The Cheque's in the Male and Twictimisation.
The rise of militant feminism has been quite hilarious to those of us who grew up in a pre-feminist world and still happily managed to make a life for ourselves in ‘male dominated professions’, and were mostly reared by a generation of women who cheerfully built Wellington bombers and reared families alone through force of necessity – actions which allowed today’s generation of female ‘victims’ to moan endlessly on Twitter without having to learn German.
Feminism arose on the University campuses; a clutch of boiler suited, Doc Marten shod, eccentrics, preaching the gospel according to St Greer – it didn’t seem so threatening at the time, just mildly amusing, in the same way that previous generations of students had livened newspaper columns with tales of ladies knickers appearing on the head of Sir Isaac Newton’s statue.
It was at Aberystwyth University that the issue of women as perennial victims of rape first reared its ugly head. A female student had over imbibed on Vodka during a party. A security guard was detailed to walk(?) her back to Halls. Two days later she complained to a university counsellor that ‘something had happened’ that night, but she couldn’t remember what. The security guard was questioned – he admitted, yes, indeed something had happened; they had had enthusiastic sex in the corridor before reaching her room. The security guard was charged with rape and the case went to Crown Court. She said she could neither remember giving consent, nor refusing. The case was stopped after she admitted this in court; the Judge, Mr Justice Roderick Evans, agreed with the prosecution who said that “drunken consent is still consent”. Please note: the prosecution, not the defence.
Feminists were outraged. It would, they said, lead to women not coming forward to report rape simply because they had been drinking. It was ‘victim blaming’. Despite the CPS’ best endeavours, ‘drunken consent is still consent’ remains the law. The leading case, R. v. Bree [2007]EWCA Crim 804 walked a tightrope – if you have drunk sufficient to temporarily lose your capacity to chose whether to have sex or not – then it is rape. However it is not rape simply because you are drunk and regret your antics once sobered up.
In the US, where universities retain the ability to adjudicate on these matters outside of the judicial system, an altogether more draconian regime reigns. On the Quaker neo-liberal – ‘progressive’ – campus of Swarthmore College the feminist activists had been busy. Thus it was that 23 year old Lisa Sendrow found herself a willing customer of the student ‘sexual assault resource’.
Lisa and her boyfriend had been ‘seeing’ each other, and having sex, for three months. When he fell asleep on the bed in her room, she thought nothing of taking her clothes off, putting on her pyjamas, and climbing into bed next to him.
Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. “I basically said, ‘No, I don’t want to have sex with you.’ And then he said, ‘Okay, that’s fine’ and stopped,” Sendrow told me. “And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.”
Six weeks later, she went to see a university counsellor and announced that she had been raped. The counsellor, a male by the name of Tom Elverson, was incredulous – and she left his office in tears. Several months later, she told a Dean about the incident, and once again she was ‘brushed off’. What Lisa wanted was the full on approach that the CPS in the UK are currently promoting – that she should be believed, and the man, or rather fellow student, taken to court and prosecuted. What the college was offering was a more avuncular ‘in loco parentis’ attitude of attempting to resolve the dispute amicably as they would any other dispute between students.
Rape culture will have none of that. Now the Obama administration is riding to the rescue of ‘sexual assault’ victims. It is demanding that colleges take action under ‘Title X’ legislation which applies a minimum standard of ‘reasonable likelihood’ when adjudicating sexual assault charges between males and the female ‘survivors’ (note the language of premature adjudication) – or face withdrawal of federal funds, and civil claims against the college.
The idea that women should in any way protect themselves from getting into situations where their willingness to have sex might be in doubt is tantamount to heresy. The newly crowned Miss USA, Nia Sanchez, who just happens to have a fourth-degree black belt in taekwondo, as you do, was asked about the startling increase in reporting college sexual assaults, and replied that women might like to take steps to train in self defence. Cue a Twitter storm:
Evidently, ’empowering women’ by ensuring they remain powerless is the height of feminism. The new feminism wishes women to be able to take off their clothes, climb in bed with their boyfriend, and should they later regret the ensuing sex, to be able to sue which ever institution they were in for ‘failing to protect them’.
