Rigging the Deck or Kebabing Keir?
I’m not sure if the departure of a Baroness from the crap table of UK Jurisprudence the other day was expected or not. Given my own recent mutterings about the happenstance of a judge asked to conduct a BBC Inquiry into the actions of a dead man also being the same judge who had found a dead doctor guilty of 400 murders after the doctor was dead, left me none too qualified to pontificate on behalf of another Establishment Grandee.
Someone else much better qualified has pontificated on the subject however. He is Peter Garsden, an eminent civil lawyer.
It was Peter’s conclusion and suggestion of an Alternative Inquiry Leader that really caught my attention however.
It caught my attention especially because of another news-story that was cultivated by the departure of Butler-Sloss.
The brother of a retired judge who quit her post as chair of an inquiry into historic sex abuse tried to limit an official investigation into Kincora Boys’ Home, it has been revealed.
Now, I am no expert on the Kincora Scandal, although it has been bubbling away like a good Irish Stew since the 1980’s. The thing is that you don’t need to be an expert to join a few dots these days, because the Internet has a way of doing it for you. All you have to do is to see if the dots can be lined into make a pattern that actually might mean something more than a pretty pattern. So, here’s my house of cards.
“The Troubles” in Northern Ireland between 1968 and 1998 have left more than one historical problem. One of them arose in 1980, and that involved allegations of sexual abuse. Kincora has remained a minor media cause-celebre ever since, potentially invoking members of the British Establishment, just as many other sexual abuse allegations have done since 2012, and the emergence of the Jimmy Savile allegations and the activities of the Metropolitan Police in Operation Yewtree.
But there are many more serious Historical Allegations about Murder in Northern Ireland, and they involve a different Operation. It was called Operation Rapid:
In February 2007, the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) began Operation Rapid, the operational name for a review of people regarded as “wanted” in connection with terrorist-related offences before the Good Friday Agreement. The review examined what basis, if any, the PSNI had to seek the arrest of individuals identified by Sinn Féin to the government and passed to the chief constable. The then secretary of state, Peter Hain wanted the scheme to be run in secret. The PSNI had prepared a statement for journalists, should the scheme get into the public domain, but the work was never disclosed.
However, whilst Operation Rapid did not begin until 2007, the problem had been fermenting for six years before that.
In May 2000, Prime Minister Tony Blair told Sinn Féin President Gerry Adams that if he provided details of those on the run, these would be examined by the attorney general in consultation with the police and the director of public prosecutions, “with a view to giving a response within a month if at all possible”… Senior legal figures were not happy with the approach. The attorney general wrote to Northern Ireland Secretary Peter Mandelson saying he was:
“Seriously concerned” that the scheme could severely undermine confidence in the criminal justice system… Mandelson’s successor John Reid was also warned by the attorney general in 2002 that it could not become an amnesty and every case would have to be dealt with on the merits of the evidence.
This whole conundrum of men believed to be murderers NOT being prosecuted became a bargaining chip in the efforts to persuade the IRA to finally ‘decommission’ their weapons. The weapons have been decommissioned and, it seems, men suspected of murder were agreed to not be prosecuted. In the full sweep of history this might be viewed as a worthy Faustian Pact to make. After all, what price the lives of the future children of Ulster? Perhaps enough blood had been spilled and enough lives wasted in prisons. I’m no more qualified to pontificate on the merits of these decisions than anyone else in my position.
However, there is so much Pontificating going on these days in England and much of the greatest Pontificating seems to have been performed by the recently ex-leader of the CPS in England & Wales who created the current Moral Panic about believing “Victims” and a determination that no crime goes unpunished, no matter how many years have passed.
That man is Keir Starmer. But guess what?
From 2003-2008, Keir was the human rights advisor to the Policing Board in Northern Ireland and worked with the Policing Board to ensure that the Police Service of Northern Ireland fully complied with its obligations under the Human Rights Act 1998.
This same man must have known all about the secret deals going on between the British Government and the leaders of the IRA and Sinn Fein – mustn’t he?
The board’s representatives completed a study on how the service was coping with integrating the 1998 Human Rights Act. Police compliance has been strengthened by an internal Code of Ethics introduced as part of attempts to reform the force, they found. A framework for checking police performance was developed and published by Mr Starmer and Ms Gordon in December 2003.
