The Comfort Eating Gender?
My first impression of Edinburgh was one of being overwhelmed by the sheer scale – not just of the buildings, but the people, particularly the women.
I live in a part of France where the average height for women is around 5′ 3″, and a hand spun waist is still de rigueur. At 6′ tall, and a healthy size 12 I’m used to feeling like Gulliver amongst the Lilliputians. Stepping out of Haymarket station, I had shrunk, suddenly I was a Lilliputian in a city of Gullivers. It was a curious feeling. The buildings towered over me, the women expanded exponentially, the cars were enormous. It is quite illogical, on evolutionary grounds, that as the island becomes more crowded, so should the people and the vehicles have required more space….
There is some obesity in France, whisper it quietly, but it is said that the average ‘obesity level’ has increased in direct proportion to the number of citizens from other continents who have arrived. Certainly there is little evidence of the traditional Aquitainois mademoiselle losing her love of a lunch comprised of lettuce leaves and thus her minute waist. You would have to catch her sitting round a table with her work colleagues in a local restaurant to even see her eating – in Edinburgh, I found myself playing ‘spot the one who isn’t eating’.
They waddled towards me, teeth embedded in an entire baguette filled with half a Gloucester Old Spot, which apparently passes for a sandwich in these parts. Ten minutes before the next train? Time to shift a gargantuan slice of Pizza and a pint of frothy coffee! They clambered onto buses and unpacked the ‘supplies’ to sustain themselves before their stop two streets down the line. They sat on pigeon crap encrusted walls and munched Big Macs with grim determination. It was positively obsessive.
On the Sunday morning, I wandered out of my host’s house in search of my treat for the week – real Sunday papers! A gentle stroll past the wonderful Georgian houses, and I arrived in a world of cobbled streets and a small fishing port. Bliss! Perhaps fifteen minutes from door to destination. I was so busy taking in the early morning scene that I lost my sense of direction, and finding the newsagent, I asked the best way to get back to ‘x’ street. ‘There’s a bus in about ten minutes he said’. ‘No, I’m walking’ – ‘Are you? Well done you!’ said he incredulously, ‘it’s a good half a mile from here’.
It is unfair to single out the ladies of Edinburgh; the Lancet has today published a report showing that ‘British’ girls are the fattest in Europe. There are various reasons given for ‘why’. They are mainly vulnerable victims of the evil food producers who put too much sugar in their nosh-bags, naturally; followed by ‘it’s the austerity cuts’ – they can’t afford healthy food; tailing off to the ‘bullying effect’ of peer pressure on teenage girls. The solutions include using the money saved by not allowing expensive cancer drugs for the elderly to pay for the ladies to attend ‘Weight Watchers’ and various fat ‘boot camps’.
Nobody is suggesting that the Tamworth Tankettes (Tamworth officially has the most overweight women in the Kingdom) eat less, or just eat at meal times, or cook their own meals – not adding sugar!
As a nation, Britain has a more diverse range of restaurants than anywhere else in Europe. We have taken to ‘foreign food’ with gusto. Actually, we’ve taken to anything edible ‘with gusto’, that is the problem. Except our concept of ‘foreign food’ is slightly askew. We loved the Italian Pasta – the festival, celebratory variety, loaded with goodies, that we enjoyed on holiday. Trouble is, the average Italian doesn’t eat like that every night – they might have pasta with just some garlic and a little olive oil; not half a kilo of cheap meat stewed in a ready made sugary sauce. We love Indian food; go to India, eat with a local family – you won’t be eating the food prepared by the travelling Sylhet chefs who populate English Indian restaurants, their speciality was preparing wedding feasts; instead you may find yourself eating the ubiquitous ‘rice and peas’.
Why have we taken to using the medical term ‘obese’ – are we determined to prove that plain old ‘fat’ is actually a medical condition? True, there is a thyroid condition which can cause you to become overweight. There is a simple solution. Thyroid replacement tablets. No need to eat at the ‘all you can stuff’ bar and tell your friends that you have a medical condition.