The cheque, as ever, is in the male…
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 11:37 am -
It does seem to me that for a “first [claimed] offence” some intermediate stage of [legally recorded] mediation might be useful. That way both parties could have a voice. The lawyers have been fomenting the Divorce Wars for decades and all this kind of confrontational politics just seems an extension of those same legal attitudes of black and white into some very grey areas of human nature. As Lady Bracknell might have remarked, “To have one accusation of rape might seem accidental, but to have yet another would appear careless”. The same reasoning would apply to the “victim”.
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 11:40 am -
I should add that this procedure would only apply where there is no objective evidence of witnesses/battery extant. The obvious often has to be stated when ruminating about “the law”…..
- Moor Larkin
- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 11:39 am -
There is a sort of weary familiarity to these cases of not rape, so much as post coital regret, especially arising from the US college campuses.
When police decide there is no case to answer (as in the Drew University case) and yet the student is expelled by the college kangaroo court and has his college transcript contaminated by such allegations that he is unable to go to another university, they shouldn’t be surprised when they get sued.
Equally, if an alleged rapist is found not guilty in a court of law and then subsequently ejected by the college kangaroo court? what kind of justice is that?
Or when the ‘rape’ allegation is actually just a bit of post-coital regret because the boyfriend found out that she had a bit of rumpy pumpy whilst he was away and to save her relationship with the boyfriend she says that the in-fact consensual sex was suddenly rape?
Or the law student who made a false rape claim to get a bye on her law exams?
The net effect of all of this is to undermine the genuine cases of rape.
- JuliaM
June 12, 2014 at 12:21 pm -
“The net effect of all of this is to undermine the genuine cases of rape.”
Something that always gets trotted out by the police spokespeople as the main issue with false rape claims. But what about the effect on the accused? Shouldn’t that be first & foremost?
- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 2:03 pm -
Well, surely the accused from the “rape claim” becomes the victim in the “false rape claim”.
Not that these things can ever ameliorate the damage of the original allegations, which is why both the victim and the alleged rapist should be given anonymity until the accused is found guilty.
- John Galt
- JuliaM
- Lucozade
June 12, 2014 at 11:44 am -
Re: “It was at Aberystwyth University that the issue of women as perennial victims of rape first reared its ugly head. A female student had over imbibed on Vodka during a party. A security guard was detailed to walk(?) her back to Halls. Two days later she complained to a university counsellor that ‘something had happened’ that night, but she couldn’t remember what. The security guard was questioned – he admitted, yes, indeed something had happened; they had had enthusiastic sex in the corridor before reaching her room”
Although it could well have been this drunken woman who threw herself at the security guard (i’ve seen it before), it may not have been, but either way, the fact the guy *knew* how drunk she was, and *if* he was working at the time he himself was probably sober means I think he did take advantage of her, she’s not miss innocent by getting herself into that state herself either, but he was sober *and* probably a member of staff, I don’t know if it can be clearly called rape or not as unfortunately the girl got herself into such a state she can’t remember a damn thing (it would be different had she been unconscious or deliberately spiked of course), but he did take advantage by the looks of it.
That said many woman *do* get drunk and either throw themselves at equally drunk or nearly as drunk men and carry on pestering them till they finally give in or even if the same happens with a not so drunk guy it isn’t always obvious to another person just how drunk an individual is if they still have their balance, most of their coordination etc, yet they can still be so drunk they won’t remember what they are doing the next day – guys that have sexual relations with individuals like this are not to blame, and you could even argue the blame lies with the person making the drunken pass at them….
