Saturday Evening Posts Worth Reading and the 25 Hour News.
James Rothbard on ‘Rolf Harris – Beyond Reasonable doubt’.
Retarded Kingdom and 20 years of sabotage.
The latest ‘celebrity historic sex abuse’ trial bites the dust. Not guilty. How come the Main Stream Media isn’t reporting this?
The start of the new term at the EU kindergarten….
Ex-diplomat joins the bun fight over Elm Guest House.
Explosive interview with Paul Daniels regarding being gagged by the BBC.
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July 5, 2014 at 10:32 am -
Michael Emma • a day ago
It is interesting to note that some members of the Jury could not speak English and the three Muslim members probably follow Sharia law rather than English.
http://www.libertarianview.co.uk/current-affairs/rolf-harris-beyond-reasonable-doubtCould this be Southwark’s secret weapon of mass distraction?
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July 5, 2014 at 3:25 pm -
Seriously. The comment about Muslims on the jury and 3 of them couldn’t speak English is based on what evidence? It’s even more dodgy than some of the allegations against Harris. Where exactly is the source for this and would the courts disclose any information about a jury. All I know is that it was reported that it was made up of 6 men and 6 women.
As for the Rothbard article it is a cracking piece of real journalism asking those nasty little questions that don’t add up in the face of a guilty verdict that destroys this man’s life and past reputation. Harris may be guilty, but beyond reasonable doubt to send him down? That 1969 allegation is all the more remarkable for the fact that Harris was basking in the glory of a massive no 1 hit single, Two Little Boys which sold a million copies and was at no 1 for 6 weeks over the Christmas period, would he really have done a tour of community center’s? Possible, it was a simpler time, but surely someone else would also have an autograph and a story to tell their kids and grand kids that they met Rolf Harris when he had that big hit. I mean, he has been in the public eye for most of the last 50 years so it’s not like he was a forgotten one hit wonder. Also, perhaps others will know, but did the girl as a 7/8 go to the community center with anyone, a parent or relation? Most of the reports don’t mention who she was with. Would she really have gone there alone as a 7 year old?
There’s something else about Harris that doesn’t add up. I believe the allegations against him are related to Harris the entertainer, are there any relating to Harris the artist? Rolf Harris painted a lot of pictures across different genres, including nudes and partially clothed women. I suppose it’s possible he mostly painted from photos, but women also posed for him. Here’s one where Lily Cole, Elizabeth Jagger and actresses Dervla Kirwan and Emer Kenny all posed for him.
There doesn’t appear to be any allegations of inappropriate behavior against him from anyone who posed for him or in his work as an artist. Considering he is now being portrayed as a sexual deviant, monster predator, how did he control himself? A woman posing naked or semi naked is about as vulnerable as she can get when the man painting her is supposedly a pervert.
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July 6, 2014 at 6:53 am -
@ Where exactly is the source for this and would the courts disclose any information about a jury. @
I quoted the source and it was Michael to Emma in the comments on that article. How would he know? A concerned citizen who went to the open court I guess and observed. A chap attended a court involved in another of these celeb-paedo cases and told me that by observation, the entire jury appeared to be under 40. I have no idea whether that is typical or relevant or even matters; it’s just an attempt to report information that is well-intended and intended to inform us – the people. We tend to believe that the jury is “us”, but is it? How can we know if it isn’t. It is certainly the case that being “unable to understand the English language” would bar a person from being on the jury, so Michaels’ comments do seem to indicate a possible agenda…
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/exemptions-from-jury-serviceThere was however a considerable furore in the first trial of Chris Huhne’s wife. There were numerous indications in the press that the jury was a bit odd. The judge was fuming and abandoned the trial on the basis that the jury was inept. In the second trial, the verdict was delivered quickly and smoothly and in accordance with the the obvious evidence. It leaves open the wonderment of how the first jury could have been so very strange.
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July 5, 2014 at 3:40 pm -
It seems unlikely that jurors could have been selected who did not speak English. Perhaps English was not their first language, but that is a very different matter. Surely the defense would have objected if this was known, but if not, then perhaps it would form part of the grounds for an appeal.
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July 5, 2014 at 3:32 pm -
The Rothbard article is very good and makes the not proven “beyond reasonable doubt” case very well, in fact he seems to have made a much better case for the defense than the defense counsel did in court (if the newspaper coverage I have seen is accurate, which it might not be).
In the comments section there is this letter, which seems important. I don’t know if this guy gave evidence at the trial.
I know this as fact; Rolf Harris has been my close friend for over 17 years, in that time I have presented with, and supported him in literally hundreds of “gigs”, I have seen him sign autographs for literally thousands of people, of all ages and sexes. Never once, NOT ONCE, have I ever seen him abuse, or be inappropriate with ANYBODY and this is with me working closely with him, on stage, back stage, driving him, body guarding him, and sharing part of the same house with him for over 12 years.