It is certainly a medical problem for the East Midlands Ambulance Service. It has been picking up so many fat patients — weighing in excess of the 28-stone maximum — that it needed a new fleet. It had been struggling along with just one ambulance for fatties (a ‘bariatric’ vehicle), but now all 272 of its ambulances have been upgraded with double-wide stretchers for patients who can weigh in at 55 stone. It cost £27 million.
The on-line ‘Bariatric Shop’ will dispatch an emergency pack containing five pairs of knickers to desperate NHS staff who have recently taken delivery of a knickerless 55 stone wonderwomen – and it will only cost the rest of us £94.75, presumably plus delivery costs. (Warning: do not follow that link in the middle of your breakfast – you will be anorexic by the end of the day).
Doctors have been told not to use the word ‘fat’ because it may cause distress. We are told that food banks are increasing because the nation is starving. Not starving efficiently enough if the rest of us are going to work to pay the taxes needed for £100 quids worth of knickers when one of the Tamworth Tankettes turns up in A & E thinking she’s the Duchess of Cambridge…
Jeez Ladies, 57% of you obese? Eat lettuce! Walk to the newsagent! Take some responsibility for yourselves. In the meantime, give the bikinis a miss.
Meanwhile, would somebody please shoot this manufacturer before his product turns up on a beach near me? A size 28/30 Tankini? Grief. It has a fold over waist? I don’t think I want to witness a size 30 lady waddling along the Plage d’Arcachon with her waist folded over into anything, let alone a Tankini….
- Lucozade
May 29, 2014 at 9:20 am -
Only in the last couple of years have I really started to notice so many *huge* women in Scotland, it’s sad because I doubt whether these people are happy at that size. I need to lose a lot of weight myself, when I was over in Germany I felt absolutely humongous – but then when I got back to Scotland and comparing myself to some of the women there I started thinking ‘i’m not really *that* fat, am I?’, lol…
- ivan
May 29, 2014 at 9:19 pm -
Lucozade, if you want to loose weight by getting some healthy exercise the way is simple, get a black and white Newfoundland and teach him that a short stroll is 2 kilometers round the district. He will then take you out every day no matter what the weather and, if necessary, drag you along at least that is what mine does. As for going for a walk that is at least 6 kilometers or, if it is a nice day 10. It does keep you fit – I can still do a fast walk up my road without puffing and panting whereas most of the youngsters have to stop half way up to get their breath back.
- Lucozade
May 30, 2014 at 6:16 am -
@ivan
If it keeps him fit it’ll keep you fit too…
- Lucozade
- ivan
- Ed P
May 29, 2014 at 9:26 am -
Is it just women, or are there any fat men about (apart from me)?
Maybe the bariatric ambulances should install liposuction kit? Then by the time they’ve rolled/waddled to A&E, the “lump” could have been relieved of 20 to 30kg of unsightly fat.
- Robert the Biker
May 29, 2014 at 9:50 am -
Possibly we could employ the ‘try works’ off a whaler and just render some of them for the oil!
- Ed P
May 29, 2014 at 9:54 am -
The lipo output could go straight into the ambulance’s diesel tank – a new way of paying for the transport. This could work for taxis too…
- Robert the Biker
May 29, 2014 at 10:22 am -
Hmmm…
“Mr Kipling does make exceedingly good Bio Fuel”
Yes, has a certain ring to it! : )- Frankie
May 29, 2014 at 8:48 pm -
Now we know ‘who ate all the pies’ (and all the scotch eggs, deep fried Mars bars etc.)…
- Frankie
- Robert the Biker
- Ed P
- Robert the Biker
- Chris
May 29, 2014 at 9:34 am -
Alas, the UK has adopted all of the USA’s social vices – and that includes the obese ‘trailer trash’ most Brits thought so novel 25/30 years ago.
Females are encouraged to indulge in ‘treats’. Even most patented diets fail because they encourage occasional sugary treats ‘to reward yourself’. The increase in domestic alcohol consumption hardly helps either – wine on top of sugary bottled ‘tramp juice’ cider tends to cancel out the effects of any diet.