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 12:04 pm -
She must have had some really nice friends. They were so “concerned” about her that they couldn’t be bothered to take her home themselves. It’s probably worth pointing out that the “Security Guard” was not some fat middle-aged bloke with psoriasis btw.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4465622.stm- Lucozade
June 12, 2014 at 12:27 pm -
Moor Larkin,
Re: “She must have had some really nice friends. They were so “concerned” about her that they couldn’t be bothered to take her home themselves”
They probably thought she was in safe hands with the young security guard, at the end of the day she was a grown woman and she was only drunk.
If the incident in the corridor had happened with a fellow drunken party goer it would probably look (given that she can’t remember a god damn thing through drinking too much) on the face of it like a drunken one night stand or something. But if this guy was sober and had been asked to take her back to the room because of how drunk she was – so he was aware of how drunk she was – then, regardless of who instigated it, unless she pinned him down and forced him – he did take advantage a bit….
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 12:35 pm -
I would imagine the College might be liable to Vicarious Liability nowadays too, especially since the “Security Gurad” was self-evidentially in a “position of authority”. Certainly he was no gentleman.
- Moor Larkin
- Lucozade
- Moor Larkin
- GildasTheMonk
June 12, 2014 at 12:32 pm -
Hmmmm
There is a “feminist” agenda which sees all men as rapists, or potential rapists.- Joe Public
June 12, 2014 at 5:19 pm -
Well they are all “Going equipped….”
- JuliaM
June 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm -
Some more so than others…
- JuliaM
- Joe Public
- Ed P
June 12, 2014 at 1:19 pm -
Is it the threat of violence which makes women give in to unwelcome advances? There’s no mention of actual physical harm (above), or bruises or torn clothing. Perhaps it’s “anything for a quiet life” syndrome (‘cos you can always decide afterwards to report him)?
A vagina has powerful muscles around it – there’s no chance of penetration if the woman chooses not to allow it.- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 2:12 pm -
oops… wrong person – please delete landlady….
- Lucozade
June 12, 2014 at 7:19 pm -
Ed P,
Re: “A vagina has powerful muscles around it – there’s no chance of penetration if the woman chooses not to allow it”
Unless she’s unconscious… Though I think that woman seems to be suggesting she was too tired to object….
- Moor Larkin
- Jonathan Mason
June 12, 2014 at 1:45 pm -
It seems to me that there ought at the very least to be different categories of “rape”. For example the stranger who kidnaps a woman at knife or gunpoint and forces her to have unprotected sex while he has a transmissible infection should not be in the same serious crime category as the overamorous boyfriend or husband who wants to have sex when his other half would prefer to go to sleep after overimbibing at a party.
Once you make it too easy to convict men of rape, then you will get more false allegations of rape and incest in bitterly fought divorce cases or cases where women have been dismissed by male employers.
- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 2:07 pm -
Ah. Perhaps a believer in the Whoopi Goldberg school of law in which the drugging, rape and sodomising of a 14-year old girl was “rape” but not “rape rape”?
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/sep/29/roman-polanski-whoopi-goldberg
- Jonathan Mason
June 12, 2014 at 2:29 pm -
In a documentary for A&E Television Networks entitled Roman Polanski (2000), Samantha Gailey Geimer stated “…he had sex with me. He wasn’t hurting me and he wasn’t forceful or mean or anything like that, and really I just tried to let him get it over with.” She also claimed that the event had been blown “all out of proportion”. [Wikipedia]
This is probably what Goldberg was referring to. In any case the girl was under age, so it was illegal which ever way you slice it. Had she been over the age of consent, it might not have come to court as a rape charge.
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm -
In her Grand Jury Testimony it is apparent she’d had sex on two prior occasions, but I’ve never read of those men being tracked down and brought to justice, nor anything bad about her mother, who seems to have enabled the encounters (certainly in the case of Polanski).
- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 3:09 pm -
They include shocking details of 13-year-old Geimer testifying that the 43-year-old Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude before performing oral, vaginal and anal intercourse on her, despite her demands to “keep away.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/roman-polanski/story?id=8705958
Sorry, but I don’t give a crap how good he is at making movies or sob stories about his murdered wife – that shit is wrong and he should have been locked up for it back in the 1970’s.
- John Galt
- Moor Larkin
- Lucozade
June 12, 2014 at 7:32 pm -
John Galt,
Re: “Ah. Perhaps a believer in the Whoopi Goldberg school of law in which the drugging, rape and sodomising of a 14-year old girl was “rape” but not “rape rape”
It was ‘statutory’ rape, he apparently admitted to having sex with her but denied drugging or forcing her – she’d taken half a quallude through choice and said herself that it was not her first time taking them and she drunk the champagne of her own free will – he apparently just poured her a glass to pose with for the photo shoot he didn’t tell her to drink it all. Not standing up for him particularly, but I think the story (like a lot of things) was misrepresented a bit in the media….
- Jonathan Mason
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 2:13 pm -
@Jonathan Mason
Kenneth Clarke tried that sort of thing a while back. Strangely enough he became subject to all manner of strange allegations on the web after that. Exaro, a self-proclaimed “journalist agency” even got one of their informants nicked for telling them stories about Ken. That was a while after Exaro had been merrily making hay with juicy asides about “child abuse” in Parliament of course. Keep your friends close, and dob them in when you need to, seems to be the way to do it in the world of the wannabe MSM. They’re of so little use that you cannot even wipe your bum with their webpages.- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 2:24 pm -
Presumably you’re referring to Operation Fairbank and Operation Fernbridge?
- erichardcastle
June 14, 2014 at 3:13 pm -
Exaro are going quite demented at the moment and demanding a parliamentary inquiry or royal commission because some lady claimed she was raped by an MP or minister. Their twitter feed demands it 5 or 6 times a day because about 20 MPs are demanding it.
Seems the lady says she didn’t get a good hearing from the police so now wants a million pound inquiry as does Exaro.
Given the plod & CPS are only to keen to string up a pedo or rapists at present it seems the evidence may be some what lacking.- Daisy Ray
June 14, 2014 at 5:53 pm -
Exaro are claiming minister wasn’t charged because of a ‘cover-up’ (always the last resort of a lazy journalist). If there’s some supernatural power keeping politicians out of trouble, I wonder how it was so ineffectual over Nigel Evans, Alun Lewis, Patrick Rock, Andrew Mitchell, that bloke with the Latin American rent boy etc, etc.
- Daisy Ray
- John Galt
- John Galt
- Jonathan Mason
June 12, 2014 at 2:00 pm -
The Aberystwyth University case is an interesting one. I have no particular sympathy one way or the other, except to point out that in cases of allegations of rape on both sides of the Atlantic, it is a defense against rape that there was consent. So if there is clearly proof that sex took place, the accused sexual predator may well put forward a defense of consent even in the most unlikely circumstances.
I have actually seen case histories where the offender has claimed that children of five and six years of age had initiated sexual activity with him. One’s first reaction is “oh, how ridiculous, what a liar!” but the fact is that the offender was probably calculating enough to know that initiative on the part of the child could be allowed as a mitigating factor at sentencing, though perhaps not savvy enough to realize that such a defense might outrage the court.
Trials are not always about the truth, and clearly in most trials either it is about legal technicalities, or someone is telling porky pies, whether it be witnesses for the prosecution, or the defendant and his lawyer. A defendant may expect to be found guilty, but be trying to shoot for sentence at the lower end of the range. Not saying this was the case at Aberystwyth, but it could have been.
- Robert the Biker
June 12, 2014 at 2:28 pm -
Perhaps a charge of “Unwelcome/Unappreciated Knobbing” would suffice in some of these cases! I have great sympathy for anyone who is a genuine victim, but a lot of this sounds like buyers remorse to me, especially when there has been a serious passage of time between event and moan.
