Rejoice! The End of the Witch-hunt is Nigh!
Perfidy of an ex-cop snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Matron’s stories told defy the truth,
Gropes remember’d from their youth,
Liz Dux’ ego, and Meirion’s sting,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Gall of Spindler, and slips of Yewtree
Sliver’d in BSkyB’s eclipse;
Nose of Murdoch, and Winsor’s lips;
Finger of the dead tree press,
Ditch-deliver’d by broadband,—
Make the gossip thick and slab:
Add thereto t’internet’s chaudron,
For the ingredients of our caldron.
Don’t get too excited – you’ll need to be patient, but we now have an idea how long it takes for a witch-hunt to die down – 332 years!
Next Sunday, hundreds of modern witches will gather at Rougemont Castle to call for a posthumous pardon for Temperance Lloyd, Mary Trembles and Susannah Edwards from Bideford, north Devon, who in August 1682 became the last three women in England to be hanged for witchcraft.
Mary and Susannah were arrested having been seen begging for food with Temperance in Bideford. At their trial a month later all three women made no attempt to deny witchcraft.
Under the law as it stood there was no onus on the prosecution to prove the case against them – it was for the women to prove their innocence.
Apparently, the women were convicted on hearsay evidence, which included one of them being accused of turning into a magpie. Even the Assizes Justices at the time did not believe they were guilty but were forced to respond to an angry mob that was baying for a hanging. The mob got its way.
Jackie Juno, a modern day witch, said: “By getting them pardoned we are making a statement that humanity could change for the better. It would also be laying the women to rest in a way that resolves the mistakes of history.”
Some of the comments under the local paper coverage of this event are interesting:
“But 300 years ago it was considered a real crime. Beliefs change. Laws change. We cannot judge what happened 300 years ago by the standards of today.”
and:
“What a waste of time. They were found guilty of a crime over 300 years ago, and sentenced as seem fit at the time. No new evidence has come to light, so there is no reason to pardon them. Whatever next – the pardoning of all the criminals sent to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread?”
How curious – the same sort of people who comment on local newspapers are as sure that there is no argument in favour of ‘historic pardons’ as they are in favour of ‘historic convictions’. Courts convicting people on hearsay evidence without proof – for fear of the baying mob getting out of control? Judging what happened in the past by the standards of today?
For more information, email jackiejuno@yahoo.co.uk.
- Alexander Baron
August 29, 2014 at 11:35 am -
That doggerel is terrible. Learn how to scan.
- Frankie
August 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm -
Yeah, and while you are about it, cast your eye over a tome on English Grammar. “…That doggerel is terrible.” Illiterate moron.
- Frankie
- GildasTheMonk
August 29, 2014 at 12:17 pm -
Meanwhile, back on Planet Sane….
The mob is as powerful now as it was then, although it expresses itself in different ways.
The “system” is pliable at the hands of the mob and as fallible now as it was then, although the mechanisms may be different.
New world, same propensities
G the M- JimmyGiro
August 29, 2014 at 3:28 pm -
No, it’s the other way round. Power is to manipulate the mob, and the State does this by driving the fashionable mind set… as in ‘Planet Sane’ etc. So all sides are apt to try and own the narrative by fashion.
This is why feminism is allowed so much leeway, to the point of anti-democracy. Why argue ‘policy for election’ when it’s simpler to control the most ‘fashionable’ gender, then bulldoze through thousands of new laws via popularity of the pretty oppressed, as displayed by mums.net.
As the clergy, and various other religious groups, controlled the moral narrative of old, so feminists have become the clergy of today; with one striking difference: The religious cults had churches, and unchanging religious texts; but the feminists have no headquarters as such, and their ethical standpoints are as fixed as the current ‘wave’ of feminism they are told to follow at that time.
So ask yourself who controls feminism? Clearly it is not women, they have nowhere to place their vote, therefore it must be the State itself that writes the feminist narrative, and therefore the narrative of the ‘new Democracy’, the control of the mob. And because their is no fixed ‘north star’ of feminism, it is the radicals dream ticket of the ultimate totalitarian State.
- JimmyGiro
- Robert the Biker
August 29, 2014 at 12:20 pm -
So, why are we pandering to ‘witches’ now? The comments, like them or not, are perfectly correct; they pled guilty to a crime and were sentenced under the laws of the time. Do we now pardon everyone hanged in this country, on the basis we no longer do it?