Now, the outsider might take a look at my line of dots and remark that whilst a prima-facie case exists that Keir Starmer was privy to possible murderers not being prosecuted, and victims and their families seeing no justice was to be done, might exist… it seems quite likely that as a mere “Human Rights Advisor” he would not have been privy to really secret stuff. Well, that is not his version of events is all I can say,
In 2002, I became Queen’s Counsel.At that stage, I branched out and became the human rights advisor to the Policing Board in Northern Ireland. My job was to monitor whether the newly formed Police Service of Northern Ireland (replacing the RUC) complied with the Human Rights Act. I attended operations on the ground, had access to all documents and published my findings.
In such a position, can we really believe that he would not have known anything about the deals going on. Not a whisper? Not a suspicion even? For ten years nearly. He must have known about Operation Rapid – a formal police operation that began in Starmer’s final year of involvement with the PSNI, and one which must have had huge implications associated with “Human Rights”. All of this becomes especially moot when you consider that this man also is insisting that other people be prosecuted simply for what he claims they know.
Keir Starmer, the former director of public prosecutions, has told a BBC programme that teachers and other professionals who do not report child abuse suspicions should face prosecution. Mr Starmer has told an edition of the BBC programme Panorama that a British “mandatory reporting” law, could lead to those who offended being sent to jail.
So, when Peter Garsden was recommending this man as his choice for revealing all about Historical Crimes, did he actually know who he was talking about? Or was the choice merely such an obviously advantageous one, that it was irresistible.
The machinations of the law are indeed a marvel to behold though because look what we now find to be the case in 2014:
It is understood the investigations which Dr Maguire contends are being frustrated include the UVF murders of six people who were watching the Ireland versus Italy World Cup game at the Heights Bar in Loughinisland in 1994 and the IRA murder of RUC constable Colleen McMurray in Newry, Co Down, in 1992. Dr Maguire is being represented by the former director of prosecutions for England and Wales, Keir Starmer QC.
One thing seems for sure in the UK of the 21st century.
Hypocrisy only seems to apply to Us, not those who sit in judgement upon us.
Moor Larkin
- The OSC
July 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm -
- Ian B
July 18, 2014 at 2:15 pm -
If Starmer is appointed, any chance of a genuine inquiry is dead in the water. The man’s an activist with a strong political and ideological agenda. Frankly the last person you would want to appoint to any position of authority requiring neutrality.
- JuliaM
July 18, 2014 at 4:22 pm -
And yet he’s ‘well-balanced’, apparently.
I suppose that must mean an identity-politics chip on both shoulders!
- JuliaM
- Fat Steve
July 18, 2014 at 3:28 pm -
I’m not sure if the departure of a Baroness from the crap table of UK Jurisprudence —Gosh Gildas prose worthy of the uber Racoon
- Duncan Disorderly
July 18, 2014 at 3:29 pm -
Wouldn’t surprise me at all that a ‘human rights advisor’ knew nothing of any importance on any matter. The job just sounds like a Very Important Position for checking i’s get dotted and t’s get crossed operationally.
- Moor Larkin
July 18, 2014 at 7:56 pm -
I have to say that charitably I agreed with that assessment until I read his own website saying he had full access to all documents. In terms of the general theme of Hypocrisy as opposed to something worse, I left this item out for fear I might seem a little too keen to see “the dark side”. This was in relation to the Hacking Scandal:
“I am acutely conscious of the difficulties and risks inherent in piecing together a history of the legal advice given by the CPS to the Metropolitan Police nearly five years ago based on documents created by, and recollections of, others.”
https://www.cps.gov.uk/news/latest_news/dpp_letter_to_the_culture_media_and_sport_committee_1_april_2011/Acute risks after five years about the copper, but happy to bang ordinary folk up after forty years….. Pragmatic to the core.
- Moor Larkin
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 3:49 pm -
I don’t see what is wrong with making it mandatory to report suspected child abuse. If a child is brought into an Accident and Emergency and appears to be suffering from a gunshot wound, should medical personnel not be legally bound to report this to police?
But this whole idea that a report on historical paedophilia is not a judicial process that uses a formal process of collecting and analysing evidence, but simply a product of the prejudices and personality of the person who chairs it undermines the whole objective from the get go.
You wonder what the hell is going on in the UK these days. Did Shipman REALLY murder 400 people, and is there really a conspiracy to turn Birmingham schools into terrorist training camps? Once the legal establishment exposes itself to ridicule via nonsense like the Yewtree Report, it turns us all into conspiracy theorists.