It’s all really come about due to ‘Americanisation’ of Britain and the resultant ‘dumbing down’ – when tales of the scummy underclass on sink estates are relayed to the nation daily by Daytime ITV & trash media people tend to accept these things as norm. And Yanks the size of Tanks have been a feature of their garbage TV for decades. Low self-esteem a-go-go.- Mudplugger
May 29, 2014 at 11:17 am -
I suspect that in Britain we’ve acquired a ‘perfect storm’.
We’ve enthusiastically imported the worst of the American fast-food elements, add that to our excessive social drinking, base it on a traditional diet aimed at sustaining the industrial classes, and then add the elimination of hard, daily, physical work, replacing it with more sedentary occupations and a culture of home-based spectating-only entertainment.
Taken together, that’s a recipe for obesity which only the most determined may find the will to resist.
It’s not about poverty, more about education and will-power – I fear that neither will be successfully addressed, so the human lard-mountains will continue expand in girth and numbers.- JuliaM
May 29, 2014 at 11:27 am -
Add to that the ‘instant gratification’ outlook. No-one waits for anything any more.
- JuliaM
- Mudplugger
- The Slog
May 29, 2014 at 9:41 am -
It is Tamworth Manfesto II – This time it’s a Gender Agenda.
Ye shadd never wish ti see
The High Tea plate in old Dundee
Far too high for poor old me
och, if only Scots cidd see
we Pippa’s arse – a tiny circle –
thid nae ha’ bums
like Geli MerkelE J Sloganacul
- Woman on a Raft
May 29, 2014 at 5:42 pm -
Bravo.
- Woman on a Raft
- Engineer
May 29, 2014 at 9:53 am -
Jasper Carrott nailed it about 25 years ago; pointing appropriately, “This hole bigger than this hole.”
Bring back Domestic Science at school – get the nation cooking it’s own food again. Many people eat junk because they don’t know how to prepare decent food.
- JuliaM
May 29, 2014 at 11:25 am -
‘Don’t know how’..? Or rather ‘can’t be arsed’..?
- Engineer
May 29, 2014 at 12:41 pm -
Almost certainly an element of that, of course. However, there’s also an element of ‘total cost’ to consider. If you live in straightened circumstances in an Edinburgh/Glasgow tower block, the cost of electricity or gas for cooking may be significant. By the time you’ve bought meat and vegetables, and had the cooker on for a couple of hours for a slow-cooked stew, the total cost cost could exceed that of fast food. Cookers are not cheap to run day in day out.
Once one generation loses the means and knowledge to supply the family with home-cooked food, and the children grow up fed on microwave meals and burgers, you have a vicious circle.
So – higher energy costs (partly inflated by ‘green taxes’) affect the poor disproportionately in more ways than one. The ultimate cost to the public purse of inflated healthcare costs tomorrow could exceed the additional revenue collected on electricity and gas today. The greater good of the British population would be better served by lower energy costs.
- Don Cox
May 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm -
If you turn the gas down as far as it will go without going out, the comsumption is quite small.
Slow cookers are a good alternative.
- Don Cox
- Engineer
- JuliaM
- Robert the Biker
May 29, 2014 at 9:57 am -
I do wonder at this Anna. Having worked in France (Paris) as late as January, I did not notice the average woman there being that svelte; some of the office girls were little crackers, but some are here too.
I believe a lot of this is our beloved nanny state trying to make us feel guilty about taking any pleasure; no booze, no fags, no fat, no sugar etc. because nanny knows best and just SHUT UP you horrible porker. Look, here’s a picture of some fat pie-eating bastard, quick, give us more money to harangue you! The French would not stand for it the same, Hollande is not exactly trim, nor were many of the men I worked with over there.- Engineer
May 29, 2014 at 10:20 am -
There’s nothing wrong with fat, pies, pasties, puddings and all that – they’re some of the glories of British cuisine (Lardy cake – mmm). Just not three times a day, that’s all.
I wonder ifthe nation is suffering from too many burger outlets at one end of the scale, and too much Food Porn on telly at the other? Perhaps we need a return to fish’n’chip shops and Delia telling us how to boil an egg and make a pan of vegetable soup.
- Lucozade
May 29, 2014 at 10:33 am -
Robert the Biker,
One of our French assistants at school was a dumpy short, almost dwarf like woman, lol.