Something in his recent “conviction” is very, very wrong. His trial was supposed to present evidence to convict, “Beyond reasonable doubt.” Well, sorry, there was so much “reasonable doubt” that the case should have been thrown out before it even started. The Judge in his summing up was no where near, “Impartial” and the media have done their best to bring on that “conviction” prior to the trial and needed a “soft target,” they got it in Rolf. A household name celebrity, loved by the people for being exactly who he is, a warm, open hearted, loving man. British justice has just left the building with this disgraceful verdict.
“The powers that be” have needed a “patsy” a “Scape goat” because of the debacle around Savile, (a total psychopath, sexual predator) to put the spot light on some other poor soul to keep the “Sheeple” of the world appeased and in fear, while the real pedophiles of the UK go untouched and remain cloaked and protected by the insidious perversions of the very establishments that have just “convicted” my dear friend.
So that you know, Rolf has totally supported me, a sexually abused, runaway kid, who had no real parents, no home and no sense of self worth until Rolf came in to my life. I will always love him very dearly and stand by him 100%.
To the justice system of the UK, shame on you, shame on you.
To Mr. Rolf Harris, you are my dear friend, I love you very much, I hold the vision of you safe return home ASAP to the arms of your beloved Alwen.
I say this in all truth.
Chris “Shining Bear” Brosnan
The points I take away from this letter and from the article are, in no particular order, as follows:
1. There might be a case at appeal that the judge was biased in his summing up or in the way he addressed the jury questions, or indeed in his sentencing remarks. His finding in the sentencing remarks, that presumably is now entered into common law, that the Friend of Bindi became an alcoholic because of premature sexual activity with Harris is truly breathtaking in scope and may open the door for numerous claims in the future.
Where would this finding had stood if the jury had come back with a “not guilty” verdict. And what would have happened to the “victim impact statements” that had been prepared? Had the judge seen them in advance or could they be admitted into the court record without any kind of prior scrutiny? Could they now be sold to the tabloids?
The judge would presumably have harboured his secret conviction of the cause-effect relationship between sex and alcoholism until another suitable case came along.
2. The defense seems to have done a very poor job in cross examing and impeaching the motives prosecution witnesses and in summing up the contradictions in their evidence, though one wonders whether the illness of the lead defense lawyer that made her absent from the final summing up could have affected the outcome.
3. The law as it exists in the UK today may lend itself to false testimony. While most people believe that no woman would come forward with such accusations out of pure malice, and no doubt this is true for the vast majority of women, it may not be true for all. Consider the huge number of people who are found out making false claims for disability or whiplash injuries from car crashes on both sides of the Atlantic. Consider also the considerable number of women who are involved in criminal con schemes, white collar fraud etc., and the women who are associates of men who are involved in organized crime. Having worked a bit in prisons and being acquainted with wholesale numbers of criminals, I am under no illusions that there are intelligent minds constantly at work figuring out ways to make easy money without working for it.
4. The people who comment on blogs like Anna Raccoon, Spiked online, and the Rothbard site are a relatively small core of people who pop up all over the place. There are some who also pop up on on the UK Criminal Law blog, but that seems to have a more diverse readership (probably a lot of lawyers).
5. Criminal justice is not Agatha Christie or Cracker, or any kind scientific process. It is messy and inexact, and has huge scope for gross miscarriages of justice. However, the fact that witchcraft seems to be extinct in the UK today other than in Harry Potter books shows that it must be effective.
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July 5, 2014 at 4:10 pm -
You should look on that guy’s Facebook page for an interesting explanation for the presence of all that porn on the computer. Plod simply cannot help lying, can he. I asked a barrister friend of mine how she could tell when plod was lying in the witness box. She said “When their lips are moving”.
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July 5, 2014 at 7:53 pm -
As mentioned on libertarianview- the ‘child abuse’ photos has now become a public belief. It must be one of the dirtiest CPS & police tactics I’ve seen in a long and it was highly successful. Announce the accusation and leave it to hang but not charge and then drop it after the trial And it worked.
I really fear for British justice these days and more so because it invariably affects Australia as well :’same fact evidence’ now common there.
2 cases now, ironically both involving Australian entertainers have shown a highly disturbing trend and the current serving legal fraternity remains moot.
In the Robert Hughes’ case in Oz & with Harris : the hiring of agents & the negotiating of abuse tales to tabloids. In Hughes case the agent & complainant’s emails showed them pondering on how to present the story the best way possible and the complainant moaning about the price offered : from $15,000 to eventually $85,000. A clear incentive to fabricate or exaggerate.And in the Harris trial the Prosecution claim one complainant’s sale of her story was the same as Harris writing his autobiography.