On a slightly different rant angle, a good article today on The Guardian propaganda site by one Rosie Boycott. As I suspected based on my own observations there is a massive conspiracy to make everyone fat.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/18/food-is-a-drug-and-we-have-to-learn-to-say-no
Did the Russian separatists in the Ukraine really shoot down the Malaysian plane in the hope of starting World War III, or was this a false flag operation by Ukrainian air traffic controllers in the hope of starting World War III. A curse on all their houses!
The Israelis and the Palestinians deserve each other. Just two thoroughly nasty races creating their own version of hell. The rest of the world should build a razor wire fence around the whole God-forsaken region and forget about the inmates.
- Ian B
July 18, 2014 at 4:16 pm -
The problem is that mandatory reporting forces everyone to police everyone else, and forces repsonsibility onto everyone else. And this causes problems.
I have been trying to get myself to sit down and write a proper article regarding the perils of safety, comparing historic sex roles with the current loss of liberty. Because there is something that I think people have missed, and it is important.
If you look at human sexual dimorphism, you realise obviously that on average men are big and strong, and women are small and weak. We evolved this way because it presumably led more of us to survive and reproduce than if we were physically equal. Evolution has no will. It is just what worked. Feminists talk of male oppression of women, but let us look at it another way. Why was it advantageous for women to be weak? They can’t defend themselves. What good is that?
The answer is that it did benefit them. By being unable to fight for themselves, women “contracted out” the violent part of life to men. Men were forced by circumstance to fight on behalf of women in order to preserve those women, and the children, to create the next generation. Any man who chose not to fight for the protection of his women would lose them. So men were burdened as a gender with that responsibility.
But once you are in a position of being responsibile for somebody else’s safety, and paying a price if they are injured, harmed or killed, you now have an enormous incentive to control them, in order to prevent them getting hurt. If I am going to be sent to prison if Jonathan Mason dies, I cannot afford to let Jonathan Mason do dangerous things. No mountain climbing or motorbike riding for Jonathan. Because I will pay then price if Jonathan is harmed. He can no longer say “it is up to me if I am killed mountain climbing”. Because it no longer is.
So we can see in that how “patriarchal” restrictions on women developed. Men could increase their protection of women by restricting the behaviour of women. So they did. It’s the classic safety vs. liberty conflict. And it illustrates how a society that contracts out personal safety to the government similarly loses its liberty. Because if the government is responsible for my safety, and is going to get into trouble if I am harmed, it has to do anything it can to stop me doing harmful things or putting myself in risky situations. This is the “nanny state”.
So at the individual level; if it is made the responsibility for me to report abused children, and if I will get into trouble if I do not, I now have to start proactively seeking to identify abused children for fear of the consequences of negligence. It means that I must react to any suspicion, however slight, with a report. It means that, depending on my personality, I may start suspecting abuse where there is no indicator at all, and get into an advanced state of paranoia regarding it, as did for instance the Cleveland doctors (who had been persuaded of their absolute moral obligation to identify abuse victims, by ideology).
In practise, any such system will produce ever greater numbers of false positives. You’re a teacher, and that girl in your class is a bit awkward and shy. Is she being abused? Why is young Fred acting out? Is he an abuse victim? Jane has a little bruise on her leg. Why is it there? On and on it will go. In the current hysterical climate, it is simply a terrible idea that will ramp things up even further.
Which is why, of course, those with an interest in ramping things up even further are rather in favour of it.
- Peter Raite
July 18, 2014 at 5:14 pm -
One of the main problems (another of them!) with mandatory report is that discretion to nip palpably false accusations in the bud is taken away, and thus false accusations will be allowed to gather far more pace and be more likely ruin the lives – or at least seriously impinge on them – of the falsely accused.
A few years back Mrs Raite, a a supply teacher, suffered the practical realities of mandatory report when some kids no doubt thought it would be a great laugh to outrageously exagerrate a brief off-hand conversation. This saw us propelled into a truly Kaflaesque ordeal which at one point genuinely resulted in a meeting with a social worker who flatly refused to actually repeat the incriminating statements my wife had supposedly said to a class of apparently innocent and delicate 14/15 year old boys – how do you deny you said something when nobody will tell you what you are suppsoed to have said? The insult on top of the injury was that, as a supply teacher unable to work for several months, she lost around £5k in income – not the think you want when you have a wedding less than six montsh away.
- Moor Larkin
July 18, 2014 at 5:35 pm -
Unpleasant but probably lucky it happened now, when she was in a position to explain and justify, and not in 20 years time, in which case she’d probably be convicted if the current legal process continues.
