Is it ‘cos I’s Black?
Two days ago we had the farce of searching South London for a 25 stone Afro-Caribbean woman based on the sole information being that she had a mole under her eye. Narry a mention of the fact that she was distinguished from the rest of the happy shoppers by the being the size of a small school bus and a different colour from 90% of the population.
Today we learn that for 12 years we have been looking for a 52 year old Afro-Caribbean based on this photograph which by any stretch of the imagination suggests a white male aged between 20 and 30. Any suggestion of Afro-Caribbean features have been air-brushed out of existence.
We all have distinguishing features, that is what the phrase means – distinguishing, different from some others.
Are we to assume that the next time the Police are looking for a 25 year old white male they will be issuing a photo-fit that looks remarkably like a 52 year old Afro-Caribbean, just to fool us all?
This man is now charged with the despicable rape of several elderly men and women aged between 68 and 93. He has been operating in the same small area of South London for 12 years. The Police had a DNA sample which told them that almost certainly the suspect was from the Windward Islands in the Caribbean. They knew that his genetic make-up was 70% sub-Saharan African. They knew that it was inconceivable that he would have the delicate northern European features and light skin shown in the photo-fit.
I simply don’t believe that not one of those elderly people had managed to give a description that failed to identify him as being part of 10% of the population of London.
If it is felt to be racist to correctly signal to those looking for him that the man – or woman – is Afro-Caribbean, then that renders every other photo-fit as racist.
Next time there is a major outrage in London involving the Police, let us hear the new description.
‘A person shot a police officer this afternoon’.
We are not going to tell you what sex they are – that would be sexist.
We are not going to tell you what colour they are – that would be racist.
We are not going to tell you which religious building they emerged from – that would be religionist.
We are not going to tell you if they have any missing limbs or other distinguishing features – that would be disablist.
We are not going to tell you what they were wearing – that might identify their nationality.
Nor will we tell you they looked like Danny La Rue in drag – could be homophobic.
They are however, very dangerous, and your life could be at risk if you meet them on a dark night.
The Macpherson report has a lot to answer for.
5 rapes and 6 indecent assaults of elderly people in the twilight of their life for a start.
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November 16, 2009 at 11:00 -
Interesting – but what is the legal status of a victim’s (or a witness’s) description of the perpetrator?
If I am the witness to, say, a mugging, and I call the police and tell them the attacker was “black, about six-feet-three-inches tall, aged about 25-30, of slender build, and wearing a red t-shirt and faded denim jeans” are they not LEGALLY bound to act on that?
If they issue a description to the public, and it doesn’t mention one of those key facts, can I take legal action against THEM?
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November 16, 2009 at 11:02 -
How dare you suggest that all of the gays strut around looking like Danny La Rue in drag, that gives gay men a bad name – its a visit by the PC police for you Anna.
Don’t you know that you have also upset female gays who don’t dress up in drag, especially La Rue style. Phew, you’ve been sexist and homophobic is one fell swoop.
Seriously, your article is spot on, the photofit looked like a caucasian male in his 30’s, but hey, looking on the lighter side (no pun intended) at least we could rule out women as potential suspects. For this case, anyway!
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November 16, 2009 at 11:43 -
Surely it’s far better to endanger lives than to risk offending anyone? If these were white fugitives it wouldn’t matter of course.
It’s this sort of blatant manipulation of the news that offends people and drives them to the BNP. It’s so clumsy, transparent and above all counter produtive. -
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November 16, 2009 at 11:49 -
Dave, is it true that the Somali pirates who kidnapped the British couple have been accurately described as six homo sapiens?
At least that will save the authorities from wasting time by taking the local dolphins into custody. Flipper, you’re safe … for now!
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November 16, 2009 at 12:46 -
Off topic it’s true but I cannot believe that armed British sailors were just fifty feet away from the Somali pirates and they weren’t allowed to shoot in case they hit the hostages or the pirates killed the hostages in reprisal. Christ even the French shoot pirates to free their nationals.
Why didn’t they simply sink the boat, save the hostages and let the sharks have the pirates?Apologies Anna but I’ve just read this ‘news’ prior to landing here.
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November 16, 2009 at 14:14 -
It’s about time all this total bollocks about black, white, half-caste, etc., was stopped. Let’s once and for all describe people as they look – even calling them (in my case at least) a bit ugly and pale!
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November 16, 2009 at 14:40 -
The photofit looks quite like a young lady down at the health shop. She has red hair and freckles.
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November 16, 2009 at 14:41 -
I think you have missed the real ‘racist’ element to this whole despicable episode.
The rapist was black. His victims were white.
Now just try that on for size with the roles reversed and imagine the Righteous ‘outcry’ that would ensue.
Are the Dhimmi police ’service’ treating this as a racist crime ? Aee they fook ?
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November 16, 2009 at 14:52 -
Anonymouse is spot on. No news networks seem able to reporting facts any more, the actual news has to pass through a “lets not upset community cohesion” filter. Oh, with the exception of placard waving extremists who can pretty much say what they like!!!
