Mandeville are sickeningly familiar to anyone who has taken the time to trawl through the hundreds of pages already published on Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor, the two other hospitals Savile was most closely associated with. The same can be said for conclusions, or lack of them, and the curious coincidence that senior staff were not made aware of what Savile was up to.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/11437966/The-great-dictator-Inside-the-mind-of-Jimmy-Savile.html
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- Misa
- Moor Larkin
- Misa
- Moor Larkin
- macheath
March 4, 2015 at 11:15 am -
No need to ask if the pills are working – or is it the return to abundant supplies of British tea?
Anyway, I salute your intellectual stamina – and your compassion: ‘You can only feel sorrow for the unhappy man ‘XX’ has become.’ The very nature of the allegations means that a number of supposed witnesses and victims may not be in robust mental health and some, at least, will surely suffer further as a result of the enquiry process and the media coverage, whatever the truth of the matter.
One major problem with the media is the blurring of fact and fiction that gives us fly-on-the-wall A&E coverage on one channel and ‘Casualty’ on the other; journalists are catering for a public who, whether in fiction or ‘fact’, demand a clear narrative and a suitable denouement along with plenty of vicarious thrills and spills. To subject allegations to thorough scrutiny is to deny the audience its entertainment and risk the displeasure of a mob which has, for years, lapped up innumerable best-selling books depicting experiences of childhood abuse.
It is, perhaps, summed up by an American viewer who. when an Oprah interviewee’s graphic misery memoir was revealed as a complete fabrication, commented: “The fact squad; these people make me sick!”
- JimmyGiro
March 4, 2015 at 11:36 am -
‘Corroboration By Volume’
As has been mentioned by others, this I believe is the heart of the State’s crime against truth, and justice for all. It is the essence of witch hunts, and ‘counter revolutionary’ pogroms; and since people are a social animal, it is guaranteed to succeed… for a while.
In the physical sciences, there are two common types of experimental error: random; and systematic. Random errors are addressed in situ, by statistical analysis of all the data; but systematic errors are a problem of the experiment itself, systematic errors in the physical sciences are usually resolved through what is called ‘meta-analysis’, in which the results from different experimental protocols, and different experimenters, are collated and treated as ‘random’ errors. Thus in the physical sciences, ‘corroboration by volume’ has a legitimate use, so long as the ‘system’ is seen to be varied, and not merely duplicated in self fulfilling tautology, as in ‘the madness of crowds’.
As things stand in the current State sponsored witch hunt, the principle of group think has to be dismantled by treating the credibility of each ‘witness / victim’ as a unique data point, rather than as part of one huge data point.
In individual crime cases, for example, Polygraph analysis of witness statements may or may not be reliable, owing to certain individuals not having ‘typical’ physiological responses compared to the ‘average’ bod. But in cases such as Yewtree, there are so many ‘witness / victim’ data points, ‘statements’, that the average Polygraph result can, and should, be used to establish the truth; as a grand meta-analysis of this State sponsored cluster fuck.
- The Blocked Dwarf
March 4, 2015 at 4:52 pm -
“that the average Polygraph result can, and should, be used to establish the truth”
Possibly but I’m pretty sure that a *majority* of the VICTIMS were abused by someone and they have, for whatever reasons, acquired ‘false’ memories/projected that it was JS who abused them. I’ve said before that I am certain I could have passed a polygraph on my own false memories even AFTER they were proven to have been false.
- JimmyGiro
March 4, 2015 at 7:15 pm -
Presumably, mass acquired memories might show up by cross linking, in that they would reflect the same source and expose themselves as duplicates.
I recall there was a spate of Hollywood luvvies, who after ‘therapy’, became convinced that their nearest and dearest had abused them. The scam became exposed simply by referring back to the therapists:
- JimmyGiro
- The Blocked Dwarf
- binao
March 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm -
Returning to the living, & putting aside his comments about JS, see Paul Gambaccini’s statement to the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee re ‘Witch hunt’.
Does he have a point?- Moor Larkin
March 4, 2015 at 2:36 pm -
Only if it’s a gay one according to big Dave.