But last time I was in Germany I did notice a stark contrast between the amount of overweight women in Glasgow compared to those in Munich. There are loads in Glasgow and I saw hardly any in Munich, and even if some in Munich could have been a little overweight, there were none anywhere near the size that seems to be becoming quite frequent in Glasgow, although on the other hand you see a lost of gaunt stick women in Glasgow too – but also a very high number of extremely obese people. Though i’ve not heard any horror stories of someone having to have their wall broken down to be taken to hospital just yet – touch wood…
- Mr Wray
May 29, 2014 at 10:38 am -
But if you lived in Glasgow and were poor and knew there was no escape wouldn’t you comfort eat and drink yourself comatose every night?
- Lucozade
May 29, 2014 at 11:18 am -
Mr Wray,
Only if you don’t know it could be worse.
I’ve lived somewhere worse than Glasgow so I can count my blessings, lol…
- DisenfranchisedOfBuckingham
May 29, 2014 at 12:47 pm -
???
Poor people can’t afford to eat too much or drink themselves comatose every night. If you can afford that or Sky you ain’t poor – just thick.
- Lucozade
May 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm -
DisenfranchisedOfBuckingham,
Re: “Poor people can’t afford to eat too much or drink themselves comatose every night. If you can afford that or Sky you ain’t poor – just thick”
Exactly – drink is very expensive if you can afford to do that every night, you could probably afford to take yourself off for a nice holiday with the money you’d save if you stopped doing that every night…
- Lucozade
- Lucozade
- Mr Wray
- Engineer
- Ho Hum
May 29, 2014 at 10:13 am -
The Scots diet has never been that good. I hate to think of what I ate when younger. If I try the same now, I really do feel quite I’ll. But I was never more than 9.5 stone till after I left there, and my work, leisure and travel environments changed – walked everywhere, compact town, all day hill walks, nothing like that here, and no car, who hasn’t got one now? It was what you did with what you input that made the difference and that has changed beyond all recognition for this generation
- JuliaM
May 29, 2014 at 11:15 am -
“They waddled towards me, teeth embedded in an entire baguette filled with half a Gloucester Old Spot, which apparently passes for a sandwich in these parts. Ten minutes before the next train? Time to shift a gargantuan slice of Pizza and a pint of frothy coffee! They clambered onto buses and unpacked the ‘supplies’ to sustain themselves before their stop two streets down the line.”
This, I still cannot understand. I must be from the generation where eating in public was frowned upon. And as for public transport, well, an inter-city train, maybe, but a commute to/from work? Who gets THAT hungry?
- Mudplugger
May 29, 2014 at 11:19 am -
But who gets that thirsty they need a plastic cup of over-priced Costa to sustain them while out of doors or between home and work ? Another symptom.
- KevinS
May 29, 2014 at 1:19 pm -
They are following the example of the soaps where the characters go to the local cafe (next door but two) for a cup of tea and something to eat while they gossip, then go straight home for a meal and a cup of tea.
- KevinS
- macheath
May 29, 2014 at 1:11 pm -
There has definitely been a shifting of UK cultural norms; my grandparents, whose backgrounds ranged from minor Scottish aristocracy to respectable London working class, reacted with unanimous horror to the idea of eating in the street. As a child, I had this taboo so thoroughly instilled that, even now, eating while walking along the street would be as unthinkable as removing my clothes in the middle of the town square (admittedly, I actually did that once when a hornet flew down my neck, but that’s another story).
One thing that strikes me about France is the comparative lack of universal ‘hand-held’ confectionery; chocolate comes in flat 100g bars and sweets in family-sized packets, while bakeries package their wares in cardboard clearly designed to be carried home. There is certainly a culture of ‘treat’ chocolate bars for children but these are, by British standards, tiny and clearly associated with the under-10s market; chocolate aimed at grown-ups, by comparison, is usually dark and clearly intended to be consumed with moderation in a social setting.
I suppose it all comes back to that demand for instant gratification combined with an increasingly infantilised population.