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November 16, 2009 at 16:20 -
Oh dear, from the photos I was reminded of Muslims and burqas.
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November 16, 2009 at 16:48 -
Anna, I just found this article by accidently. I find your commentary interesting. If I am remembering correctly, according to old news articles Grant appearance was described as a light skinned black male. This suggests to me, it is highly probable Grant phenotype is markedly different from the average Afro-Caribbean person. This does make logical sense to me because Grant is only 70% sub-Saharan DNA, which means he has significant European or non African ancestry. This may or may not account for his European facial appearance in the photo. And some men look quite feminine.
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November 16, 2009 at 17:06 -
Logic sounds to me like a Zanu-Labour apparatchik trying to spread ‘community cohesion’ online – at the expense of truth.
In most reports the assailant was decsribed as having a typically Leroy-like ‘wide nose’.
The dude in the photo-fit looks more like Grant Mitchell than a ‘brother’.
But then again, that’s the whole point isn’t it. The Dhimmi police farce are just as crippled by political correctness as any other public institution these days.
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November 16, 2009 at 17:23 -
Anonymouse, explain how I sound like Zanu-Labour apparatchik trying to spread ‘community cohesion’ online – at the expense of truth?
I have obviously rattled to you!
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November 16, 2009 at 19:09 -
*APPLAUSE*
What a ridiculous PC position – mind you, how someone who weighed in at 25st and 5′ nothing escaped her guards had me gaping.
Were they filling in a risk assessment first?
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November 16, 2009 at 19:22 -
Was it <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Close-up_of_mole.jpg"<this sort of mole under her eye?
I was suprised when reports about the Romford Explorer Scouts shouts death threats at Jewish Ex-Servicemen did not include the ethnic/religious origin of the alleged offenders. Then I read that the threats were made within yards of a Police Inspector. 2 + 2 = 5? -
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November 16, 2009 at 19:23 -
Sorry, I’ve mucked up the hyperlink above.
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November 16, 2009 at 19:25 -
Plato says: “….mind you, how someone who weighed in at 25st and 5′ nothing escaped her guards had me gaping. …”
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Hefty women can be surprisingly agile when the mood takes them – just nip into Primark when it’s “Everything £2!!!” Day and you’ll find the place is a flurry of stout limbs… -
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November 16, 2009 at 19:52 -
Yes, I thought it was about Burkas. I was just about to start screaming for the banning of them
Who knows how many terrorists are lurking around wearing them. You can’t tell what colour they are.
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November 16, 2009 at 20:10 -
Good post, but, just to be picky, the non-white population of London is significantly higher than one in ten. That is the national figure, bearing in mind all the areas that are yet to ‘benefit’ from multi-culturalism.
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November 16, 2009 at 21:51 -
WOW..
you guys have lost your country.. thats for sure.to depict to the public a scetch of a white male, WHICH THAT OBVIOUSLY IS.. when your police KNOW the offender of unspeakable crimes (this is not a ‘’stereo stolen from a parked car” mundane case) ..
is absolute MALPRACTICE. The ceif who authorized this should be stripped of his pension, fired, and sent packing along with all his subordinates who went along with this falsification.
if a white commits horrific crimes..SHOW HIM
If a black man commits horrific crimes..SHOW HIM.but do not alter the serial perpetrator to allow him to rack up a hundred defenseless victims.
the police who released that sketch are CO-OFFENDERS who deserve a trial and lengthy prison sentence for enabling this guy to go undetected by their deliberate malpractice…LASTLY- there is no ”WINDWARD ISLANDS DNA” Haplogroup.. thats a ever bigger lie than the white guy sketch they released to allow the offender to carry on, undetected.
The DNA Hg that would proliferate in the winward isles would be E3a or a minority of Hg ‘A’, which are both sub-saharan african DNA that would be indistinguisable from any other african clade of the Hg’s, on the continent of africa.
the windward isles population is transplanted AFRICAN, so trying to describe his DNA Hg type as ”Windward Isles” is a deliberate LIE to avoid saying what the Hg’s REALLY ARE, which is SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN ORIGIN.
The african population in the carribean did not develop new Hg’s, that take tens of thousands of years to split, in the past 250 years that they have been transplanted to the carribean… they still have bantu/s.s. african Dna haplotypes.this whole case was enabled and allowed to progress, and victimise the most defenseless of victims by DELIBERATE OBFUSCATION and police misconduct for the sole reason that they are too scared/intimidated/or undermined to identify the offender of a horrific crime AS A BLACK MAN.
FIRING these cops is not enough,.. there need to be police supervisors, a chief, a mayor, prosecutors, and possibly labor party officials FACING TRIAL for this pattern of criminal deception they CHOSE to engage in.