- Ho Hum
March 4, 2015 at 2:46 pm -
Maybe someone in the CPS thought that the risk of having him convicted one day, and getting his officially sanctioned pardon the next, might not be on the public interest? Tchhooring, tchhooring!
- Chris
March 4, 2015 at 6:16 pm -
I’ve every sympathy with Gambo now but although he was suspended from Radio 2 without pay for a year, he didn’t see himself completely wiped from the map. BBC Four were instructed to remove all trace of DLT from any clips shows and documentaries, not to mention the ongoing ‘mothballing’ of his editions of TOTP – that did not happen to Paul Gambaccini who still cropped up on the channel from time to time. It was if there one rule for a hairy former Radio 1 DJ, and another rule for the self-style ‘Professor of Pop’ caught up in the Yewtree net.
- Newmark
March 4, 2015 at 11:07 pm -
“It was if there one rule for a hairy former Radio 1 DJ, and another rule for the self-style ‘Professor of Pop’ …”
The difference is that DLT was convicted, whereas Gambaccini wasn’t even charged.
- Chris
March 5, 2015 at 9:55 am -
No – DLT’s censure happened the minute he was arrested; in fact his original arrest was timed to coincidence with a (pulled) BC Four repeat of his Top Of The Pops of 20th October 1977. And that is a matter of indisputable fact.
It was if, internally at the BBC, the intention was always to make DLT a scapegoat. And we know by his solitary dubious conviction brought about by BBC internal politics (Mr & Mrs Dinah Rose QC) that to also be indisputable fact. - Mr Wray
March 8, 2015 at 7:47 pm -
Another difference is the DLT caused a furore when he was ‘sacked’ by the BBC from Radio 1 for being ‘too old’ . The BBC is unforgiving of those who expose their shortcomings …
- Chris
- Newmark
- Chris
- Ho Hum
- Moor Larkin
- L1sb0eta
March 4, 2015 at 8:02 pm -
Dear Anna, I am in total awe of your bloody-minded tenacity. (And Moor’s, too.) There is nowhere else that we can read a forensic dissection of the truth about JS’s supposed abuse of an entire nation — well, maybe I exaggerated slightly there.
I had directed a friend to this site: her job involves child protection, albeit at the theoretical rather than the practical level. She attended a seminar just over a month ago which, as I understood it, included discussion of the Raccoon archives? One of the speakers was Barbara Hewson, who patently did not impress. I was also told that categorising the Savile etc. accusations as a moral panic was “unhelpful to genuine survivors”. Aforesaid friend is, otherwise, the nicest person one could wish to know. But, not surprisingly, we no longer discuss that topic.
Anyway, I will continue to keep myself apprised of the truth via your (and Moor’s) future posts.
- Carol42
March 4, 2015 at 8:33 pm -
We have a new class of the disappeared, reminds me of the old Soviet Union where those out of favour or killed were simply airbrushed out of the pictures and history. From what I read there is absolutely no evidence at all against JS but the public will generally just read the headlines.
- IlovetheBBC
March 4, 2015 at 10:01 pm -
On another, but related, subject – twitter is twitchy over rumours that Panorama is to air a programme which will do a ‘hatchet job’ on the Elm Guest House rumours/allegations.
Could get interesting.- Peter Raite
March 5, 2015 at 10:55 am -
And right on cue, Operation Midland ramps it up:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31744282
Funny that the prosecution of Harvey Proctor back-in-the-day only involved allegations regards 17-21 year olds – illegal then, but legal now. If it didn’t turn up any under-16s then, why is he back in the frame now?
- Peter Raite
March 5, 2015 at 10:58 am -
A telling quote from Proctor himself about claims of historic abuse in general:
“I believe that the number of victims grows by the day.
“The number of alleged perpetrators through death diminishes. That is a problem.
“It is certainly a problem for me. I suppose my problem is that I’m still very much alive.
“I am sure some of the allegations are true but I’m also sure a lot of the allegations are pure and utter fantasy.”