# that complainant- whilst continually claiming she ‘wants to get on with life” via endless interviews where tears roll each time claims, she ‘regrets selling her story” but that’s possibly due to her battle with her own celebrity agent over non -payment. Not to worry, a new agent hired and latest I’ve heard around $150,000 is now being discussed.The former NSW Chief of Prosecutions Nicholas Cowdrey QC, no wilting flower who saw off attacks for 20 years from the Left & Right and News Ltd , described the publishing of the Harris tales as “utterly despicable and making it almost impossible for Harris to receive a fair trial”.
# In Hughes’ case there is also the worrying involvement of “recovered memory” ratbag Liz Mulliner who hosted the Hughes complainant at her ‘retreat’, and the fact Mulliner was a rival show-biz agent to Hughes’ wife with an eventual falling out and Mulliner’s top clients siding with Hughes’ wife- stars like Cate Blanchet who have come under pressure but remained steadfastly loyal.Meanwhile Felicity Gerry QC has been posting some of the most disturbing twitter links I’ve seen and almost convince me British Law is descending into madness : she makes the claim –
1. in abuse cases that false complaints for the purposes of gaining cash should be seen as “old fashioned” and simply viewed as a common tort. If you change the wording apparently false claims just disappear.
2. She asks that those accused in sex cases have their assets frozen to stop distribution : in all my years in working for insurance claims I never heard the prospect that an insurance company should have it’s funds frozen because of a claim or indeed, an amount set aside in case of a successful claim
3. she now ponders that witnesses against Harris who claim they were abused but were not subject of charges , their unproven abuse claims should have been considered in sentencing !!…that possibly being her most outlandish belief. In other words, Haris need not be tried on some cases but sentenced anyway.-
July 6, 2014 at 1:06 am -
# apparently the porn charge was delayed as the defense wanted to contact European porn producers to verify ages. So we really are looking at teens possibly older who may pass for 14/15/16= so every easy to do with teh right camera angle.
No worry, CPS got all the benefit without the hard work,
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July 6, 2014 at 6:26 am -
Wasn’t that also the case with a lot of the now- notorious Operation Ore cases?
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July 6, 2014 at 7:59 am -
And if the actors were not of age, would the prosecution proceed against the porn producers? And what possible sentence could be given to them?
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July 5, 2014 at 4:01 pm -
I think it would be very interesting to look at material accessed on the internet by those jurors on that last weekend. As I am quite sure the judge would have instructed them not to look at material relevant to the case, surely they wouldn’t have disregarded him. Allegedly.
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July 5, 2014 at 4:12 pm -
Lovely Leigh Park!!
If the community centre story were true it would be well remembered and almost certainly front page of the local rag.
The girl will be telling her story in her own time said one report.
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July 5, 2014 at 4:35 pm -
Will she be waiving anonymity now? It should then be possible to check if the stories are true about her having a bankruptcy notice in the paper a few days before she made the allegations.
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July 6, 2014 at 6:44 am -
Portsmouth was the hot-bed of the paedo Riots back at the dawning of the Millenium when only the disreputable rabble-rousing News of the World seemed to believe in all this stuff. It seems to remain a hot-bed. I gather the “Gojam” blog, which is extensively used by Exaro is based in that area and one of the senior NAPAC people hails from the same area. On the other hand, everyone comes from somewhere too.
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July 5, 2014 at 4:13 pm -
Oops! Sorry Anna, can you remove the duplicate?
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July 5, 2014 at 4:57 pm -
Lol at the comments on Craig’s blog. Two posters popped up to say “Hold on” just as the consensus was forming, and the rest started squeaking and gibbering and accusing them of being “shills”. You gotta BELIEVE. Otherwise, you’re off the team.
And these people think they’re clued-in and hip to the way we’re manipulated and exploited. You can’t pull the wool over their eyes, oh no.
Jeez.
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July 5, 2014 at 9:21 pm -
Anna; any comment on this story about 114 missing ‘Paedo’ files at Whitehall?
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July 6, 2014 at 8:47 am -
Geoffrey Dickens was guilty of appalling judgement on similar matters.
http://swallowingthecamel.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/the-prodigal-witch-xi-audrey-harper/It is, of course, entirely possible that there is substance in the ‘Dickens dossier’ currently in the news. But Dickens was clearly a credulous man, not given to critically assessing things properly.
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July 6, 2014 at 9:31 am -
Information from the time has been brought to the attention of *us*, so watch this space.
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July 6, 2014 at 9:45 am -
Too late for some I fear….
Anonymous
July 29, 2012 at 04:54
I saw AUdrey at WOlverhampton POlytechnic when the Cook Report cameras were also filming. Her lecture was a deeply disturbing one and a few people actually converted to Christianity that night from their Wicca religion. Amazing woman and her conviction left me in no doubt it was all true.Reading, “her conviction left me in no doubt it was all true” makes me wonder if she was channelling Esther Rantzen.
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