Princess and Frog… Through the haze of several Vodkas, he’s a Prince… next morning as she sees him farting and scratching next to her, he’s a Frog. Since no enlightened and totally with it woming would EVER go to bed with a Frog, it must have been rape etc. etc.
Pity men can’t make the same complaint, but then, we’re always the guilty party aren’t we?- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 2:34 pm -
Bad in bed. Bad all over.
- Johnnydub
June 12, 2014 at 5:55 pm -
The corollary being I’ve never gone to bed with an ugly women but by god I’ve woken up with a few…
- Johnnydub
- Moor Larkin
- Robert the Biker
- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 2:20 pm -
When you’re talking about allegedly non-consensual sex within the context of dating, long-term relationship or even marriage there is always
going to be some degree of “he said / she said” about it, given the nature of sex generally being an intimate act between two people in the privacy of their own home / room / hotel, etc.Where there is no previous evidence of domestic violence, bruising or other physical signs then with the best will in the world both the police and the prosecution authorities have a hell of a hard time trying to determine fact from fiction. This has led to any allegations of rape becoming a political football for feminist agenda’s and this has been exacerbated for political ends by the likes of Alison Saunders of the CPS.
Historically, in cases where there was only a “he said / she said” allegation and no other witness or physical evidence the police and CPS would have refused to proceed, but now their own politically motivated guidelines force them to act in such circumstances and this has led to obvious miscarriages of justice, not only where the rape allegations were completely without merit, but also where both parties were completely inebriated and neither recall the circumstances.
The presumption that the drunkenness of the female means that the male is always guilty of rape (regardless of his own state of intoxication) is also very troubling to me.
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 2:33 pm -
@ the male is always guilty of rape (regardless of his own state of intoxication) @
Was Brewer’s Droop just an Urban Myth then?
Was it just an excuse I made to cover my own Inadequacy?…. 8-o- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 2:45 pm -
No, more like she had the Chablis Pince-nez on (a sort of feminine version of Beer Goggles) and when she woke up in the morning next to this snoring, drunken slob, decided that he wasn’t quite the catch she thought he was last night and decides, in a fit of post-coital regret that it was no consensual sex but rape. After all she has a reputation to maintain if she’s going to bag a “George Clooney” lookalike.
- Moor Larkin
June 12, 2014 at 3:36 pm -
Maybe they all use viagra nowadays.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9812293/Brewers-droop-can-hang-around-for-months.html
- Moor Larkin
- John Galt
- Jonathan Mason
June 12, 2014 at 4:40 pm -
Perhaps if more men refused to have sex with women who were drinking, women would drink less!
There is an obvious conundrum here, because it is pretty clear that both sexes often need a few drinks to loosen up and pair off for sex, even when that is definitely what they have in mind.
For example in bars and discos in the Dominican Republic where male tourists go for the express purpose of meeting local women for sex, and local women go for the express purpose of meeting male tourists for sex, many members of both “teams” will still spend a couple of hours drinking, dancing, flirting, grinding, and generally eyeing-up prospects before acquiring enough Dutch courage to pair off and depart for further intimacies in a private setting where there may be further imbibing. This is obviously a great business for bar owners, as the drink prices show a hefty margin over wholesale prices.
The solution in places like the UK pub scene or US college campuses is to have sex segregated bars for men and women where both sexes can go and dance, wear skimpy attire, and get drunk without any chance of meeting the other sex. Female-only bars could, of course, be serviced by female-only taxi drivers. I can see this being hugely profitable as parents will be so happy to know that their sons are drinking in male company and perfectly safe from allegations of sexual misconduct.
Can anyone think of any reason why this would not work?
- Ho Hum
June 12, 2014 at 4:51 pm -
Because it might be germane to some woman protesting about how unequal, in a gendered sense, it all would be?