- Peter Raite
July 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm -
True, although in the meeting she was fortified by the sight of the police report on the matter that the social worker left unwittingly left hanging upside down from her unruly bundle of papers. I’m not sure how widespread amongst teachers the ability to read upside down is, but she at least could clearly see that from their interviews with the boys, the police had reached the conclusion there was no substance to the allegations. That was, of course, in the absence of any interview by them of my wife, and in fact even by that stage nobody had ever asked her for her account of the supposed “inappropriate conversation.” It was actually the case that the social worker refused to accept – let alone read – my wife’s written account, which we had prepared before the meeting!
The paperwork is, of course, safely stored away, should it ever be needed….
- Peter Raite
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 6:50 pm -
I am a mandatory reporter in Florida and from time to time have had to make reports, but my experience is completely the opposite. Mandatory reporting mostly protects the reporter by making sure that allegations are documented and investigated promptly.
For example a “vulnerable adult” alleges that one of my employees has punched him in the eye. I call this allegation in to Abuse, knowing that there is no physical evidence of the person being hit at all. The investigator comes the next morning and interviews the chap who now adds several other allegations of being, hit, kicked, punched by the same guy. There is no evidence that this ever happened. For a positive finding of physical abuse you need an X-ray picture, a photograph of bruises, stitches, an eyewitness report, a video recording–some kind of evidence. When no evidence is found the report is added to the fellow’s thick dossier of false reports, and the thicker it gets the more suspicious future investigators will be of future reports.
Now imagine this system had existed in the early 70’s at Duncroft. A group of girls are taken out in a Rolls Royce by a disk jockey, and when they return one alleges she was forced to perform oral sex on said DJ. The staff member is a mandatory reporter, so she calls this in on behalf of the girl, or notes that the girl has called the Abuse Registry herself. An investigator comes immediately after telling the staff to keep a close watch on the girl to ensure that she does not bathe, shower, or change clothing, or do anything that might destroy evidence. The investigator arrives, takes a statement from the girl and from all the other girls who went on the outing and might have seen or heard anything, forensic evidence is collected, and the DJ is interviewed by the police.
OR,
because the UK has no statute of limitations on abuse allegations, a log book is kept for eternity, which records at a minimum who granted permission for the trip (would have to be at a higher management level considering these girls were in legal custody status and were minors), which staff went along (if any), a list of the names of the girls who went, time of departure, time of return, any complaints, whether the girls came back with cash or extra cigarettes gifted by the DJ, and whether any of the girls reported of any complaints or injuries on their return. The facility also has documentation that the girls had access to a phone 24-hours a day to call the Abuse Registry and that each girl received instruction on how to do this.
Wouldn’t this help a lot if allegations surfaced years later?
Of course no system is perfect. The Florida Abuse Registry has asked that people do not call in reports of children without seatbelts in cars, as presumably this floods the already overloaded system.
False Reporting GuidelinesAnyone reporting in good faith shall be immune from any civil or criminal liability. Any person who knowingly and willfully makes a false report or counsels another to make a false report is guilty of a felony of the third degree punishable by up to five years in prison. In addition, the department may impose a fine not to exceed $10,000 for each violation. Each time that a false report is made constitutes a separate violation. A false report is a report of child abuse, neglect or abandonment or adult abuse, neglect or exploitation that is made to the central abuse hotline which is not true and is maliciously made for the purpose of:
Harassing, embarrassing, or harming another person;
Personal financial gain for the reporting person;
Acquiring custody of a child or vulnerable adult; or
Personal benefit for the reporting person in any other private dispute involving a child or vulnerable adultSection 39.205, Florida Statutes (F.S.) states what the department has to do concerning false reporting for children and Section 415.111, F.S. addresses with false reporting for adults.
http://www.myflfamilies.com/service-programs/abuse-hotline/frequently-asked-questions
- Moor Larkin
July 18, 2014 at 7:00 pm -
In respect of the Duncroft stories, there were and are records available but my understanding is that Operation Yewtree had no interest in examining them. The staff involved, who were still living were never consulted by any police investigation either.
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 7:07 pm -
Indeed. But presumably had a living Savile been charged, his defense team would have wanted to subpoena these records. However the Abuse Hotline didn’t exist at the time to provide an immediate valve for addressing abuse allegations. Had it done so the absence of any contemporary reports of sexual abuse by any resident or mandatorily reporting staff would have weighed in Savile’s favour.