- guthrie
June 3, 2014 at 7:10 pm -
Ah, but did the demand for instant gratification come before hand held confectionary or after it…
Certainly shops and sweetie manufacturers have done their absolute best to make sure that people can access sweet (but not so cheep these days, I notice they’ve changed 4 packs to 3 packs of crunchie, bounty etc) gratification as often and easily as possible. Perhaps a small obstacle course should be introduced before you can reach the sweets.
- guthrie
- Mudplugger
- Joe Public
May 29, 2014 at 11:46 am -
When the national delicacy is Deep-fried Mars bar, what else was expected?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_Mars_bar
And then grant-funds were made available to Robert Gordon University, Aberdeen:
“Researchers at the university have completed a study that addresses the link between climate change and obesity.”
https://www.rgu.ac.uk/news/researchers-suggest-link-between-obesity-and-global-warming
- Mudplugger
May 29, 2014 at 3:33 pm -
I suppose the keener dieters will choose the Deep-fried Milky Way, “The sweet you can eat without ruining your appetite”, as the old slogan went. But nothing quite like a Deep-fried Curly-Wurly, so much more batter-value for your bawbees.
- Pericles
May 30, 2014 at 12:09 pm -
Quite apart from the trivial nature of the research (which was Joe’s point), it is predicated upon the assumption that carbon-dioxide is a ‘greenhouse’ gas; yet the available data, whilst indicating a correlation between global temperature and atmospheric carbon-dioxide concentration, suggest that it’s actually the temperature change that gives rise to the change in gas concentration!
Unless you subscribe to a school of philosophy that admits the possibility of cause’s following effect by about three-quarters of a millennium, you’ll have trouble convincing a thinking person that carbon-dioxide is ‘causing global warming’ — even when warming is actually in progress.
ΠΞ
- guthrie
June 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm -
Unfortunately the data you are talking about is for the end of ice ages, i.e. many thousands of years ago, not the present. To describe it properly, the temperature rise leading to increased CO2 conc is a positive feedback. The only folk who think that cause and effect spread out over millenia are those who claim that global temperatures are rising because we’re still coming out of the little ice age which actually ended several centuries ago.
- guthrie
- Mudplugger
- Rightwinggit
May 29, 2014 at 12:49 pm -
When I meet a porker who tells me they’ve got a slow metabolism, my response is is usually something along the lines of;
“Yeah, and a fast pie arm.” - Oi you
May 29, 2014 at 3:39 pm -
I was recently in Tamworth. I was shocked at how the place had changed since the last time I’d visited (about 20 years ago) mostly due to the amount of supermarkets (almost one on every street corner) and a huge retail park, with yet more supermarkets, just outside the town. What little character the town has, has been swamped, the town centre now consisting of charity shops and cut-price stores. I’m surprised the ‘normal’ shops such as grocers and butchers have survived with the amount of competition. I felt constantly under bombardment while I was there, to buy, buy, buy. Even the locals seem more stressed than what I remember. Everybody has the latest gadget and gizmo you can think of, complete with car (or two). It seems we have embraced all this modernisation and consumerism, but at what cost? Our quality of life seems lamentably low, with everybody on statins for high blood pressure or prozac for depression. No wonder we are eating and drinking more than we should.
- Tedioustantrums
May 29, 2014 at 3:45 pm -
Deep fried Mars bars…. More of a myth than a reality.
Scottish grannies were sorted with food. Eat a balanced diet. Simple. The along came the nanny state probably around 40 years ago. Better to eat carbs and starchy foods. This was the opposite of what people had been eating. Not to mention significant changes to work. It used to be a heart breakfast, a real lunch and an evening meal because people worked manually. Now it’s sit on your arse in front of a screen.
No coincidence that nanny said the same things in the USA and like everything else that is a fad there it ends up a fad here too.
Nanny is to blame. Always behind the scenes directing.
- Joe Public
May 29, 2014 at 4:11 pm -
Ah, in the old days when the Scottish diet was healthier, advertising hoardings in towns and railway stations proclaimed “Mrs. McCrindle gets her oats at the Co-op”
Produced in an era of double-entendre naivety.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debate/?id=1987-10-22a.913.7
- Tedioustantrums
May 29, 2014 at 10:23 pm -
If you have missed the Irn Bru advert when a guy is at his wife’s bedside and she discussing with her Mother the best name for the new wee girl, search for it on you tube. Very funny.