- Bandini
March 5, 2015 at 12:49 pm -
Proctor appeared on the ‘After Dark’ programme in 1998 & after his conviction, in a live & uncensored debate with the ‘cream of Fleet Street’. I watched it a few months back, initially put off by its length (over 2 & a half hours) I was transfixed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpyel-EEd1A
If he was guilty of any of the allegations now being made he was certainly taking a gamble going head-to-head with those who had – according to him – already destroyed his career. The moment when he serendipitously finds himself with a newspaper-cutting in his hands, a completely fabricated story, and its writer is there before him, is priceless. (Said journalist claims on camera to have his roll-up dungeon or something in her own house! Let’s hope Op Midland are on it!).
None of the journalists really come out of it well; the only really human one amongst them Nina Myskow! Well worth a watch.
- Bandini
March 5, 2015 at 12:53 pm -
[In 1988, not 1998 as stated above.]
- Peter Raite
March 5, 2015 at 12:58 pm -
I think I saw that one at the time, or at least soon afterwards – I usually started recording the programme when it began, and left the tape running, just in case I couldn’t stay awake for the whole thing. Sadly, unlike many programme I recorded back then, I didn’t bother keeping any of them.
It does, though, raise the question as to why any accusations emerging now can be given any credence whatsoever. After Proctor pleaded guilty, it should have resulted in an avalanche of accusations, were the snow there in the first place.
- Bandini
March 5, 2015 at 1:11 pm -
Well, given the wonders of the internet I was able to watch the entire episode during daylight hours. Even so, the incredibly ditzy Christine Keeler almost had me nodding off.
I certainly watched the programme all those years ago, but I don’t remember having seen this one before. Peter Hillmore from The Observer seems to flag a bit but later gets a second wind… don’t know what they were knocking back, but don’t think it was water!
- Moor Larkin
March 5, 2015 at 1:30 pm -
Oliver Reed stomping about the studio like a man drunk, seemed to prove that it wasn’t, although he may have simply been liquidating previously stored reserves…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWP3vt_NhAQ - Peter Raite
March 5, 2015 at 1:32 pm -
I don’t think Channel 4 made any secret of the fact that the guests had access to as much alcohol as they wanted!
- Moor Larkin
- Ho Hum
March 5, 2015 at 1:15 pm -
Interestingly, in the comments under the Youtube video, there is one from about 7 months ago stating
‘I’ve only looked briefly, but it seems to be the only video of Harvey Proctor on the web. He has been absent from the news for a quarter of a century but may be about to return to the front pages’
Strong with Clairvoyance, that one, he is
- Bandini
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- Bandini
- Peter Raite
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- Alex
March 5, 2015 at 8:08 am -
JS’s apparent ability to have been able to carry out abuse in places he never visited on people he never met reminds me of the ending of the cartoon film “Beavis and Butt-Head do America” where the FBI are quoted as saying that agents want to interview Beavis and Butthead in connection with JFK’s assassination. When it is pointed out to the investigators that Beavis and Butt-Head were not even born at the time of JFK’s assassination a reply is given that “we know – they’re very cunning”.
- Moor Larkin
March 5, 2015 at 8:52 am -
Huhuhuheheehe……. Cool!…
- sally stevens
March 6, 2015 at 3:05 am -
And there you have it.
- Moor Larkin
- IlovetheBBC
March 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm -
Interesting – a Mirror journalist explains shy he never ‘exposed’ Savile http://linkis.com/www.thedrum.com/opin/gcQzw
- IlovetheBBC
March 8, 2015 at 6:39 pm -
And I see Nick Cohen has come out to say how simply awful it is that Merion Jones has been given the heave-ho by the BBC.
- Alexander Baron
March 21, 2015 at 12:50 am -
Not child abuse exactly, rather the other way around. Has anyone else noticed the way the soaps are pushing the feminist rape narrative? I’ve written about this but take a gander at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcW5eqmug4g
the victim comes home drunk, crashes out on the sofa, and a 14 year old who has been hearing things she doesn’t say, decides to help himself. At worse it was a minor indecent assault. She freaks out, and weeks later she is still hysterical. If a 14 year old had done that to a married woman in the 1960s, she would have boxed his ears, and dragged him by the arm to his own mother, who would have done the same.
What have we become?
- Barry
April 12, 2015 at 9:19 pm -
Re Sevenoaks School – the person who complained has a website with more details. He also has not been allowed to see the report, only the Executive Summary!!
stuartneilson.com/Articles/Sexual_Abuse/Sevenoaks.html
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