Forget about it and move on, or does Jackie Juno have some sort of agenda here. I have also often wondered how much these ‘witches’ battened on to the fear of neighbours to improve their own lives, and it was only when before the judge that they became poor and helpless again; pardon my cynicism I’m sure.- Moor Larkin
August 29, 2014 at 12:25 pm -
Interesting point insofar as the recent urge to pardon post-mortem has emerged at the same moment that the chatterers now want to convict dead people in a court of quasi-law. It’s all part of the same conceit I guess.
- Robert the Biker
August 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm -
Wasn’t it only about that time (seventeenth century) that you could no longer sue a dead person in court? I know it could be done in late medieval times.
- Rightwinggit
August 29, 2014 at 3:25 pm -
Peasant: “She turned me into a newt!”
(Crowd looks at him)
Peasant: “I got better.”
- Ho Hum
August 29, 2014 at 4:43 pm -
The crowd: Please God, she do it again..
- Furor Teutonicus
August 29, 2014 at 6:26 pm -
“She was dyslexic, and her spelling turned me into a Grof!”
- Matt Wardman
August 30, 2014 at 7:03 am -
It was the Grof that carried her off
It was the Boffin they punished for Groffin…
- Matt Wardman
- Engineer
August 29, 2014 at 9:59 pm -
Voice from crowd, “But you be as a newt most Saturday nights…”
- Ho Hum
- Rightwinggit
- Robert the Biker
- JuliaM
August 29, 2014 at 3:29 pm -
I’m in full agreement with RtB.
These ‘historic pardons’ are yet more dancing to the tune of political corectness & being nice to minorities that got us into the Rotherham mess.
- Moor Larkin
- Furor Teutonicus
August 29, 2014 at 12:26 pm -
XX Whatever next – the pardoning of all the criminals sent to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread?”XX
?? IIRC, did not one of either Blurr “The truth, or Incapability Brown, actualy DO that?
- Ed P
August 29, 2014 at 12:32 pm -
Is a chaudron a French cauldron/kettle?
- Gil
August 29, 2014 at 12:33 pm -
Brilliant poem! The similarities with the witch hunts of the past are very interesting. We always seem to think we’re so much more advanced than people from past centuries. It’s clearly true with things like medicine and drains, but put us in a room with people from back then and it looks as if some would still find plenty to agree on! Perhaps there might even be some from back then who would tell us to get real. I was watching this recently (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4HWIbGttMg) and wondering to what extent the author of the Malleus Maleficarum was prompted by religious fervour or more base instincts and what the modern equivalent might be.
- Ms Mildred
August 29, 2014 at 12:37 pm -
Strange coincidence…Just reading a Kindle book on the Earl of Rochester’s activities in and out of the restoration court of King Charles second. I was struck by the similarity of then to now. The marked lowering of morals underlining the hypocracy of our modern concerns, fostering all the isms festering around us. As though the public have to be suppressed and controlled, as the church then controlled peoples lives. One word or perceived action against certain groups and you are damned to lose your job, or means of living, pilloried in the MSM, or house searched and possibly arrested at dawn! Restoration society stood by while Titus Oates spun his web of lies about The Popish Plot, and five Catholic lords arrested and to The Tower. Riots happened, lives were taken, until a perceptive judge outed Oates as a scheming liar and manipulator. He was pilloried and whipped to Newgate and deprived of house and pension….a lovely fitting punishment for all the years of trouble he caused. Your poetry is OK Anna, but not nearly as good as Rochester’s utterly naughty poetry. He wallows in popular four letter words! How little we have learned in so much believing of liars and spin doctors for so many years. Even 2 silly wars with The Dutch to liken to our 2 silly wars enabled by Blair.
- EyesWideShut
August 29, 2014 at 10:45 pm -
Any person who has read Rochester is a friend of mine.
I’ve quoted the Catholic Plot to many people on here. Most folk have no idea. It isn’t taught at GCSE. “Horrid Histories” doesn’t include it – so no one knows what a big deal it was at the time. Bigger than JS – it was regime-threatening. Could have brought Charles II down. The present paedo-flap is nowhere near as significant. For that relief, much thanks.
- EyesWideShut
- Opus
August 29, 2014 at 1:29 pm -
It often strikes me that we are as biased and gullible as our mediaeval ancestors. Science and technology give us the illusion that we are enlightened and now not far from the fabled island of Utopia, yet that seems to me to be delusional. I won’t give any examples for were I to do so there would doubtless be readers here keen to hang me for crimes against present beliefs. The general attacks on the Christian religion do not, so it seems to me, create greater reason, but merely far more dangerous and sillier beliefs and held with tenacious enthusiasm that would not shame a grand inquisitor.
I am sorry to hear of the fate of the three women from Devon, (especially as my paternal grandmother came from Plymouth) but note, even though they clearly did not have the powers claimed of them by the state, they, all – like many a defendant since – confessed to the allegations of their accusers.