- Moor Larkin
July 18, 2014 at 7:20 pm -
In 2030, when nobody can find the memory-stick, we’d just be plunged into Dickens’ Dossier territory I suppose. By virtue of the constant compensation payouts since the 1990’s I would think that every school in Christendom already has a system of compulsory reporting already and anyone NOT reporting would automatically be deemed. This is probably why we only see thirty year-old cases in the courts and nothing that is happening about contemporary abuse. Someone who works with young folk was telling me that as staff, they always operate in threes and one of the three is always the opposite sex. If they have to quell disturbance involving any physical touching then Incident Reports by all three are completed immediately.
Defending Historical Allegations when none of these paper-trails existed must be well-night impossible – especially if those judging you expect to see such things by dint of their own experience of modern life, and view their absence as suspicious.
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 7:53 pm -
This is probably why we only see thirty year-old cases in the courts and nothing that is happening about contemporary abuse.
Shows that it works, then. No?
- Moor Larkin
July 18, 2014 at 8:28 pm -
I think they go to court, but nobody knows because the Family Court system is ‘in-camera’ – which means the opposite, in that terrific British way we have of calling private schools Public……
- Peter Raite
July 21, 2014 at 3:38 pm -
“Camera” in this context is the original latin for a room or chamber (e.g. “camera obscura” means “darkened room”).
- Peter Raite
- Moor Larkin
- Jonathan Mason
- Moor Larkin
- Jonathan Mason
- Ian B
July 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm -
Except that it’s not about relaying complaints from abuse allegators. It’s about deciding for yourself that somebody who has not claimed abuse has been abused and is not reporting it.
All the way back in history, and of the “historic claimants” could have stopped their abuse with an allegation. The Duncroft girls could have reported to the staff. Max Clifford’s blow jobber could have told her dad. None of them did. The whole point of the therapy narrative is that due to male hypnotic svengali superpowers, the victims do not report, so somebody else must guess what’s going on and report on their behalf.
So, teacher (for example) suspects child is being abused, mandatorily reports that, Plod and therapists descend on the family home (or whatever), “safeguard” the child and other children, take the computers to look for some Rolfporn, months of Kafkaesque nightmare descend before either a testimonial based conviction or grudging dropping of the case.
I think you’re being a bit naive about this.
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 7:50 pm -
Well, all I can say is that it doesn’t seem to work that way in Florida. Perhaps it is different in Britain, being such a totalitarian police state.
I was following this local story recently, which may be of interest to you. The writing of the report is lousy, but the gist is that the parents were both in prison and the children were in the care of the highly unreliable grandparents at the time that the children were playing with fire and accidentally set fire to the mobile home where all but one died. However Department of Children and Families did not have enough on the grandparents to remove the children. According to a neighbour the grandparents sat around all day eating handfuls of Xanax, but the grandfather’s last arrest was in 1995, which made him practically a model citizen.
In Florida the criterion for reporting is that the mandated reporter “believes that a child or vulnerable adult is being abused or exploited” so that leaves quite a bit of leeway to individual belief. In practice, for someone to be accused of not reporting, the alleged abuse or neglect would have to be something that was visually or physically evident, or reported to the person by the abused person, or something that was documented, not just an abstract “belief” such as believing that raising children in an atheist home is abuse. For example, the teacher notices the kid is skinny, well OK. But the school nurse documents that the child has lost X pounds in Y weeks and frequently complains of vomiting and that there are reports he tries to steal food from other children–mandatory reporting.
- Jonathan Mason
- Moor Larkin
- Moor Larkin
- Moley
July 18, 2014 at 5:49 pm -
My sister started coming home from school with bruises on her legs. It turned out that the little girl sat opposite her in Kindergarten was kicking her on the shins. I suspect that these days it would have involved a visit from the Social Services instead of my mother paying the offending child and putting the fear of God into her. Of course, that wouldn’t be allowed now, either.
- Moley
July 18, 2014 at 6:41 pm -
Aargh! Paying a visit!
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 6:55 pm -
Since my daughter attends a Christian school, it is the school’s job to put the fear of God into the children. I would talk to the teacher about this
- Jonathan Mason
July 18, 2014 at 7:02 pm -
Since the school would not want to lose a paying customer for the next school year over a few kicks on the shin, it would be in their interest to modify the learning environment to eliminate such sources of injury by employing various strategies such as the naughty step. In David Copperfield the eponymous hero is made to wear a sign on his back saying “Take care of this boy. he bites.” However such aversive methods have fallen out of fashion, thanks to Dickens who is personally responsible for the entire child abuse industry.