- Tedioustantrums
- Don Cox
May 29, 2014 at 7:15 pm -
I wonder if central heating and double glazing are (at least partly) to blame. Much of what you eat goes to keep you warm, and Edinburgh houses used to be very cold indeed.
Nowadays they are probably quite snug, so the occupants no longer need so many calories, but they are eating as much as ever.
Another possibility is that people are eating as a replacement for smoking.
- Tedioustantrums
May 29, 2014 at 10:21 pm -
Probably. But better than waking up with frost on the inside if the windows or sharing your sleeping space with a parafin stove.
- Tedioustantrums
- Joe Public
- jaded48
May 29, 2014 at 3:49 pm -
I always wondered what you looked like Anna-nice pink top,very flattering………
- Moor Larkin
May 29, 2014 at 4:38 pm -
I was struck by the top picture, thinking how hardy those Scots girls must be to dress that way, and it was only just May!!
Did find this blog about Edinburgh zoo as a result of all this though, which made me think there might be another historical child abuse epidemic waiting in the wings. I daresay that by then, I might be in the burgers myself. Nothing as green as Soylent Green.
http://darklochnagar.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/2-giant-pandas-toe-mee-and-gay-eel.html- binao
May 29, 2014 at 5:20 pm -
Ah, Moor, Soylent Green, unknown to many, still to come.
There are plenty of healthy local meals; as a southern Jessie moving to Bolton in the ’70s I was intrigued by the queues outside the chippies, people carrying a dish for their pie, chips, mushy peas and gravy, the latter two being in huge pans on a cooker hob behind the counter. Every inquiry I made as to pie contents was met with the same response ‘meeeat’. Never did find out what.
And a year or three later, now in Glasgow chippies, for haggis (just babies judging by the size), and white puddens, both in batter. Then to Agnews to queue at the wire security cage for a 4 pack of McEwans to cleanse the palate
Such times.- Ho Hum
May 30, 2014 at 12:14 am -
I was cooking when I read that, and right then I would have traded everything I was doing for a white pudding supper, wrapped in white paper and last week’s local rag, from the chipper based in the converted bus that used to sit on the rough patch of ground at the edge of the square about 250 yards from our home. Thanks for rekindling a great, long lost, memory
- Lucozade
May 30, 2014 at 6:33 am -
Ho Hum,
White pudding, yum…
- binao
May 30, 2014 at 1:30 pm -
Just thinking back to life in Glasgow brought back the memory of those miserable dark & wet Sunday mornings, made so much more bearable by a late breakfast of sliced fried haggis with two fried eggs with runny yolks.
The clatter of the letterbox within minutes of those thoughts brought an appointment letter for a cardiac monitor fitting.
Surely no connection?
- binao
- Lucozade
- Ho Hum
- binao
- Moor Larkin
- Ms Mildred
May 30, 2014 at 8:30 am -
Those 4 fat ladies would not feel so pleased with themselves if they were on their own posing. I call them aisle blockers or wallopers. My brother, being a retired tanker driver’ calls them ROLLING ROAD BLOCKS. It is probably true to say, the more fatties there are to be seen around, the less we individually worry about weight gain.
- Roderick
May 30, 2014 at 11:33 am -
I’m not so sure about the supposedly healthier eating habits in the past.
I was a student at Edinburgh in the 1970s, and remember being amazed, in Princes Street and its environs, by the fact that almost every second shop seemed to be a bakery selling cakes. The locals would buy a bag, then happily walk along munching at the contents. And if they got tired of walking, there was always a tea-shop nearby in which one could munch seated.
If the intake of calories hasn’t changed much over the years, then clearly the increase in obesity is due to people taking less exercise than before. Daytime TV has a lot to answer for, imho.
- Cloudberry
September 16, 2014 at 6:17 pm -
Oof…! And the bikini briefs are sold out! I hadn’t noticed people in Edinburgh were that fat, but I haven’t been there in ages.
Perhaps they should be added to this list:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/an-edinburgh-list-1245038.html
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