- Lucozade
June 12, 2014 at 8:00 pm -
Jonathan Mason,
Re: “Can anyone think of any reason why this would not work?”
Same reason it does necessarily work in male and female only prisons either, lol…
- erichardcastle
June 14, 2014 at 3:22 pm -
I know someone that has every room in their apartment wired with hidden cameras.
- erichardcastle
- Ho Hum
- Moor Larkin
- John Galt
June 12, 2014 at 2:40 pm -
Fairly typical example, personally I think those found guilty of false rape charges should face the same prison terms as the men they accuse. Not that it would correct the injustice, but there is a certain reciprocity about it.
June 9 2014 , Billings Montana, Christina Nadine Nelson, 23, is charged with repeatedly fabricating false rape claims from 2009-2012.
Nelson’s first accusation says she was raped in 2009 on her way to prom. She told police her date cut her with a knife and raped her before the dance. However, an investigation found she suffered no cuts on the night of her prom and she stayed at the dance for the entirety of the event.
One month later, Nelson said she wanted to drop the charges against the boy, but the damage was already done – her alleged rapist had been expelled from school and moved out of the state with his family due to shaming and embarrassment.
In 2012, Nelson claimed she was raped by her ex-boyfriend. She said her ex approached her in the parking lot of her workplace and hit her repeatedly before forcing her into the back of his van and raping her. She allegedly went to the bar to get drinks with a friend following the assault and only told her husband about it after the two had intercourse later that night. – See more at: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/montana-woman-accused-repeatedly-making-false-rape-accusations#sthash.dupExwwy.dpuf
- Ho Hum
June 12, 2014 at 4:27 pm -
Looking at this from a slightly different angle, given the often quoted purported percentages of the population, I find it strange that I cannot ever remember having read of a case of any woman complaining about equivalent misadventures being instigated by another woman.
On balance, that does seem most unlikely. So have I just not been looking in the right places, or maybe as broadly as I might have? – or are similar sex relationships all angelic? – or does the equalities agenda maybe take a quiet back seat where aberrations within sisterly love is concerned?
Anyone have any thoughts? Or pertinent other information?
- Joe Public
June 12, 2014 at 5:30 pm -
A start would be to grant immediate anonymity to both parties. Or does equality work in only one direction.
- Ho Hum
June 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm -
Yes
You were rat arsed. What happened was your fault, not mine
He, she, or it was rat arsed. What happened was their fault, not mine
I was rat arsed. What happened was the fault of you, anyone else, everybody else, the world, and probably his wife too. How could anyone possibly think it was mine?
- Ho Hum
June 12, 2014 at 7:11 pm -
We were rat arsed? See, I knew that was your fault too
- Ho Hum
- Ho Hum
- Eddy
June 12, 2014 at 5:38 pm -
Anyone know what is happening in the Rolf Harris trial? There has been no report since the prosecution closing statement. I was expecting to read about what the defense had to say, but it seems to have all gone quite.
- Ho Hum
June 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm -
Defence counsel took ill. Hoped to resume start next week, if well enough. So says Australian press.
- Eddy
June 12, 2014 at 7:54 pm -
Thanks, I wondered what was happening.
- Eddy
- Ho Hum
- Pericles
June 12, 2014 at 8:57 pm -
I’m a life-long feminist. Well, I say ‘life-long’; as a devout pedant I ought not to for it might — for all I know — be ‘three-quarter-life-long’ or, Heaven forbid, ‘half-life-long’. (Now, there’s an interesting subject for a government grant: establishing the half-life of a feminist. Is that ‘Fe’ in the periodic table? Hey … he could even do the ironing! Geddit?)
But mine is a different kind of feminism, more in line with that of the much maligned Greer Garson — down, boy! — I mean Germaine Greer.
The feminism I espouse is the equality of opportunity. I don’t mean silly things like girl sailors, soldiers and airmen (whom I feel sure we’re obliged by some ruling issued by the ‘Ministry of Defence’ to call ‘airpersons’); I refer rather to the entirely reasonable expectation every girl presumably has of access to any profession in which she might prove capable.