My own view is that the present witch-hunt began to arise when it no longer became acceptable to bait – the now lauded – Homosexuals. Haters gotta hate.
- Moor Larkin
August 29, 2014 at 1:41 pm -
@Opus
I’m not sure it was ever “acceptable” to bait them, unless you were a duly appointed officer of the law on cottaging duties. I think the current mania stems more from when it became illegal to bait them. I laughed uproariously when just the week or so after the Great Manchester Police announced imperiously that dissing EmoO’s and Goths was now a crime, the Ian Watkins matter burst upon the gawping masses. There’s nothing so funny as the law braying like an ass. - Mr Wray
September 2, 2014 at 3:12 pm -
they, all – like many a defendant since – confessed to the allegations of their accusers.
Confessed? So they were one of ; mentally deficient, tripping, liars or tortured? How does one convict on a confession of a deed that is improbable if not down right impossible?
- Moor Larkin
- EyesWideShut
August 29, 2014 at 3:11 pm -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Osborne_(alleged_witch)
This poor creature was the last person to be drowned as a witch in England – 1751, Tring, Herts. Wiki gives the basic details. A direct ancestor of mine was the village constable, a part-time occupation at the period. He was summoned by the Parish Council from his day-job, that of blacksmith, to disperse the mob, who were attempting to sack the workhouse where Ruth had been placed for her own safety. He waved his hammer at them, yelling “Go home – there be no such thing as witches.” In saying this, he was actually in conformity with what was by then mainstream thinking, in the Church of England, Parliament and among educated opinion-makers, so nothing earth-shattering there. The Witchcraft Act 1735 treated belief in witchcraft, not its supposed practise, as an offence, on the grounds that it was a superstitious delusion. The Act made it a crime to claim that any person was acting as a witch or had magical powers.
The mob looked like they were about to listen to this, till the chief rabble-rouser responded with “Pay no mind. It is only old ***** “. (Something I have heard on more than one occasion, too). My ancestor was over-powered and locked in the Church vestry, along with the Vicar, who had made similar pleas.
Shortly afterwards there was a full-scale Parlimentary enquiry into events, at which my ancestor and others gave evidence. Unsurprisingly none of the locals would admit to having been involved and blamed it all in “in-comers” from the countryside and neighbouring villages. One man was hanged
- never60
August 29, 2014 at 4:26 pm -
at least SOMEONE was made to suffer. as things are going on in Rotherham, no-one will suffer. oh yes, maybe a couple of resignations, but no real suffering that is on a par with that of the victims of the abuse. so maybe we are becoming less and less civilised with each passing year.
respect to your ancestor, though. it takes a lot of guts to stand up before your fellow villagers and contradict them when their blood is up.- EyesWideShut
August 29, 2014 at 5:22 pm -
Thanks, never60. His 15 year old son also came charging out of the forge, ready to help his Dad.
They were good men, both of them.
- EyesWideShut
- never60
- Bill Sticker
August 29, 2014 at 4:17 pm -
Nice bowdlerised chant from the Scottish play, Anna.
I’m wondering when MWT and cohorts will find themselves on the receiving end of a massive defamation suit to which the ‘Public Interest’ defence will not be applicable.
Alternatively if Dante is to be believed, there’s a specific bolgia in Hell for panderers. Happy thoughts.
- Jonathan Mason
August 29, 2014 at 6:05 pm -
Will the descendants of these pardoned witches now be suing the royal family for compensatory damages, with interest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvUU44SmjnA
- Ted Treen
September 3, 2014 at 8:03 pm -
If they do, then I’m suing the Italian government for all the unspeakable horrors visited upon my ancestors by those beastly Romans.
I’m not greedy – £10,000 should be sufficient.
Of course, it will be compounded at 5% per annum since 410AD, when the Romans finally buggered off.
- Ted Treen
- EyesWideShut
August 29, 2014 at 9:21 pm -
http://www.nutshell-videos.ed.ac.uk/mark-smith-now-then-now-then/
Bravo, Anna.
Or as the kids say nowadays, “You go, girl, GO!”
- sally stevens
August 30, 2014 at 1:51 am -
One of my ancestors – Speaker of the Short Parliament – went to the Tower after informing Charles I that he couldn’t just chuck anyone in prison without due process, i.e. habeas corpus vs. the divine right of Kings. Ultimately, Charles had his head removed. I think this is one of the reasons I find all this witch-hunting, finger pointing and finding someone guilty without due process so distasteful. I suppose we could call it the divine right of ‘victims.’
{ 46 comments… read them below or add one }