- Jonathan Mason
- Jonathan Mason
- Moley
- Peter Raite
- Ian B
- GildasTheMonk
July 18, 2014 at 4:06 pm -
Well researched Boos. An expose indeed. The Establishment is built on hypocrisy indeed.
- Moor Larkin
July 18, 2014 at 5:13 pm -
Hypocrisy? Or Pragmatism?
“With police conduct under ‘unprecedented’ scrutiny, Commander Peter Spindler, the Metropolitan Police’s discipline chief, insisted he was not letting corrupt officers off the hook. But Mr Spindler, head of the force’s directorate of professional standards, said in many cases ‘it’s actually more pragmatic to let them resign’ ”
http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/were-coming-for-you.html
- Moor Larkin
- Mr Ecks
July 18, 2014 at 4:40 pm -
OT but does anyone know if the Leeds General Report on Saville is available on the net anywhere?.
PS Did Butler-Schloss give any reasons for her departure?.
- Mudplugger
July 18, 2014 at 4:57 pm -
Lady BS gave as her reason (I paraphrase) the ‘perception in the minds of victim groups that, because of her family association with a government minister at the time (Michael Havers, her brother), they would not be able to consider her acceptably objective’.
It was only the risk of perception, nothing actual.
- Mudplugger
- Mr Ecks
July 18, 2014 at 4:59 pm -
Thank you both
- mike fowle
July 18, 2014 at 8:13 pm -
“The perception of the survivor group is more important than anything”. Even more than the truth, it seems.
- Gil
July 18, 2014 at 11:25 pm -
Amnesty for terrorist killers -v- child abuse inquiry. Perhaps the dichotomy isn’t so great if the first could protect the lives of potential terrorist victims and the second the lives of potential child abuse victims, both those killed by abusers and those left with their lives in ruins, while helping to achieve justice for past victims still living.
- erichardcastlte
July 19, 2014 at 5:50 am -
Keir Starmer would have to be the worst possible choice and what a shyster Gardsen must be to even suggest it.
The fact that he is so aligned with the Labour Party and a possible candidate and the hysteria surrounding claimed ‘Tory grandees” and Tory pedo rings” etc : the very idea of suggesting him shows the lawyer as a partisan hack.I’m also reminded of the eminent & recently retired NSW Director of Public Prosecutions Nicholas Cowdrey QC who was relentlessly attacked by politicians of all stripes and the media mainly for his strictly implementation of the law.He was also a fierce critic of the media manipulation and sale of stories in the Rolf Harris case describing it as a “despicable act and making it impossible for Harris to get a fair trial”.
He has turned several requests to front such Inquiries on the basis of his former job would create problems -having overseen prosecutions of some who may front any inquiry . How could Gardsen be such an ignorant dickhead ?
- Gil
July 21, 2014 at 12:40 pm -
That’s interesting about the retired DPP. Are there any links to what he said and the political criticism?
The lawyer, who also has a blog with that article and others, was questioned by David Cameron in 2002:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmselect/cmhaff/836/2061113.htm
- Gil
- Ms Mildred
July 19, 2014 at 12:11 pm -
Mr Starmer sounds a bit like The vicar of Bray. He involves himself on any legal bandwagon that is passing by. Even if it turns him into the biggest hypocrite on the planet. The Butler got well and truly slossed by the Twitterati mischief makers and global gossips. Too old for the job anyway and I am nearly 80. Letting murderers go to save things happening in the future. Well it is different to being unable to let go of the past because victims must be believed, not probed or questioned. As they are ‘survivors’ who want ‘closure’ and compensation off the rest of us women who were effed at with lewd propositions, prodded in the boobs, exposed at, chased down the street late at night or tongued forcibly. The only trouble is our tormenters were not ancient celebs with loadsa dosh, just anonymous ordinary blokes prompted by testosterone to be offensive to us poor females. We sighed and just got on with it….no crock of gold 30 or 40 years later.
- EyesWideShut
July 20, 2014 at 4:48 pm -
The deal was done in the North, because if they went after the Provos for their foul deeds, they’d have to go after former and serving RUC-men too. Simple as.
“Collusion was no illusion”.
Now Starmer can talk his head off about no crime goes unpunished, no matter how long ago, but it will be a cold day in hell before they lift the lid on what went on in Ulster.
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