Unwanted sexual approaches — by any-one to any-one — ought not to be grounded in ‘feminism’ at all but should be seen in a civilized society as offensive per se.
ΠΞ
- corevalue
June 13, 2014 at 6:50 pm -
So, wanted sexual advances are OK? How does one make an approach, before knowing whether the approach is wanted or unwanted?
For men, it’s best not to approach at all these days. Let the women start making the approaches, and see if they can handle the rejection.
- erichardcastle
June 14, 2014 at 3:31 pm -
one day you will need to sign in triplicate and have a JP witness the agreement. Probably should ask the lady to do a breathalizer test to be safe.
- Lucozade
June 14, 2014 at 4:08 pm -
erichardcastle,
Re: “Probably should ask the lady to do a breathalizer test to be safe”
Lol….
- Lucozade
- erichardcastle
- corevalue
- Ho Hum
June 12, 2014 at 9:28 pm -
Technical question for the landlady pls
Has WordPress done something to its global formatting, insofar as it appears on mobile phones, or have you perchance ‘personalised’ your own output?
The comment box appears differently – which is no big deal – but nested comments, Oh My! The further they are nested, the further they are justified to the right of the screen page until, ultimately, they can appear as a thousand lines of one character per line
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June 12, 2014 at 10:46 pm
- Joe Public
- Budvar
June 12, 2014 at 10:02 pm -
This is not how it was explained to me in the last couple of weeks. See my post May 31st in the Lesser spotted thread.
Can’t go into too much detail as the case is still ongoing, but suffice to say, yes it involves some feminista from the local college sticking her oar in and taking things further off her own back and not involing college at all. The allegation did not happen in college, but the previous weekend elsewhere. Should know one way or the other in the next few days as there are “Issues” with the 2 involved. - Ms Mildred
June 13, 2014 at 8:55 am -
So a feminista can go out on the lash or is it lush? Get ratted, amorous, even eager, to conjoin with her next er ‘victim’; the ever eager male lover, even if very well known to her . The deed is done. She then decides she was at a disadvantage, her being drunk an all that. A Feminista then reports this as a rapish assault on her none existent virtue. The faeces then hit the fan big time for the poor victimised sod, who just wanted to get his legover with a merry lady, who he thought was a friend. I don’t get it, maybe I am too old for all this claptrap and legalistic nonsense. The spawn of the sixties are at it again. Wanting to make every action taken into a crime, every word you say, make someone pay, taxpayer or vicarious, no matter, just as as long as ‘closure’ is obtained. Is ‘closure’ the new orgasm perhaps?
- Ho Hum
June 13, 2014 at 9:37 am -
If it is, a foreclosure will be an orgy. Lawyers, once again proving themselves able to get something out of absolutely anything, and bailiffs of the world, unite…
- Ho Hum
- erichardcastle
June 13, 2014 at 10:51 am -
There is a fortune to be made by setting up the Sexual Agreement Website. A couple can log-on and in privacy film their intentions via their smartphones : that the act about to take place is consensual. Possibly with all intimate details noted as to what is acceptable etc.
They can even post-coital give comments (but quickly as we all know melancholia can overtake either male or female).
This can be done in private and not for public consumption but stored for the future : even 10/20/30 years down the track. ( a copy to your lawyer!)
It WILL happen. I think we should form a consortium and hire some Chinese/Indian IT experts to get the ball rolling.
- Ergathones the Philosopher
July 26, 2014 at 1:00 am -
Spotted this petition being shared by a couple of Facebook friends this evening and immediately thought back to this column… it seems that the latest target for the crusaders is an 8-year-old NHS/Home Office poster issued as part of the “Know Your Limits” campaign…
Even stating the statistics seems to be construed as misogynistic these days…
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