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November 17, 2009 at 01:03 -
hi anna-can i correct you factually-assuming what i just read is accurate [on other sites] his victims were all white elderly women -you didnt mention they were all white and thus he is a racist rapist -assuming what i have read is true-plus i read hes not the first-there have been many black racist rapists before in the uk.
also i described his photo-fit picture as looking younger than my 21 yr old nephew and white also so i dispute he looks like he could possibly be 30 -how does such crazy political correctness help to be aware or even help with identifying such dangerous criminals-who live on estates like mine-not the sorts of places mps.judges,civil servant law makers,lords,top cops and media collumnists live-luckily for them.
in his photo-fit he has no negro features-a white complexion and looks like a very skinny teenager.
i wish to be aware of the black contribution to our society-simply as an indigenous poor englishman-both proud and fearful and wishing to be informed to make best judgements -so why am i denied my rights to honest journalism and transparency in law-forming etc etc-i seem to spend all my time whilst watching the news trying to work out if the thieves,rapists,muderers and terrorists are pakistani,black,asian or white-invariably and disproportionally they are not white and if this were not the case they would make it clear always-they certainly never seem to protect the white majority from black or asian scrutiny-and if us whites were not born guilty then whites would have rights to racist laws and men would also have rights to sexist laws and then jermain greer could be locked up for espousing all men should be castrated at birth and all the other things she has been quoted saying -anyway i will never bother looking at photo-fits again now i realise they are designed to mislead us the public -i think political correctness is despicable and positive discrimination is one of its undefendable methods of corrupting our society-locking up criminals does keep people on estates like mine safer -but as no upper middle class toffs who make the laws live or even visit estates like mine they are totally unaware of that fact-assuming criminals live off shore or something when they are not sent to prison or released early-i havent even seen a copper on my estate for about 3 months and my estate is crawling with criminals and even worse with highly abusive 7 yr olds who run wild till about 10pm-the white working class and especially men are invisible on television and apparently hated not just neglected by the government and yet all these efforts are spent to protect a 52 yr old rascist black serial rapist from being identified either by photo-fit or report or by news video footage and commentary -implying he is worthy of such protection. -
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November 17, 2009 at 07:36 -
As a commenter ovver at my site pointed out, it’s very different when the police want to locate a witness: “Police are appealing for two witnesses to come forward – the woman who stopped to help and a young black boy who asked about the victim’s health at the scene but had gone when police arrived.
Detective stressed that he is a witness, not a suspect.”
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November 17, 2009 at 21:55 -
Do we know how old that e-fit is? If this guy has been raping people for 19 years it could have been created while in his early thirties to early forties. If the e-fit is as old as that then yes shame on the police for not updating it and aging it. If it is a recent e-fit, then it is certainly misleading with regard to his age and why did people on the case not highlight this obvious flaw over the 19 years? I mean the case must have had more than its fair share of turnover of staff.
Although, if he assaulted people (probably short sighted and without their specs on as they were in bed sleeping) at night, just awoken and confused, in complete darkness, maybe the victims couldnt identify his skin tone other than ‘he wasnt white’. It doesnt sound like the police had much of a clue as to what his genetic roots were (i.e. black/hispanic/asian) until they tested his DNA for his ‘race roots’ and that could be the major mistake which has bit the investigation on the arse. Black men are not casebook/’stereotypical’ serial rapists so maybe the police discounted that notion? Again their mistake.
I think also its a bit early to decide what his facial features are based on a 70% sub saharan genetic make up. It would be interesting to take similar ‘models’ and see how they vary. The guy is definitely black however – see pic hereI just cant see that the police would systematically cover up this guys race over 19 years to be seen to be PC while they were stopping and searching young black males on a regular basis throughout the 90’s. Especially when potentially those victims could be any one of those police officers mothers/grandmothers.
Just an aside – do we know the race of his victims?
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November 17, 2009 at 22:22 -
Ok I have since read that he has been identified as a black male in the investigation for some time and that his victims were mainly white (but this is so far conjecture as far as I can see – please feel free to prove otherwise to me) – and again if this is the case… why wasnt that e-fit dismissed?
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November 18, 2009 at 17:12 -
Not all black people have broad features! And I think is ignorant to think so! I dont know where you people live but if any of you are from London you will know this. Many black people, including myself have what is desribed as ‘european features’ because there are so many mixes these days (and going back hundreds of years – i wont remind you why right now) and whilst the DNA said he was 70% African – that still leaves 30%. Many black people are light skinned – we come in all different shades – so please stop assuming that you are being misled about his appearance because he is described as a light skinned male and you feel he has delicate features – it is possible.
There is good and bad in all; white people rape people, asian people rape people and black people rape people. I cannot say whether or not this man was a racist rapist – i wont speculate, however I agree that his crimes were disgusting and I for one am glad that they have caught him.
The person who stated that most crimes are commited by black people – needs to get with the programme. If you want to look at certain high profile cases Baby P being one of them, The murders of the two French students by Dano Sonnex and Nigel Farmer….I could name so many, but I wont because in your head black people commit crime and thats it. But think before you speak and if anyone is racist – look again at your own views and ignorance.
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November 18, 2009 at 17:18 -
Could I, at the risk of being labelled a pedant, ask that Caribbean be spelt correctly?
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November 18, 2009 at 21:49 -
Anna In your posting at 7.43 above. Elsewhere it is fine…apologies for being picky. You are 99.99 per cent spot on.
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